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[TeKPhaN]

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The leaker says the PS5’s new slogan is “It’s time to play,” and will apply to the brand as a whole.

"The console will supposedly be released worldwide in October 2020, “priced at $499 USD / £449 UK / €449 EU / ¥54,999 JP.” Only a single PS5 model will be available at launch, and there won’t be a Pro version out in stores in 2020. Interestingly, the leak says that the base PS5 specs will be roughly on par with the most expensive Xbox Series X model, which will cost $100 more than the PS5. Microsoft will also supposedly have a cheaper new Xbox that will cost $100 less than the PS5"

"The leaker says the PS5 will have 10 teraflops of GPU power, while the cheaper 2020 Xbox will get about half that at 4 teraflops. Interestingly, a now-disputed PS5 rumor said the console will have a GPU capable of 9.2 teraflops, while the Xbox would go to 12 teraflops.

The 4chan user also said that PlayStation Now will play a vital role in the PS5’s future, as it will let you access games via a subscription fee or just play your own games. Each PS5 purchase will come with a three-month PS Now trial. Remote Play will support PS5 gameplay on smartphone, tablet, laptop, and desktop. All you need is a Wi-Fi or cellular connection to stream games from the console. The mobile PS5 app will get a makeover, although the virtual assistant we’ve read so much about wasn’t mentioned in this new report."

 

[karmakid]

I’m ok with it, it’ll keep me at an elite membership at bb

 

[JinCA]

IF true it sounds great, very nice price to performance ratio. That being said I'm highly skeptical of any of these leaks one way or the other right now.

 

[menace-uk-]

Amp’d bankruptcy means no cell phone porn

The fallout from Amp’d Mobile’s bankruptcy filing has had some unforeseen consequences. The NY Times is reporting that the MVNO’s financial issues may have slowed the onslaught of…

bgr.com

The leaker says the PS5’s new slogan is “It’s time to play,” and will apply to the brand as a whole.

"The console will supposedly be released worldwide in October 2020, “priced at $499 USD / £449 UK / €449 EU / ¥54,999 JP.” Only a single PS5 model will be available at launch, and there won’t be a Pro version out in stores in 2020. Interestingly, the leak says that the base PS5 specs will be roughly on par with the most expensive Xbox Series X model, which will cost $100 more than the PS5. Microsoft will also supposedly have a cheaper new Xbox that will cost $100 less than the PS5"

"The leaker says the PS5 will have 10 teraflops of GPU power, while the cheaper 2020 Xbox will get about half that at 4 teraflops. Interestingly, a now-disputed PS5 rumor said the console will have a GPU capable of 9.2 teraflops, while the Xbox would go to 12 teraflops.

The 4chan user also said that PlayStation Now will play a vital role in the PS5’s future, as it will let you access games via a subscription fee or just play your own games. Each PS5 purchase will come with a three-month PS Now trial. Remote Play will support PS5 gameplay on smartphone, tablet, laptop, and desktop. All you need is a Wi-Fi or cellular connection to stream games from the console. The mobile PS5 app will get a makeover, although the virtual assistant we’ve read so much about wasn’t mentioned in this new report."

Calling bulls***.

1. The flagship models having a 100 dollar price difference wont happen. MS saw how negative that is.
2. Who the f*** is going to buy the 4 TF xbox?Way too underpowered.. Makes 0 sense next to the more powerful version and the "streaming" mantra.

 

[TeKPhaN]

Calling bulls***.

1. The flagship models having a 100 dollar price difference wont happen. MS saw how negative that is.
2. Who the f*** is going to buy the 4 TF xbox?Way too underpowered.. Makes 0 sense next to the more powerful version and the "streaming" mantra.

MS is going to take a loss and sell it's allegedly 12TF machine for $499?

MS isn't selling a weaker alternative?

Don't we wish!

 

[Pureshooter]

As a rumor I like, I now accept this as truth.

 

[menace-uk-]

MS is going to take a loss and sell it's allegedly 12TF machine for $499?

