I can't confirm. I just read this on the internet, so I don't know how accurate it is.
Official Thread Halo: Infinite - Season 5 - Firefight Returns
- Thread starter karmakid
- Start date
Guy is a bit of a windbag. People should be okay to express their opinion or criticism of a game. I think the issue is that overall a lot of these developers give way too much consideration to the criticism from the player base, especially those trying to monetize their product for their own personal gain. You can’t be so detached that you’re working in a vacuum, but you also can’t be so engaged that you lose focus and intent. Much of the player base have no idea and are not particularly smart, let alone helpful. They become a distraction. Stick to your design objectives and focus on feedback that closely aligns with where you’re trying to go with your product.
They obviously don't give enough consideration to the criticism. You can't expect your fanbase to be happy if you ignore them and make products they don't like. Continuing on with a vision that isn't working and isn't liked is going to get you not very far.
I mean who asked for this to be a GaaS? I doubt anybody did because the vocal masses know GaaS inevitably means crap, or at least worse than before.
How is there anybody at 343i who thought releasing the game with zero player progression was good?
If they weren't expecting backlash then they were deluded and clearly out of touch. It isn't just 343i either. The sheer ignorance from devs today is mind boggling.
The devs aren't saying the community is too toxic, some random Youtuber is making that straw man argument.
No offense to Karmakid, but I never watch any of the user youtube videos he posts.
I usually can’t even make it through their videos if I watch. Waxing on for 15 minutes about something they ultimately know little information about in an effort to sensationalize it, is a waste of time. That’s just it as well, why they may think that way, ultimately they are trying to sensationalize every bit of information to get more views and monetize their content.
I don’t think the devs think the majority are toxic. However, I do think that they often allow the community to become a distraction and lose focus at times. I don’t think there’s really an inherently bad model for most games. You just have to ensure that feedback is not just generally constructive, but constructive to the design goals you’ve decided on for your product. I think is especially true when you are trying to deliver something substantially different to previous iterations.
I don't think it is complex. 343 is short handed, and still needing to push out co-op, forge plus seasonal content.
I don't think there's a feedback problem. 6 month seasons that drag on forever while we wait for major components to come out.
These companies come up with the idea of making a live service game, yet fail to understand the requirements for keeping the content coming.
These things spiral into a hate spiral where the content never keeps up and people just keep getting saltier and saltier.
Interestingly enough, it doesn’t seem like a dev like Rare is struggling as much with something like this. Overall, they keep putting content out for Sea of Thieves and player engagement is pretty good. If I remember correctly, I think they’re about half the size of 343i. Obviously, there’s other factors at play as well, as even the communities are very different and SoT is a brand new IP.
Sea of Thieves went through it at launch too. That game was pretty thin at launch but got better. They fly under the radar a little now that the hype train died down.
343 still needs to meet "Halo Hype". Plus, FPS games are going through this weird lull now where everything is lacking. People are kind of seeking anything to play in the FPS market, which just frustrates people more.
This game will get better eventually. Forge looks really good.
True. Anything is better than Val engagement.
I should probably better vetting tho, but it kinda works cos engagement
The difference is SOT wasn't missing engagement based features. It was barebones, yes, but they had progression system that keep people engaged over time until the content starts to flow. There wasn't all this BS 6 months droughts either.
I’d say it’s more like, you’re in the icu with a drip feed but that feed has its own drip feed, that happens to have regulated timer worse than California water restrictions.
Or like that water scene from rango, honestly it’s the premise of rango
It isn't, though, not really (talking about the ICU drip. Don't know the Rango reference.) Halo simply has no content drops. SOT, if I remember correctly, dropped content every month through that first year, which included extra progression for continued engagement.
343 even has trouble getting cosmetics into the pay store... it is kind of insane.
It reminds me of Destiny and how their terrible engine stops them from making the content needed.
HALO INFINITE DROP POD – AUGUST 9, 2022
Published: August 9, 2022
EAGLESTRIKE’S Night Wisp visor on a Mark V helmet.
Full list of updated Mark VII helmet attachments
Warmaster helmet attachment on Firefall helmet. RAKSHASA’s Sapphire Front visor on a Mark VII helmet.
Note: This placeholder text is not indicative of future Challenges.
Developer Notes
Developer Notes
WARTHOG
The Warthog can now be knocked around more easily by players using weapons such as the M41 SPNKR or the Repulsor Equipment.
