Yeah, I mean, they've got to do something since they can't get smartphone manufacturers to include cameras.
I always feel like someone is watching me... WoW and Xbox Live snooping (Updated)
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Yeah, I mean, they've got to do something since they can't get smartphone manufacturers to include cameras.
Yeah, I mean, they've got to do something since they can't get smartphone manufacturers to include cameras.
Can ur Smartphone monitor ur heartbeat or biometric or whatever they call it? and do you spend 4-5 hours in a row looking @ ur smartphone?
just saying. I don't have anything to hide but i also value my privacy. In about 5-10 years people won't even be able to fart without askin for permisson.
Can ur Smartphone monitor ur heartbeat or biometric or whatever they call it? and do you spend 4-5 hours in a row looking @ ur smartphone?
Then make sure you configure your home network so that you can't send the data out, boom, problem solved. The actual possibility of Kinect being used to stream video/audio of your premises without permission is effectively nil - there are a metric buttload of privacy freaks and any attempt to do that would be quickly discovered and the penalties that would entail would be massive. All of these NSA things are where they're accessing data that users are already pushing through to the Internet willingly - thinks like chat / Skype / online games / etc.
I spend more time with my smartphone in front of me on any given day than my console. Those front facing cameras are perfectly configured to capture you while viewing your phone.Can ur Smartphone monitor ur heartbeat or biometric or whatever they call it? and do you spend 4-5 hours in a row looking @ ur smartphone?
People make Kinect out to be the boogie man in all this for no reason.
Yes, what the NSA is doing is scary, but Kinect isn't any worse than any other device you own. Actually, your smartphone is probably 10 times worse and less secure (you know how easy it is to hack someone's phone?)
MS is also looking to encrypt all data by 2014 (not sure if that includes Live) to protect our privacy.
http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-confirms-encryption-across-cloud-services-7000023964/
Yes, what the NSA is doing is scary, but Kinect isn't any worse than any other device you own. Actually, your smartphone is probably 10 times worse and less secure (you know how easy it is to hack someone's phone?)
MS is also looking to encrypt all data by 2014 (not sure if that includes Live) to protect our privacy.
http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-confirms-encryption-across-cloud-services-7000023964/
U can certainly call me paranoid but i sure don't trust any gouvernment on this planet earth.
Maybe too addicted to social media m8
U can certainly call me paranoid but i sure don't trust any gouvernment on this planet earth.
Maybe too addicted to social media m8
Nope. Client Services and away from desk regularly. I spend less than 20 minutes a day on social media.
Cameras on phones can't spy on us like Kinect can. Just sayin'.Yeah, I mean, they've got to do something since they can't get smartphone manufacturers to include cameras.
On the other hand, unless you never connect your phone to anything other than your home WiFi, you have far less control over what data it's able to send out (since you can't use the router as another line of defense against data going out).
That is all interesting, but I still would like to know how cameras on phones can spy on us like Kinect can.
How *can* it? I mean, it's a video camera, the phones on a cell phone are video cameras. If you use them and allow anything to go to the Internet, that can of course be intercepted, but there's simply no reason outside of tinfoil hat territory to think that a company will risk the exorbitant punitive fines the EU would drop to try to actually force the camera to record you without permission and upload that without permission, especially since the people who are truly that concerned about their privacy are exactly the ones who would look for and catch this stuff.
Now, anything that's actually on the Internet (e.g., Skype) is a different story and a legitimate concern because you're uploading information and once it leaves your network, it's out of your control. But that's a simple case of "don't transmit anything and they can't intercept anything."
So cameras on phones are like Kinect because they are both cameras that connect to the internet? That's not a real explanation. You forgot to mention how phones are in our pockets 90% of the time, 2% held to our ear for phone calls, and 8% doing nothing but looking at our face while we text. You also didn't mention anything about the extensive amount of data each individual phone would have to send every month and bring mobile networks to their knees nor did you mention the battery life of these phones lasting for under two hours of use nor the extensive background multitasking required for this and which most modern phones would still completely struggle with. So please give a real answer as to how phone cameras are comparable to Kinect.
For me I'm glad the government keeps getting bigger, more powerful and less accountable. I mean what could go wrong?
Worst case scenario, we all have to speak Mandarin and get a job at our local Foxconn.
Do Some research boys and a bit less gaming. Every time a major event happens in the USA like the Boston bombings and Sandy Hook (RIP) new laws and acts are being signed to futher militarise you're country and more control of the population like the NDAA and Gun Ban law being pushed.
