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Its time for the best VP pick of all time

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It BETTER not be Bass or Whitmer. That would be a Tim Kaine like pick.
 
It BETTER not be Bass or Whitmer. That would be a Tim Kaine like pick.

Problem with Whitmer is it looks bad with a pandemic going on. She should have her hands full.

I at least can understand Rice if they have a good relationship and he priorities that
 
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Problem with Whitmer is it looks bad with a pandemic going on. She should have her hands full.

I at least can understand Rice if they have a good relationship and he priorities that

Sadly there will be a lot of ammo against her because of her foreign policy missteps.

As far as a "unity ticket" I agree 100% that would be terrible, this isn't a 3rd party campaign this is a man who ran to be the nominee for the Democratic party, you don't pick a Republican as a running mate, especially if you are as old as Biden but even a younger candidate would be making a huge mistake doing that.
 
Yeah let's not give a guy who actually tried to win the nomination and had forward thinking ideas and has been a Joe Biden cheerleader since he got the nomination a spot at the convention, let's let a Republican who doesnt like Trump speak instead...f***ING DUMB!!!
 
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Yeah let's not give a guy who actually tried to win the nomination and had forward thinking ideas and has been a Joe Biden cheerleader since he got the nomination a spot at the convention, let's let a Republican who doesnt like Trump speak instead...f***ING DUMB!!!




Definitely a mistake for him not to be there but I disagree about Kasich. Getting a legit and known Republican to speak there is a good get. There would be plenty of other people they could cut first to get Yang on there.

That is just Krystal Ball doing what she always done. Trying to divide Democrats.
 
Yeah let's not give a guy who actually tried to win the nomination and had forward thinking ideas and has been a Joe Biden cheerleader since he got the nomination a spot at the convention, let's let a Republican who doesnt like Trump speak instead...f***ING DUMB!!!

Yang wouldn't necessarily bring anything to the convention that is pressing. Beyond Kasich being a republican, he's a former governor of a battleground state and was beat trump in the primary in 2016. There's a more to it. Also, before Yang, Abrams should have been chosen. People may complain about AOC, but she's more important to speak than Yang as well. The only person Yang could possible replace on the list is Yates, or Hillary or Bill. I wish neither was asked to speak.
 


Definitely a mistake for him not to be there but I disagree about Kasich. Getting a legit and known Republican to speak there is a good get. There would be plenty of other people they could cut first to get Yang on there.

That is just Krystal Ball doing what she always done. Trying to divide Democrats.


No that's not what she's trying to do, she's a progressive and wants the party to move more to the left and doesn't like this constant centrist BS that goes on and I agree with her on that. As far as Yang speaking he absolutely should be there, Kasich isn't even a Democrat and while I'm not opposed to him speaking when it comes to having him there which won't do much good vs having Yang there it just seems like an easy choice. Trump is still very popular among Republicans so I'm not sure how much sway Kasich is going to have, MAYBE it helps a tiny bit in Ohio but I wouldn't bet on it.
 
Yang wouldn't necessarily bring anything to the convention that is pressing. Beyond Kasich being a republican, he's a former governor of a battleground state and was beat trump in the primary in 2016. There's a more to it. Also, before Yang, Abrams should have been chosen. People may complain about AOC, but she's more important to speak than Yang as well. The only person Yang could possible replace on the list is Yates, or Hillary or Bill. I wish neither was asked to speak.

Abrams? The media darling who hasn't actually done anything? lol. She almost won governor of Georgia and has been doing her best audition for VP ever since her name was floated in the media but I don't get it. I agree that the Clintons shouldn't be there especially Bill, that's going to turn a lot of the loud leftist feminists off. I don't get Sally Yates speaking, are they just going to dredge up the Russia stuff that didn't work last time?
 
Yang wouldn't necessarily bring anything to the convention that is pressing. Beyond Kasich being a republican, he's a former governor of a battleground state and was beat trump in the primary in 2016. There's a more to it. Also, before Yang, Abrams should have been chosen. People may complain about AOC, but she's more important to speak than Yang as well. The only person Yang could possible replace on the list is Yates, or Hillary or Bill. I wish neither was asked to speak.

Obamas, Bidens, Bernie, Warren, AOC, Pelosi, and Bill should all be considered definite definites to me.

No that's not what she's trying to do, she's a progressive and wants the party to move more to the left and doesn't like this constant centrist BS that goes on and I agree with her on that. As far as Yang speaking he absolutely should be there, Kasich isn't even a Democrat and while I'm not opposed to him speaking when it comes to having him there which won't do much good vs having Yang there it just seems like an easy choice. Trump is still very popular among Republicans so I'm not sure how much sway Kasich is going to have, MAYBE it helps a tiny bit in Ohio but I wouldn't bet on it.