Developer Notes
Published: August 9, 2022
NEW FEATURES
Several quality-of-life improvements and new features have been added to Halo Infinite in this update. Visit the "August Drop Pod Preview" blog to learn more about these features and other improvements coming to Halo Infinite in the future.CROSS-CORE VISORS
All visors are now compatible with all Armor Cores. This change applies to all previously released visors and all visors that will be released moving forward.
EAGLESTRIKE’S Night Wisp visor on a Mark V helmet.
IMPROVED MARK VII HELMET ATTACHMENT COMPATIBILITY
Several Mark VII helmet attachments are now compatible with more Mark VII helmets. If you have already unlocked an updated helmet attachment, no action is needed for it to be available with additional helmets.Full list of updated Mark VII helmet attachments
Warmaster helmet attachment on Firefall helmet. RAKSHASA’s Sapphire Front visor on a Mark VII helmet.
CHALLENGES ARE NOW VISIBLE ON THE PAUSE MENU
Active Challenges will now be listed on the Pause menu during multiplayer matches; however, Challenge progress is not visible during a match. Challenge progress will be added to this feature in a future update.
Note: This placeholder text is not indicative of future Challenges.
RESOLVED ISSUES
The following changes were made in the August 9, 2022 Drop Pod.MULTIPLAYER
- The volume of a nearby player's shield recharging has been lowered, especially when the recharging player is out of the line of sight.
- Choppers will no longer continue boosting after being disabled by a Dynamo Grenade's EMP effect.
- The M41 SPNKR's damage radius has been improved and now more consistently damages enemies.
- A fully charged shot from the Plasma Pistol will now correctly deplete all Shields, including active Overshields.
- Mark Assists and medals related to the Mark system will now appear correctly when the Superintendent AI is equipped.
- Players can no longer mark enemies who are obscured behind waist high cover.
- Headshots more consistently register on enemies without shields when using precision weapons such as the Mk50 Sidekick or the Stalker Rifle.
- In Custom Games, King of the Hill now goes to Overtime when both teams have the same score as time runs out.
- In Free-For-All King of the Hill matches, the mini scoreboard near the bottom of the screen no longer shows unused meters and the full scoreboard shows the following stats:
- Points
- Score
- Kills
- Deaths
- In Custom Games, Attrition rounds now consistently end when a team is fully eliminated.
- While spectating a player in Observer Mode on PC, player weapons will no longer shake when the camera moves up or down.
- Resolved an issue where dropped Equipment could not be picked up near the lower light bridge on Catalyst.
- Observers will no longer be counted as a member of the enemy team in Attrition Custom Games.
- The outline of the Danger Zone's final circle will no longer appear early in Last Spartan Standing Custom Games.
- Dropped weapons will no longer accumulate during Tactical Slayer matches.
MENUS
- The fourth Challenge slot will now always be enabled when a Premium Battle Pass is equipped.
- Visor colors will now appear correctly when using the following helmet and attachment combinations:
- Cambion helmet with the UA/Februus attachment
- AKIS II-GRD helmet with the TAS/Lantifrid attachment
- Land Grab and Last Spartan Standing now have unique Game Mode icons in various menus.
- In the Ranked Arena playlist menu, changing the Ranked Queue type now correctly updates the Estimated Wait tooltip.
- Error messages now consistently appear in matchmaking playlist menus.
BALANCE CHANGES
GRAPPLESHOT
To maintain multiplayer balance, players will no longer be able to exit a vehicle to cancel an enemy's Grapplejack.Developer Notes
LIGHT AND MEDIUM VEHICLES
Non-tank vehicles, such as the Ghost or Warthog, are now more resistant to small arms fire. All of these changes apply to Multiplayer and a few apply to Campaign as well. See the Developer Notes for a full breakdown of the changes in each mode.Developer Notes
WARTHOG
The Warthog can now be knocked around more easily by players using weapons such as the M41 SPNKR or the Repulsor Equipment.
Developer Notes
KNOWN ISSUES
With this update, the team has added one new issue to our Known Issues list. Visit the Known Issues & Workarounds section for more information.- In Last Spartan Standing Custom Games, bots do not level up after gaining enough score to improve their loadout.
- The Xbox app or Microsoft Store app version of Halo Infinite may download extra data upon launching the game.
DOWNLOAD SIZE
- Update only (all platforms): approximately 2.0 GB or less.
