Help me choose my new TV please?

I want the 65 inch R series but dunno how much or how soon it will be available.
Might end up with the 70 inch P series...which doesn't have a date either but is expected soon.
 
Do both R series models have that soundbar? def don't need that, I have a nice 5.1 setup.
 
Are there any decent Chinese TVs?
GF's dad wants his first HDTV, I think top of the line, and hi tech features would be wasted on him. I just want big and cheap, but not garbage.
 
Are there any decent Chinese TVs?
GF's dad wants his first HDTV, I think top of the line, and hi tech features would be wasted on him. I just want big and cheap, but not garbage.

Vizios new lines coming out actually look good, is LG Chinese? They are pretty good as well.
 
Yeah, Korean.
There's a ton of brands here, like TCL, making huge screen, 4K, 3D smart TVs that look awesome brand new in the stores, but I don't know about reliability and real life performance.
 
Yeah, Korean.
There's a ton of brands here, like TCL, making huge screen, 4K, 3D smart TVs that look awesome brand new in the stores, but I don't know about reliability and real life performance.

Yeah best you can do is look up reviews before buying a TV, a TV may look great but only last a year. If they have even the low end Panasonic plasmas you can't go wrong with those.
 
Nothing better than the Panasonic VT or ZT Plasmas besides OLEDs but those are way to expensive.
I was keeping an eye on the prices of these sets, and up until last week they were pretty low. Saturday I found out they were on sale at Panasonic's site, so I got up early on Sunday to buy it. With the sale and being a member of Club Panasonic, the total for a ZT60 was under 2k! But by Sunday morning they were totally sold out. Still banging my head against the wall.
Also, the VT and ZT prices have gone up over 1000 dollars in the last week on Amazon, so if anyone is looking into either of these sets, you better hurry up. I managed to still get a good deal on a ZT, and it'll be here in a week or so.
I looked at 4k TVs, but it's still too early, considering the content isn't really there. Also, a good article here:

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57610862-221/four-4k-tv-facts-you-must-know/
After a couple weeks of sleeves-rolled-up, dark-room, side-by-side testing -- peppered with wrangling 4K sources, juggling newfangled gear, and chatting up industry colleagues -- I've finally been able to publish a couple of reviews of name-brand 4K TVs.

These two expensive 65-inch 4K TVs, the Samsung UN65F9000 and the Panasonic TC-L65WT600, join the 50-inch Seiki SE50UY04 I reviewed back in May.

My full write-ups of all three total about 15,000 words, made up of 86,000 characters. That's 616 maxed-out tweets.

Too long; didn't read? Here's the abbreviated version.

With video on a TV, the difference between 4K/UHD and 1080p/HD resolution is really hard to see. Many of the words in those reviews were written on a laptop in my lab at a theatrically close seating distance, comparing a 65-inch 1080p and a 65-inch 4K TV. Despite all the extra pixels I knew made up the 4K TV's screen, most of the time I didn't see any difference at all, especially with HD TV shows and Blu-rays. The differences in detail I did see were limited to the very best 4K demo material. Larger TVs or closer seating distances make that difference more visible, as do computer graphics, animation, and games, but even then it's not drastic.

Don't expect the kind of improvement afforded by higher computer monitor, tablet, and phone screen resolutions, like Apple's Retina Display. That analogy is largely irrelevant to TVs because you watch TVs from across the room, not inches from your face.

If you want the best picture quality in an LCD next year, you may have to buy a 4K TV anyway. The high-end 4K TVs I tested deliver very good picture quality -- and for these prices, they'd better. All 4K flat-panel TVs on the market use LCD panels illuminated by LEDs, and employ some of the best picture-enhancing features available to the breed.

Local dimming of LED backlights is a prime example, and it usually makes every LCD TV perform better. It's easy to imagine a near future where local dimming -- or another effective picture quality enhancement that has nothing to do with resolution -- is only offered on the more expensive TVs in a manufacturer's lineup. You know, the ones that also happen to have 4K resolution. In fact, that's exactly what happened with 3D and Smart TV; you typically have to get these features if you want premium picture quality.

Speaking of picture quality, none of the LED LCDs I've tested in the last few years, 4K or otherwise, can beat the best plasmas, let alone OLED. But plasma's future is questionable at best, and OLED TVs will likely remain mega expensive for the next few years.

Despite the lack of content, 4K TVs will get inexpensive and popular very quickly. LCD TVs are easy to manufacture at 4K resolution, so mainstream-level prices will arrive very soon. Panasonic predicts 40 percent of 60-inch-plus TVs sold in 2016 will be 4K. DisplaySearch predicts that if LCD panel makers achieve their target of shipping over 30 million 4K TVs in 2014, "4K will quickly become the most adopted TV feature." Affordable 4K TVs are booming in China, and names like Seiki and TCL are entering the US market with cheaper 4K TVs, currently around $1,000 for 50 inches, putting further downward pressure on prices.

4K TVs won't make 1080p TVs obsolete anytime soon. A few 4K sources, primarily YouTube videos, are available now. More are likely coming next year in the form of Netflix streams, the first 4K Blu-rays, and non-proprietary video download/streaming services. But it will still take many, many years for TV broadcasters and producers to replace all their HD equipment with 4K cameras and gear. And when they do, there's no guarantee those broadcasts actually look better than their HD equivalents. Even today, HD channels vary widely in quality, mainly because of bandwidth constraints, not resolution differences.

In the meantime, a standard 1080p TV bought in the next few years will remain perfectly viable for as long as you own it. Sure, it might not be able to play the most cutting-edge 4K content at 4K resolution, but you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyway.
 
I was keeping an eye on the prices of these sets, and up until last week they were pretty low. Saturday I found out they were on sale at Panasonic's site, so I got up early on Sunday to buy it. With the sale and being a member of Club Panasonic, the total for a ZT60 was under 2k! But by Sunday morning they were totally sold out. Still banging my head against the wall.
Also, the VT and ZT prices have gone up over 1000 dollars in the last week on Amazon, so if anyone is looking into either of these sets, you better hurry up. I managed to still get a good deal on a ZT, and it'll be here in a week or so.
I looked at 4k TVs, but it's still too early, considering the content isn't really there. Also, a good article here:

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57610862-221/four-4k-tv-facts-you-must-know/

I heard the 65" VT60 was only $2000 at Best Buy last week, thats an awesome deal too. I just bought my 55" VT50 last year or I would have bought that.
 
I heard the 65" VT60 was only $2000 at Best Buy last week, thats an awesome deal too. I just bought my 55" VT50 last year or I would have bought that.
I went to 3 different BBs, and all of them were sold out of all Panny plasmas....even the display models were gone!

Damn Super Bowl.
 
I went to 3 different BBs, and all of them were sold out of all Panny plasmas....even the display models were gone!

Damn Super Bowl.

Damn, I know people on AVS are hoarding them. I seen some poster ordered 4 VT60s last week. Its like the Pioneer Kuros all over.
 
Damn, I know people on AVS are hoarding them. I seen some poster ordered 4 VT60s last week. Its like the Pioneer Kuros all over.
Wow, that would explain the sudden disappearances. Did the Kuro appreciate in value? I mean do you think people are planning on selling the VTs/ZTs later?
 
Wow, that would explain the sudden disappearances. Did the Kuro appreciate in value? I mean do you think people are planning on selling the VTs/ZTs later?

Either that or they just want back ups, yeah Pioneers were going for high prices after they were discontinued. I think Pauls TVs are wiped out of VT60s. If you can get one for a reasonable price I would go for it.