MS isn't selling a weaker alternative?

Don't we wish!

They may sell a weaker alternative, but 4 TF would be dumb. A weaker alternative than theie"12TF" model still has has to be relative and comparative to the " 9.2TF" PS5. This is the only they could sell the 12TF version for $600.

 

[Hedon]

MS is going to take a loss and sell it's allegedly 12TF machine for $499?

MS isn't selling a weaker alternative?

Don't we wish!

I think you missed this part:

Only a single PS5 model will be available at launch, and there won’t be a Pro version out in stores in 2020. Interestingly, the leak says that the base PS5 specs will be roughly on par with the most expensive Xbox Series X model, which will cost $100 more than the PS5.

Dictionary: on a par with. As good as, equal to.

So why would MS release a console that is as good as or equal to the PS5 for $100 more?

Sounds like BS IMO.

 

[TeKPhaN]

I think you missed this part:

Only a single PS5 model will be available at launch, and there won’t be a Pro version out in stores in 2020. Interestingly, the leak says that the base PS5 specs will be roughly on par with the most expensive Xbox Series X model, which will cost $100 more than the PS5.

Dictionary: on a par with. As good as, equal to.

So why would MS release a console that is as good as or equal to the PS5 for $100 more?

Sounds like BS IMO.

He doesn't believe a weaker model is going to be sold.
He doesn't believe MS will charge more for it's more powerful sku.

 

[TeKPhaN]

They may sell a weaker alternative, but 4 TF would be dumb. A weaker alternative than theie"12TF" model still has has to be relative and comparative to the " 9.2TF" PS5. This is the only they could sell the 12TF version for $600.

Well no s*** it's dumb and I been saying this but guess what? It's very likely lol

I'm thinking 10TF's or higher vs 12TF's.

MS won't match them on price even though they need to and can afford it.

 

[Hedon]

He doesn't believe a weaker model is going to be sold.
He doesn't believe MS will charge more for it's more powerful sku.

No, what he wrote was that the PS5 and Xbox Series X are the same in performance but Xbox will charge more for the same performance. Why would Microsoft sell the exact same hardware performance for 20% more. That aint happening, which makes this rumor bunk.

 

[TeKPhaN]

No, what he wrote was that the PS5 and Xbox Series X are the same in performance but Xbox will charge more for the same performance. Why would Microsoft sell the exact same hardware performance for 20% more. That aint happening, which makes this rumor bunk.

MS won't sell a 12TF XSX for more than a 10TF PS5?

 

[Hedon]

MS won't sell a 12TF XSX for more than a 10TF PS5?

Here is what he said:

Only a single PS5 model will be available at launch, and there won’t be a Pro version out in stores in 2020. Interestingly, the leak says that the base PS5 specs will be roughly on par with the most expensive Xbox Series X model, which will cost $100 more than the PS5.

Why would Microsoft sell the exact same hardware performance for 20% more? That aint happening, which makes this rumor bunk.

 

[menace-uk-]

Well no s*** it's dumb and I been saying this but guess what? It's very likely lol

I'm thinking 10TF's or higher vs 12TF's.

MS won't match them on price even though they need to and can afford it.

I don't think it is likely at all. Who is it aimed at? Who is buying a new gen sku that is less powerful than the gen it is replacing?

10 v 12 tF is basically the same..It is only a theoretical number anyway. Trying to sell that at 100 more doesn't make sense either.

 

[TeKPhaN]

I don't think it is likely at all. Who is it aimed at? Who is buying a new gen sku that is less powerful than the gen it is replacing?

10 v 12 tF is basically the same..It is only a theoretical number anyway. Trying to sell that at 100 more doesn't make sense either.

It's not the same.
I agree but MS isn't likely to match them in price.

 

[TeKPhaN]

Here is what he said:



Why would Microsoft sell the exact same hardware performance for 20% more? That aint happening, which makes this rumor bunk.

Why would MS charge more for 20% more TF performance? Is that what you're asking?

