Sony Financially Discouraged Developers From Incorporating CrossPlay On PlayStation

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The amount of industry reveals coming out of this Epic vs Apple lawsuit is gold. This reveal, MS internal review of TLOU2, EPIC's buyout prices for exclusives. And the case just started.
 

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Both Sony and Epic want to make as much money as possible.

Sony shouldn't block cross platform play though. If it's PC I'd understand but across consoles? I say let them battle it out.
 
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Both Sony and Epic want to make as much money as possible.

Sony shouldn't block cross platform play though. If it's PC I'd understand but across consoles? I say let them battle it out.
But I'm confused as to why cross-play would hurt their profits. Gamers are going to purchase for their preferred platform and cross-play means they don't have to worry about not being able to play with those on a different platform.
 
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But I'm confused as to why cross-play would hurt their profits. Gamers are going to purchase for their preferred platform and cross-play means they don't have to worry about not being able to play with those on a different platform.

Player populations. Owning both consoles, I would sometimes buy multiplat MP games on PS only because I knew there were a ton more Playstations out there. I purposely switched Destiny from Xbox to PS back in the day because of this. There were simply a ton more people at the time.

I've always been an Xbox fan, but at X1 launch it was painfully obvious how many more PS players there were. Ps outselling Xbox by such a huge margin isn't just for console wars, it actually hurts player populations in games.
 

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Good I f***ing hate crossplay. The cheating PC scumbags have destroyed the COD games.
Just like they ruin every popular online game.

Yea because there has NEVER been cheaters on console online games. :meh:
 

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But I'm confused as to why cross-play would hurt their profits. Gamers are going to purchase for their preferred platform and cross-play means they don't have to worry about not being able to play with those on a different platform.

Agreed this doesn't make any sense.


Sony is anti consumer.
 
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Player populations. Owning both consoles, I would sometimes buy multiplat MP games on PS only because I knew there were a ton more Playstations out there. I purposely switched Destiny from Xbox to PS back in the day because of this. There were simply a ton more people at the time.

I've always been an Xbox fan, but at X1 launch it was painfully obvious how many more PS players there were. Ps outselling Xbox by such a huge margin isn't just for console wars, it actually hurts player populations in games.
Yeah, but as a gamer in the know what you describe is understood. But for casual gamers that don't follow the news they will get a game on a platform they are most comfortable with. Those gamers are going to play where they want to play without factoring in quicker matchmaking. Basically what I'm getting at is that the majority of gamers will purchase a game for their preferred platform. I just don't see how cross-play could erode any platforms player base.

Especially when you factor in how comparatively similar both XBL and PSN are in terms of features. Its not like PSN players will have access to the GamePass list and say "OMG, I need to get on Xbox". If that was the case then yeah I can understand the hesitancy and restriction of cross-play.
 
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Without crossplay, people less likely to want Xbox since its has far less numbers means matchmaking takes longer, instead choose ps4 with significant higher player Counts.

it’s a dick move though.
 

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Without crossplay, people less likely to want Xbox since its has far less numbers means matchmaking takes longer, instead choose ps4 with significant higher player Counts.

it’s a dick move though.
With nearly 60 million Xbox One consoles sold and cross play with Microsoft Windows PC, there was never a shortage of matches on Xbox. Unless of course the game was Crackdown 3.
 

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Was this ever implemented though? There are other documents from this suit detailing things that haven't or were not implemented/acted on. Like MS's proposed plan to increase develpor percentage from sales.
 

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Epic guy makes them look like epic douchebags, this isn't a good look... It's like Obama sitting down and having a business meeting with Trump lol
Why does anyone not involved in those companies even care? we aren't paying for it and as far as Epic goes Sony has turned around and invested hundreds of millions of dollars into the company. The only reason MS even started backing cross play was because Xbox was doing so poorly in comparison last gen, if they had been stronger in sales they never would have gone for it, they were the first ones to charge for online play and block it off from others to begin with, Sony allowed PS/PC cross play before the first xbox released. MS's sole goal with this was to try to hurt Sony financially, none of these companies care about being "consumer friendly"
 

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Xbox had cross platform play with PC/PS2 back when the 360 first launched. I remember playing against PC/PS2 players in FFXI Online.
 

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Why does anyone not involved in those companies even care? we aren't paying for it and as far as Epic goes Sony has turned around and invested hundreds of millions of dollars into the company. The only reason MS even started backing cross play was because Xbox was doing so poorly in comparison last gen, if they had been stronger in sales they never would have gone for it, they were the first ones to charge for online play and block it off from others to begin with, Sony allowed PS/PC cross play before the first xbox released. MS's sole goal with this was to try to hurt Sony financially, none of these companies care about being "consumer friendly"
I don't care about cross play, I don't care about Sony being stuck in medieval times. I only point out the fact that Epic behaves like s*** in their mail conversation.
 

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Come on man are you really going to compare some people taking advantage of map or weapon glitches for a few weeks to the hacks uaed for aimbots and the rest of the nonsense PC gamers are known to use?

You guys have SERIOUSLY short memories. PS2, Xbox, and even X360 and PS3 had rampant cheating that wasn't just glitchs and game exploits. You guys are delusional.

I played the SOCOM series religiously which was absolutely RUINED by cheaters, Halo 2, Call of Duty games, all of the popular one's people completely ruined.
 
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From my memory going back to the OG XBox to now I’ve seen far less cheating over the decades than we do now with crossplay. Were their cheaters on console yes, did you see it all the time no. But now with crossplay and COD I see the s*** all the damn time. I wish we could do console crossplay only. F*** playing against PC.
 
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Console players vs PC players in a FPS game...no need to cheat when you have the incredible accuracy of using a mouse to aim. Unless they gimp the PC controls like let's say, Shadowrun on XB360/PC.