new Elder Scroll Online video gameplay.

I really want this but that second subscription is kind of a turn off... Okay it's a huge turn off.
 
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Then you guys have no clue about mmo.

FFXIV have a sub and going very well with 2.1 subscribers and loves it. So why can't this be the same?
 
I don't think it will bomb. But the town ain't big enough for two multi-million subscriber MMOs, and WoW is still around. I think the game will sell 2 million units and after two months the sub base will be in the 500k to 750k range. Not bad at all. Will turn a profit. The game itself is really solid in my opinion, with major improvements made between the two betas I played.
 
Quick question, how many months does the retail version get you? If it's $15 bucks a month, customers should be getting around 3-4 months with their initial purcahse. I do think it has some potential and could be a sleep hit on the consoles. It'll fill a RPG void until other games come.
 
It looks interesting, but I'm still not sure it's for me. I'm such a huge fan of the Elder Scrolls and its lore, but I'm not too keen on being forced to work with other players and not being able to just do whatever I want like in all the other Elder Scrolls games.

We'll see.
 
Video does make it look like a lot of fun to me. Problem for me is, I just don't know if I can justify $15 a month on the game. Sure the game might (and probably is) be worth it, but if I pay a subscription I damn well better be getting the most out of the game. I often have limited gaming time so this is a problem for me.
 
I don't like paying for subscriptions for games, no matter the content. There are too many games to play for me to pay a monthly fee to play 1. Others prefer to invest time and money into playing a subscription based game, and that's fine. I just hope we'll see another Elder Scrolls single-player in a few more years.
 
Quick question, how many months does the retail version get you? If it's $15 bucks a month, customers should be getting around 3-4 months with their initial purcahse. I do think it has some potential and could be a sleep hit on the consoles. It'll fill a RPG void until other games come.

The first month (30 days) is free, after that you start forking over the $15 a month. That's if it follows past MMO monthly subscription fees.
 
I wish a game would split servers and set a few up as free to play and a few as subscription only. I know it's largely impossible for a bunch of reasons, but it would be an interesting experiment to see how many people flock to each type, how long they stay, which makes more money in the short/long term etc. The pay to play MMO's I've been in have had better communities that free to play - but that could just be correlation.
 
Game is just OK. I couldn't help feeling like I wished it was a single player ES game when I was playing it. Nothing about the MMOness of the game is compelling, new, or really enjoyable at all.

The first month (30 days) is free, after that you start forking over the $15 a month. That's if it follows past MMO monthly subscription fees.

Or you can wait 6 months when it goes F2P. This game has no shot of succeeding with a subscription model imo.
 
Game is just OK. I couldn't help feeling like I wished it was a single player ES game when I was playing it. Nothing about the MMOness of the game is compelling, new, or really enjoyable at all.



Or you can wait 6 months when it goes F2P. This game has no shot of succeeding with a subscription model imo.



Why not? WoW isn't the only game with a successful subscription model.
 
The first month (30 days) is free, after that you start forking over the $15 a month. That's if it follows past MMO monthly subscription fees.
Why not? WoW isn't the only game with a successful subscription model.
Even WoW is free up to level 20. Bethesda is expecting people to pay full price for the game and then $15 dollars a month? That's just cray imo. It is doing nothing new with the MMO genre to really grab much of a market-share there and I don't think the MMOness of the game is going to resonate well long term with ES fans.
 
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I refuse to pay $15 a month for one game on top of the initial price.
 
I wish a game would split servers and set a few up as free to play and a few as subscription only. I know it's largely impossible for a bunch of reasons, but it would be an interesting experiment to see how many people flock to each type, how long they stay, which makes more money in the short/long term etc. The pay to play MMO's I've been in have had better communities that free to play - but that could just be correlation.
I think this could be done with a lot of success. F2P just wouldn't have as big of a world, less skills, etc.
 
$60 for the game and $15 a month PLUS $50-$60 a year(XBL/PS+) = sucker dough



But paying 60 bucks a year to play online is not sucker dough? We could spin any amount to be "sucker dough". I could say paying 60 bucks a year to play CoD when I already paid 60 for the game and then another 50-60 for map packs is sucker dough, yet people do it.

"if" this is the kind of game people like and spend time playing it, in the end, 15 bucks is nothing. It's 2 meals at Wendy's for a meal consumed within minutes. it's 2 movie tickets, for movies that end within 2.5 hours. It could also mean over 20 hours of gameplay per month. Pretty cheap form of entertainment.
 
But paying 60 bucks a year to play online is not sucker dough? We could spin any amount to be "sucker dough". I could say paying 60 bucks a year to play CoD when I already paid 60 for the game and then another 50-60 for map packs is sucker dough, yet people do it.

"if" this is the kind of game people like and spend time playing it, in the end, 15 bucks is nothing. It's 2 meals at Wendy's for a meal consumed within minutes. it's 2 movie tickets, for movies that end within 2.5 hours. It could also mean over 20 hours of gameplay per month. Pretty cheap form of entertainment.

Not agreeing nope
 
Even WoW is free up to level 20. Bethesda is expecting people to pay full price for the game and then $15 dollars a month? That's just cray imo. It is doing nothing new with the MMO genre to really grab much of a market-share there and I don't think the MMOness of the game is going to resonate well long term with ES fans.



But it wasn't free initially to lvl 20, and lvl 20 is quick to get to....that's pretty much a demo.
 
Not agreeing nope



You don't have to. Not everyone finds value in the same thing. PC gamers could laugh at console gamers for spending 60 a year just to play online, when they get it for free. PC gamers could laugh all they want, but if the console gamer finds value in it, then it really doesn't matter.
 
Well this year I'm not going to go game crazy so I think Titanfall and Elder Scrolls Online will do. I really want Final Fantasy XIV but Square is to stupid which they are trying to have all other infected servers and platforms together. EA is a prime example of why MS wasn't to crazy with EA servers.
 
The first month (30 days) is free, after that you start forking over the $15 a month. That's if it follows past MMO monthly subscription fees.
Only 30 days? They're charging a full $60 for this? Man, you'd think we'd be getting at least two months out of the gate.
 
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I played WoW and a few other MMO's for years, so paying $15 a month isn't all that bad. As someone pointed out, I wasn't paying for Live or PS+ on top of my monthly either. Obscene Jester has a good point, wait it out and maybe the game will go F2P. The only problem with F2P is missing out on some content, the good content.