 

[menace-uk-]

It's not the same.
I agree but MS isn't likely to match them in price.

With how much power here the 2 TF difference is minimal. The dedicated ray tracing has a better shot at making a significant difference.

When was the last time we saw sony or MS make the same mistake twice? History and logic dictates te price will be very close.

 

[TeKPhaN]

With how much power here the 2 TF difference is minimal. The dedicated ray tracing has a better shot at making a significant difference.

When was the last time we saw sony or MS make the same mistake twice? History and logic dictates te price will be very close.

It needs to be close but might not be.

 

[JinCA]

With how much power here the 2 TF difference is minimal. The dedicated ray tracing has a better shot at making a significant difference.

When was the last time we saw sony or MS make the same mistake twice? History and logic dictates te price will be very close.

I would 100% agree with you if lockhart wasn't a thing, if that ends up being real I'm guessing the suits at MS would think that gives them cover to charge a higher price on XSX so they aren't losing any money on it.

 

[Viktor]

I’m ok with it, it’ll keep me at an elite membership at bb

I think I came up short on that this year, although it still shows it at Elite for me??? Either way, with one, possibly both, of these consoles, plus a 4k TV I'll easily get to it for next year.

 

[menace-uk-]

I would 100% agree with you if lockhart wasn't a thing, if that ends up being real I'm guessing the suits at MS would think that gives them cover to charge a higher price on XSX so they aren't losing any money on it.

Only if Lockheart is comparable powerwise.

 

[TeKPhaN]

Only if Lockheart is comparable powerwise.

But it isn't and MS is releasing it LOL.

 

[Hedon]

Why would MS charge more for 20% more TF performance? Is that what you're asking?

I am asking about what the article discussed:

Only a single PS5 model will be available at launch, and there won’t be a Pro version out in stores in 2020. Interestingly, the leak says that the base PS5 specs will be roughly on par with the most expensive Xbox Series X model, which will cost $100 more than the PS5.

Why would Microsoft sell the exact same hardware performance for 20% more?

 

[TeKPhaN]

I am asking about what the article discussed:



Why would Microsoft sell the exact same hardware performance for 20% more?

10 vs 12 isn't the same.
I am assuming the writer is being ignorant to this OR other factors besides TF's make them close.

 

[Hedon]

I am assuming the writer is being ignorant to this

Sounds like this. Pretty sure MS has no intention of making the same mistake again. No way would the two systems be "on par" and be $100 difference in price.

 

[JinCA]

Only if Lockheart is comparable powerwise.

Lockhart seems to only be there so they can avoid any complaints about being too expensive, that doesn't mean that PS5 and XSX won't be the same price but clearly they think the pricing on the real next gen console is going to be prohibitive to some. Again IF lockhart ends up being a real product.

 

[menace-uk-]

Lockhart seems to only be there so they can avoid any complaints about being too expensive, that doesn't mean that PS5 and XSX won't be the same price but clearly they think the pricing on the real next gen console is going to be prohibitive to some. Again IF lockhart ends up being a real product.

Which it wouldn't do anyway. At 4TF it wont even be in consideration as a next gen console.

Every product ever made is prohibitive to some.

 

[JinCA]

Which it wouldn't do anyway. At 4TF it wont even be in consideration as a next gen console.

Every product ever made is prohibitive to some.

Oh I agree but I'm guessing they talked themselves into thinking this would quell any complaints. It sounds like based on the rumored specs it'd be comparable to a One X with a much better CPU. I wouldn't consider that next gen either but it's all up to them and how they decide to present it.

 

[TeKPhaN]

Which it wouldn't do anyway. At 4TF it wont even be in consideration as a next gen console.

Every product ever made is prohibitive to some.

This is what I said about it...

They sure can have another model but if it's 4TF vs a 6TF X that causes much confusion and isn't appealing.
Throwing the 4.2TF Pro in the mix doesn't help either.

The but but it's RDNA spin the consumer won't care about.

Price they do care about so $299(or less) or bust.

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