Nintendo Rumored to be Readying 'Fusion' Home & Handheld Consoles
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They are in a tough spot. Can't alienate the early adopters and drop the Wii U, but can't carry them on their back and develop multi million dollar titles for a 3.6 million console user base. What to do?
I think maybe give the early adopters some sweet games, but end the console early? Still a risky move.
I think maybe give the early adopters some sweet games, but end the console early? Still a risky move.
Interesting, but I doubt we'd see this sort of thing for a little while still. They wouldn't want to alienate consumers who just got a Wii U with something that fast. That would hurt their brand image.
Yeah, it was only a matter of time until Nintendo started to work on a new set of consoles. The only thing that changes is how quickly they want to pump them out.
This is the first time, other than Sega, that we've seen a company really fall on it's face in some time. Sony struggled initially with the PS3 pricing and Microsoft alienated the fan base with the 360 hardware problems, but this is really bad. Nintendo seems too unsure of themselves right now. The Wii U has been out for only a little over a year and there's talks of just abandoning the system? Just wow.
Nintendo is in a tough spot, yeah. Do you cater to the ones who bought a Wii U or do you alienate them in an effort to regain a bigger share of the market? To be honest, I don't think the market is even there for Nintendo. The Wii was a phenomenon that really was lightning in a bottle. Aside from the Wii, Nintendo has been struggling with home consoles since the competition has opened up back at the end of the Nintendo 64 days.
Honestly, Nintendo might be destined to make a mistake here, regardless of the route they choose to go.
This is the first time, other than Sega, that we've seen a company really fall on it's face in some time. Sony struggled initially with the PS3 pricing and Microsoft alienated the fan base with the 360 hardware problems, but this is really bad. Nintendo seems too unsure of themselves right now. The Wii U has been out for only a little over a year and there's talks of just abandoning the system? Just wow.
Nintendo is in a tough spot, yeah. Do you cater to the ones who bought a Wii U or do you alienate them in an effort to regain a bigger share of the market? To be honest, I don't think the market is even there for Nintendo. The Wii was a phenomenon that really was lightning in a bottle. Aside from the Wii, Nintendo has been struggling with home consoles since the competition has opened up back at the end of the Nintendo 64 days.
Honestly, Nintendo might be destined to make a mistake here, regardless of the route they choose to go.
To think,
New Super Mario Bros. U
New Super Luigi U
ZombiU
Wonderful 101
Pikmin 3
Wind Waker HD
Super Mario 3D World
And with Bayonetta 2, Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros., and Zelda Wii U coming, we should be rather happy with that lineup. However, it's no coincidence that these games are all/will be published by Nintendo (aside from ZombiU, I think).
New Super Mario Bros. U
New Super Luigi U
ZombiU
Wonderful 101
Pikmin 3
Wind Waker HD
Super Mario 3D World
And with Bayonetta 2, Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros., and Zelda Wii U coming, we should be rather happy with that lineup. However, it's no coincidence that these games are all/will be published by Nintendo (aside from ZombiU, I think).
Wii U just launched a year ago and they are already designing the next console? Wow.
I don't see this coming for at least another 3-4 years and specs could change from now till then.
I don't see this coming for at least another 3-4 years and specs could change from now till then.
It's pretty normal to be starting work on a new console as soon as one launches. But readying it for launch, that's another thing.
Who knows how truthful these specs are, but whatever Nintendo has up its sleeves won;t be out for ages. Assuming X1 and PS4 last about 7-8 years like 360/PS3, their next next gen consoles won't hit until about 2020.
As Mango said, I see Nintendo possibly doing something in the midway point in hopes it attracts gamers tiring of X1/PS4. However, with those specs are they that much better over X1/PS4? People got to remember is that Nintendo versions often get gimped. So no matter how good the specs, third party games often get a notched down version compared to its potential.
Unless Nintendo is willing to live of 3DS sales, I don't see Nintendo trying to last in consoles with Wii U for 7 more years.
As Mango said, I see Nintendo possibly doing something in the midway point in hopes it attracts gamers tiring of X1/PS4. However, with those specs are they that much better over X1/PS4? People got to remember is that Nintendo versions often get gimped. So no matter how good the specs, third party games often get a notched down version compared to its potential.
Unless Nintendo is willing to live of 3DS sales, I don't see Nintendo trying to last in consoles with Wii U for 7 more years.
A 4.5Tflop GPU
Dualing CPU's
DDR4
SSD
HVD
I'd buy it if they were crazy enough to release that at console pedestrian prices.
This is fake though, 3DS is doing great and it wouldn't make any sense to kill that off.
Just my opinion, but I don't think Nintendo would have any of the developer issues they have currently if they didn't alienate developers with old tech when it was blatantly obvious that devs were shooting for hardware in the PS4/Xbone range. Hell, Nintendo wouldn't be struggling with "HD-gen"-woes, that everyone else in the industry figured out 8 years ago if they weren't so stubborn.
Nintendo shot themselves in their pinky-toe.
And blew off their foot in the process!
I agree they set this upon themselves going with the withered tech approach again. Hopefully developers don't get gun shy of Nintendo, gamers though, I think are more forgiving...
I could see Nintendo releasing an app of some kind, not sure about a game, and if it was a game, it'd be a cheap one that came with said app, but would be available on the 3DS as well.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...-after-wii-u-flop.html?cmpid=otbrn.tech.story
That's never good news.