U know guns over there discribed in ur second amendment were not meant to shoot one another but like a last line of defense against a Tyranical gouvernment and let me tell you it's looking more and more like a police state. Ok end rant and BTW if i stop posting the next few days you know they got me
U know guns over there discribed in ur second amendment were not meant to shoot one another but like a last line of defense against a Tyranical gouvernment and let me tell you it's looking more and more like a police state. Ok end rant and BTW if i stop posting the next few days you know they got me
Mine is almost never in my pocket or on my ear - mostly on a shelf, but I don't use phones much at all.
But you win that argument. It's ridiculous to think that they'll remotely activate your phone and make it stream data. Now will you concede that it's equally ridiculous to think that MS and/or the NSA will activate a device on your private network and force it to stream data you're not sending to the Internet, with privacy advocates everywhere on the lookout for just this very thing?
we could all go live on a farm just like the Amish and live technology free, thus not having to worry about it.
Thy government hath installed a gnome with a sketchpad inside thy butter churn!
I think you just conveniently selectively ignored the listed reasons for why it is ridiculous for phones to stream video. Why?
Phones can't offer the same recording capabilities as Kinect, why is anyone even entertaining the idea that it could?
The most simple and forward reason is because your mobile/cell phone uses a battery, resources like camera drain that mofo and fast. Last time I checked, no smart phone can see you in the dark or monitor your heart rate.
#Kinectbenefits101
The most simple and forward reason is because your mobile/cell phone uses a battery, resources like camera drain that mofo and fast. Last time I checked, no smart phone can see you in the dark or monitor your heart rate.
#Kinectbenefits101
Kinect can be disabled completely. Cell phones cannot unless battery is completely removed. Cell phones are always with you and can pinpoint where you are at any point in time and in real time. Kinect stays at home. Kinect runs on a closed architecture and everything has to go through Microsoft . Cell phones can be compromised without going through a cell phone service provider.
Cell phones offer far more ways to "snoop" than Kinect. They're not comparable.
Disabled, I'd say unplugged is a better term.
People cover their cameras, I have seen this on phones before.
Null, these guys know where we live, heck we provide the info ourselves. What's that matter and how does that even compare the cameras at all?
Again, how does this compare what these cameras are capable of?
Phone sits in pants pocket or desk, sometimes facing the ceiling at best, other times its in a persons jacket for hours on end whilst person works.
Kinect has a better camera with more ability, how this is still argued is strange.
Kinect can be completely disabled under settings. Cell phones cannot. Who's only taking about cameras? That's not the only way to snoop on someone. Cell phones can transmit sound even when off. You cannot, under any circumstances turn off gps fully unless you hack your phone. Kinect is a non-factor for privacy invasion compared to cell phones. There's no comparison.
Are you with your cell phone more or kinect? That maybe the determining factor. Cell phone all day wherever you go whoever you talk to, pictures... kinect 1-2 hrs in the basement a day(for me anyway). If you needed to gather info from a person what would be the most efficient way?Sorry man, I disagree.
Can we agree to disagree?
Seriously, there are more PC's out there with cameras with the user in complete focus and tied to high speed internet than all Kinects and cell phones put together. And not to mention that Kinect is behind a pay service as opposed to big open internet. Yet again Kinect comes under scrutiny? Are people really this stupid?
I'm not the best example to use because my cell phone will stay in one place for hours on end, I don't answer calls when working and I only use it for calls.
I don't use Kinect at all, sits in its box with the plastic sitting pretty.
Hence why I personally am not the best example.
Sorry man, I disagree.
Can we agree to disagree?
I agree, Kinect is looking at times when ur most relaxt, laid back and when you're really being yourself in the confort of the livingroom and plus the camera is a few feet away thus having a wider range filming the whole body and even the people around you. Scenario 1: NSA or whoever is listening in via ur smartphone, the can hear you are with about 4 people chatting about whatever but can't really see who is exactly talking or saying what .... Scenario 2: Now Kinect is turned on and can really monitor who is saying what, down to heartbeat and every body gesture even lenght and probably body weight?! Used in this context Kinect is imho the far better spy agent.
lol so because Kinect is behind a pay service means the autorities can't misuse it?! BTW you buy the Xbox because 1: hardcore gamer and longtime supporter of MS or 2: People really curious to see what the Kinect can do and probably heard it from friends or family so to enjoy it you have to buy the XBL anyway to use most of it's features. The way XBL is setup nowdays 80% plus of it's users will have Gold PERIOD. Are people really that naive nowdays?!
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