Official Thread Halo: Infinite - Season 5 - Firefight Returns

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I’ve only touched the F2P multiplayer. It’s really good, just wish my skill level was what it used to be at my peak.

Won’t be playing the single player until I play and complete Halo 5 Guardians. I’m about half way through with that.
 
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- Season three delayed until March 2023
- Split-screen co-op has been COMPLETELY cancelled
- Campaign co-op & replay delayed until November
- Forge delayed until November


In our latest dev update, members of the 343 Industries team discuss the studio's priorities, player experience goals, and offer details on what you can expect with #HaloInfinite in the coming months.
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PM Maverick said:



- Season three delayed until March 2023
- Split-screen co-op has been COMPLETELY cancelled
- Campaign co-op & replay delayed until November
- Forge delayed until November



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Hopefully it will be out finally in November, a year from launch 🤞
 
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u2popmofo said:
"Campaign coop will be available soon after launch" = 1 year later?

343 really seems like a poorly managed, directionless mess of a company.
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Agreed. As of now, there is no need for me to go back to Halo Infinite, ever. No campaign DLC still announced. Time for 343 to get a gutting, or give Halo to a more capable team.
 
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Honestly, at this point they should just abandon ship. I've heard rumors that the issue is engine related. They should just start over with a new game using UE5.
 
I gave up on Infinite shortly after I finished the campaign.
343 definitely needs a management shake up from top to bottom. They obviously despite being built specifically for Halo cannot handle the IP. Phil doesn't have the stomach for it it seems but arm chair quarterbacking, I'd reassign 343 to a new IP or something non halo related and let my other studios have a crack at it like iD software or Machine Games. If the Activision acquisition goes through, I'd give Sledgehammer, Treyarch or Infinity Ward a go too.
 
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wshowers said:
I gave up on Infinite shortly after I finished the campaign.
343 definitely needs a management shake up from top to bottom. They obviously despite being built specifically for Halo cannot handle the IP. Phil doesn't have the stomach for it it seems but arm chair quarterbacking, I'd reassign 343 to a new IP or something non halo related and let my other studios have a crack at it like iD software or Machine Games. If the Activision acquisition goes through, I'd give Sledgehammer, Treyarch or Infinity Ward a go too.
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From what their devs used to imply on reddit it was purely a management issue. Phil needs to pay someone big bucks to move over to clean house at their studio
 
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tumorman said:
From what their devs used to imply on reddit it was purely a management issue. Phil needs to pay someone big bucks to move over to clean house at their studio
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Here's the thing. I don't have faith that Phil will make that move unless Nadella himself orders it. I'd go out on a limb and wouldn't be surprised if he was part of the issue as well.
343i isn't a new studio. It's shipped 4 games. Each with their own myriad of problems and complaints. As the saying goes: Once Is Chance, Twice is Coincidence, Third Time Is A Pattern.
343i has shown isn't built to make a Halo game that's on par with any Bungie developed Halo IMO. And that's ok. But for Phil keep 343i, Bonnie Ross, etc on Halo expecting better results every time is well..... insanity.
 
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Here's the thing. I don't have faith that Phil will make that move unless Nadella himself orders it. I'd go out on a limb and wouldn't be surprised if he was part of the issue as well.
343i isn't a new studio. It's shipped 4 games. Each with their own myriad of problems and complaints. As the saying goes: Once Is Chance, Twice is Coincidence, Third Time Is A Pattern.
343i has shown isn't built to make a Halo game that's on par with any Bungie developed Halo IMO. And that's ok. But for Phil keep 343i, Bonnie Ross, etc on Halo expecting better results every time is well..... insanity.
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Halo Infinite is a mess at this point. The campaign obviously had a good amount cut from it, and multiplayer, while good, lacks content and QOL stuff. Halo 4 and 5 were good. Halo 4 had a great story that did much to expand the universe. Unfortunately, most of it was “locked” behind Smartglass implementation. Halo 5’s story wasn’t a high point, but it’s multiplayer was outstanding, responsive, and had a higher skill gap.
 
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Let’s be honest, an openworld single screen co-op would’ve been bad visually. Had it been totally linear like the previous games (maybe not 5 😂) it could’ve worked.
 
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Pureshooter said:
Except Destiny didn’t exactly hit the ground running either. Halo Infinite is bombing, but Destiny’s start isn’t one to emulate.
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Destiny had 13 million players in 3 months from launch which grew to 16 million by 5 months, then 20 million in 8 months, 25 million by end of year 1.

They were doing pretty good as you actually had to pay for the game too whereas Halo is a free to play.

Having said that, anything would be better than this right now. Let's see how November will be with the promised coop.
 
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Destiny had 13 million players in 3 months from launch which grew to 16 million by 5 months, then 20 million in 8 months, 25 million by end of year 1.

They were doing pretty good as you actually had to pay for the game too whereas Halo is a free to play.

Having said that, anything would be better than this right now. Let's see how November will be with the promised coop.
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Those are registered players only, not active, and you could register via the free demo. It’s metacritic was in the mid 70’s, well below Halo Infinite. I played it, it was barren and disjointed at launch.
 
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Those are registered players only, not active, and you could register via the free demo. It’s metacritic was in the mid 70’s, well below Halo Infinite. I played it, it was barren and disjointed at launch.
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Still better support than what 343 has done so far with Infinite.

Also Destiny was something new at the time, people didn't know what the Vault of Glass raid would be like so people were prepping in different ways for something they did not know what to expect, there was excitement , mystery suspense and community was thriving online with people just grinding levels/loot and finding new things every week. Loot cave comes to mind. Once the raid came out, it just took off and never looked back even though it had its ups and downs. Hard to say the same for Infinite right now without official modes for Forge and coop still.
 
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Still better support than what 343 has done so far with Infinite.

Also Destiny was something new at the time, people didn't know what the Vault of Glass raid would be like so people were prepping in different ways for something they did not know what to expect, there was excitement , mystery suspense and community was thriving online with people just grinding levels/loot and finding new things every week. Loot cave comes to mind. Once the raid came out, it just took off and never looked back even though it had its ups and downs. Hard to say the same for Infinite right now without official modes for Forge and coop still.
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Lol, ok.
 
wshowers said:
I gave up on Infinite shortly after I finished the campaign.
343 definitely needs a management shake up from top to bottom. They obviously despite being built specifically for Halo cannot handle the IP. Phil doesn't have the stomach for it it seems but arm chair quarterbacking, I'd reassign 343 to a new IP or something non halo related and let my other studios have a crack at it like iD software or Machine Games. If the Activision acquisition goes through, I'd give Sledgehammer, Treyarch or Infinity Ward a go too.
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The weird thing is they nailed the gameplay. MP feels better than it has in a long time. And SP was great.

It is puzzling because they don't really need to fix the game, just give us... content.

I don't think it is management. It isn't like the vision isn't here. They've reportedly been losing developers left and right. I think they just lack coders to bang out content. The bones for a good game are here. It already is a good game. it isn't like people are asking for major rethinking of the game, we just want more.
 
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The weird thing is they nailed the gameplay. MP feels better than it has in a long time. And SP was great.

It is puzzling because they don't really need to fix the game, just give us... content.

I don't think it is management. It isn't like the vision isn't here. They've reportedly been losing developers left and right. I think they just lack coders to bang out content. The bones for a good game are here. It already is a good game. it isn't like people are asking for major rethinking of the game, we just want more.
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Just give me some gd multiplayer maps. You've got like 100 at your disposal, port them over and be done with it
 
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