That grappleshot maneuver getting nerfed sucksHALO INFINITE DROP POD – AUGUST 9, 2022
Published: August 9, 2022
NEW FEATURES
Several quality-of-life improvements and new features have been added to Halo Infinite in this update. Visit the "August Drop Pod Preview" blog to learn more about these features and other improvements coming to Halo Infinite in the future.
CROSS-CORE VISORS
All visors are now compatible with all Armor Cores. This change applies to all previously released visors and all visors that will be released moving forward.
EAGLESTRIKE’S Night Wisp visor on a Mark V helmet.
IMPROVED MARK VII HELMET ATTACHMENT COMPATIBILITY
Several Mark VII helmet attachments are now compatible with more Mark VII helmets. If you have already unlocked an updated helmet attachment, no action is needed for it to be available with additional helmets.
Full list of updated Mark VII helmet attachments
Warmaster helmet attachment on Firefall helmet. RAKSHASA’s Sapphire Front visor on a Mark VII helmet.
CHALLENGES ARE NOW VISIBLE ON THE PAUSE MENU
Active Challenges will now be listed on the Pause menu during multiplayer matches; however, Challenge progress is not visible during a match. Challenge progress will be added to this feature in a future update.
Note: This placeholder text is not indicative of future Challenges.
RESOLVED ISSUES
The following changes were made in the August 9, 2022 Drop Pod.
MULTIPLAYER
- The volume of a nearby player's shield recharging has been lowered, especially when the recharging player is out of the line of sight.
- Choppers will no longer continue boosting after being disabled by a Dynamo Grenade's EMP effect.
- The M41 SPNKR's damage radius has been improved and now more consistently damages enemies.
- A fully charged shot from the Plasma Pistol will now correctly deplete all Shields, including active Overshields.
- Mark Assists and medals related to the Mark system will now appear correctly when the Superintendent AI is equipped.
- Players can no longer mark enemies who are obscured behind waist high cover.
- Headshots more consistently register on enemies without shields when using precision weapons such as the Mk50 Sidekick or the Stalker Rifle.
- In Custom Games, King of the Hill now goes to Overtime when both teams have the same score as time runs out.
- In Free-For-All King of the Hill matches, the mini scoreboard near the bottom of the screen no longer shows unused meters and the full scoreboard shows the following stats:
- Points
- Score
- Kills
- Deaths
- In Custom Games, Attrition rounds now consistently end when a team is fully eliminated.
- While spectating a player in Observer Mode on PC, player weapons will no longer shake when the camera moves up or down.
- Resolved an issue where dropped Equipment could not be picked up near the lower light bridge on Catalyst.
- Observers will no longer be counted as a member of the enemy team in Attrition Custom Games.
- The outline of the Danger Zone's final circle will no longer appear early in Last Spartan Standing Custom Games.
- Dropped weapons will no longer accumulate during Tactical Slayer matches.
MENUS
- The fourth Challenge slot will now always be enabled when a Premium Battle Pass is equipped.
- Visor colors will now appear correctly when using the following helmet and attachment combinations:
- Cambion helmet with the UA/Februus attachment
- AKIS II-GRD helmet with the TAS/Lantifrid attachment
- Land Grab and Last Spartan Standing now have unique Game Mode icons in various menus.
- In the Ranked Arena playlist menu, changing the Ranked Queue type now correctly updates the Estimated Wait tooltip.
- Error messages now consistently appear in matchmaking playlist menus.
BALANCE CHANGES
GRAPPLESHOT
To maintain multiplayer balance, players will no longer be able to exit a vehicle to cancel an enemy's Grapplejack.
Developer Notes
LIGHT AND MEDIUM VEHICLES
Non-tank vehicles, such as the Ghost or Warthog, are now more resistant to small arms fire. All of these changes apply to Multiplayer and a few apply to Campaign as well. See the Developer Notes for a full breakdown of the changes in each mode.
Developer Notes
WARTHOG
The Warthog can now be knocked around more easily by players using weapons such as the M41 SPNKR or the Repulsor Equipment.
Developer Notes
KNOWN ISSUES
With this update, the team has added one new issue to our Known Issues list. Visit the Known Issues & Workarounds section for more information.
- In Last Spartan Standing Custom Games, bots do not level up after gaining enough score to improve their loadout.
- The Xbox app or Microsoft Store app version of Halo Infinite may download extra data upon launching the game.
DOWNLOAD SIZE
- Update only (all platforms): approximately 2.0 GB or less.