Three years from now the XB1/PS4 war will be at its boiling point and I really doubt anyone will want to hear of a new console so soon.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...-fire-after-failing-to-meet-wii-u-pledge.html
That's never good news.
Three years from now the XB1/PS4 war will be at its boiling point and I really doubt anyone will want to hear of a new console so soon.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...-fire-after-failing-to-meet-wii-u-pledge.html
Just keep putting out the top notch first party games like Super Mario 3D World, New Super Luigi U, and Pikmin 3. Same deal every gen. I'm convinced people wouldn't support Nintendo even if they had the most powerful console on the market. There seems to be some pride thing amongst alpha males these days that if they're caught playing a game with "cartoon" graphics they'll be thought less of.
Gone are the days of just playing games and having fun i guess. That's what Nintendo is about and has always been about. They don't take a risk on the hardware so they'll never really be in trouble no matter how bad a console tanks and after the success of the Wii they bought themselves a couple free passes.
Simply releasing another console to match the specs of PS4 and Xbox One isn't going to sell consoles. They still need good first party games, they need a reputable online service, and they still need a lot of third party support. They need to invest in the western market and stop living in a bubble.
Either that, or they need to go third party. Either way, I have a hard time seeing how Nintendo is going to survive on exclusively family-friendly experiences like Mario and Donkey Kong. Whether Nintendo likes it or not, western gamers like mature experiences.
Halo, The Elder Scrolls, The Last of Us. Nintendo's got none of it. It has Viewtiful Joe. And while there is nothing wrong with liking that or any other Mario or Donkey Kong game, the fact is Nintendo seriously lacks variety.
*sigh* I feel like this might be the beginning of the end for Nintendo in the hardware market. I know people will scoff at me for saying that, but Nintendo's philosophy on hardcore gaming has been falling apart since the N64. Even the Wii wasn't exactly known for it's impressive library of games. It was built on a gimmick. How can their next console be successful with Nintendo's philosophy on gaming?
Either that, or they need to go third party. Either way, I have a hard time seeing how Nintendo is going to survive on exclusively family-friendly experiences like Mario and Donkey Kong. Whether Nintendo likes it or not, western gamers like mature experiences.
Halo, The Elder Scrolls, The Last of Us. Nintendo's got none of it. It has Viewtiful Joe. And while there is nothing wrong with liking that or any other Mario or Donkey Kong game, the fact is Nintendo seriously lacks variety.
*sigh* I feel like this might be the beginning of the end for Nintendo in the hardware market. I know people will scoff at me for saying that, but Nintendo's philosophy on hardcore gaming has been falling apart since the N64. Even the Wii wasn't exactly known for it's impressive library of games. It was built on a gimmick. How can their next console be successful with Nintendo's philosophy on gaming?
I don't think that guys not wanting be be seen playing cartoon games is the problem. I think the days of a console selling well on the merits of a few great first party games is gone. Even more so when said console is in the same basic price point as its competition and isn't as powerful, and has paltry developer support.
It doesnt matter how awesome the specs/system is if they do not do something about their horrible online systems/policies
Yeah, i agree. That's more or less what i was getting at. Consoles don't really sell just on the games alone anymore. It's more about which one has better word of mouth and the features you want. Some people even said the controller was the deciding factor last gen.
To me it should always come down to the games. That's why i chose the Xbox One over the PS4. Not just because of the great launch lineup Microsoft put out but i think the future looks better for the X1. While the 360 exclusive content started to dry up and everyone complained last gen i knew all along Microsoft was just gearing up for this gen.
I feel ya on that, though I give em' one more console release, that'll be the hour of reckoning.
Yeah my guess this isn't going to happen, but if it is, are the specs they listed any good?
I'm not a specs guy, but where would these specs put the "Terminal" in comparison to PS4 and X1?
- GPGPU: Custom Radeon HD RX 200 GPU CODENAME LADY (2816 shaders @ 960 MHz, 4.60 TFLOP/s, Fillrates: 60.6 Gpixel/s, 170 Gtexel/s)
- CPU: IBM 64-Bit Custom POWER 8-Based IBM 8-Core Processor CODENAME JUMPMAN (2.2 GHz, Shared 6 MB L4 cache)
- Co-CPU: IBM PowerPC 750-based 1.24 GHz Tri-Core Co-Processor CODENAME HAMMER
- MEMORY: 4 Gigabytes of Unified DDR4 SDRAM CODENAMED KONG, 2 GB DDR3 RAM @ 1600 MHz (12.8 GB/s) On Die CODENAMED BARREL
- 802.11 b/g/n Wireless
- Bluetooth v4.0 BLE
- 2 USB 3.0
- 1 Coaxial Cable Input
- 1 CableCARD Slot
- 4 Custom Stream-Interface Nodes up to 4 Wii U GamePads
- Versions with Disk Drive play Wii U Optical Disk (4 Layers Maximum), FUSION Holographic Versatile Disc (HVD) and Nintendo 3DS Card Slot
- 1 HDMI 2.0 1080p/4K Port
- Dolby TrueHD 5.1 or 7.1 Surround Sound
- Inductive Charging Surface for up to 4 FUSION DS or IC-Wii Remote Plus Controllers
- Two versions: Disk Slot Version with 60 Gigs of Internal Flash Storage and Diskless Version with 300 Gigs of Internal Flash Storage
I'm not a specs guy, but where would these specs put the "Terminal" in comparison to PS4 and X1?