Its what she is doing because she does it all the time

Having one Republican hardly makes the whole convention a conservative or centrist convention. Especially not when you have Bernie, Warren, and AOC there. The one advantage of having Biden as the nominee is you can build a potentially larger coalition and that includes conservative voters. Maybe Kasich convinces nobody but maybe nobody on there convinces anyone.

There is no question that he is a good get. There should be someone on there who can credibly send the message that this election should be bigger than any party.
 
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Obamas, Bidens, Bernie, Warren, AOC, Pelosi, and Bill should all be considered definite definites to me.



Its what she is doing because she does it all the time

Having one Republican hardly makes the whole convention a conservative or centrist convention. Especially not when you have Bernie, Warren, and AOC there. The one advantage of having Biden as the nominee is you can build a potentially larger coalition and that includes conservative voters. Maybe Kasich convinces nobody but maybe nobody on there convinces anyone.

There is no question that he is a good get. There should be someone on there who can credibly send the message that this election should be bigger than any party.

The issue is outside of Ohio he isn't popular in their own party and even there when he left office he was at like 53% with Republicans there. It's a nice idea that probably isn't going to actually accomplish anything. Kasich has never liked Trump, he's a traditional Republican with mostly traditional republican ideals which are generally at odds with things most Democrats believe in.

This says is perfectly IMO, it's fine to have him there but Yang made more noise with the Democratic primary than Kasich did in their primary when he ran in 2016. I do believe he's wrong on one of the debates though, Yang missed one due to the polling not being accepted.
 
He clearly always favored her. He went out of his way all year to sing her praises which is why I thought all year he would pick her and probably why she was always the favorite. Its the right move.
 
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Do any of you realize how lucky you are not to live in KY and have to endure McConnell's constant commercials of gibberish every single commercial break like I have to? Even on YouTube. Yep, I have to hear that mumbling moron there too.
 
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Do any of you realize how lucky you are not to live in KY and have to endure McConnell's constant commercials of gibberish every single commercial break like I have to? Even on YouTube. Yep, I have to hear that mumbling moron there too.


Well, we had the signs and ads for Jeff Sessions in Alabama still proclaiming loyalty or fealty to Trump which was getting to be pretty pathetic.

I'm not even sure how McConnell could pitch his campaign though other than attacking McGrath. What can he even claim to stand for?
 
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A long read, but a good one on how badly we discuss women in a position like this. Don't fall into the misogynists traps (I know I bumbled right into them in 2016, but I'm trying to learn). Men... step up and be better (or at least STFU and remind yourself about how horrible Trump is).


Joe Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee, has said since March that his vice-presidential pick will be a woman. He’s given something close to a promise that he’ll announce his choice next week.

The preview of what we can now expect this to look like has already been migraine-inducing.

For clearly stating she’d love the job, Georgia’s Stacey Abrams was deemed overly self-promotional: “Stacey Abrams feels entitled to power, which is why she shouldn’t get it,” read the headline on a Washington Examiner column. Members of Biden’s own vetting committee recently fretted that Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.), often seen as a front-runner, might be too “ambitious,” focused on her own presidential hopes rather than Biden’s administration. (Biden served as Obama’s No. 2 after his own presidential run petered out in 2008; presumably his team does not think that he was too ambitious for a secondary role.)

After the vice-presidential announcement didn’t come last week, when many prognosticators thought it would, some allies started to worry that the process was starting to look “messier than it should be,” as if Biden couldn’t make up his mind. Maybe, though, he’d already made the decision, and the decision was to protect his running mate for as long as possible from the sexist nonsense that awaits her. The veepstakes are always a rodeo, but when female candidates are involved, somehow it’s everyone’s first one:

“She was smiling on TV, something that she doesn’t do all that readily,” former Democratic Party chair Ed Rendell recently told The Washington Post, attempting to praise former U.N. ambassador Susan E. Rice by instead invoking the directive — Smile! — loathed by women everywhere. “She was actually somewhat charming on TV, something that she has not seemed to care about in the past.” (“Does he think this is helpful?” a senior adviser to former Housing and Urban Development secretary Julián Castro tweeted in response.)

One would think we’d have gotten better at discussing female candidates over the years. And we have, sort of. Nobody has outright asked any of the Biden contenders whether foreign powers will be able to take them seriously, a question Ferraro was forced to smile through. But part of the problem is that it’s taken America so long to close the deal that we’re in a 250-Year-Old Virgin situation: awkwardness compounded by ineptitude wrapped in bizarre expectations.

If only we were not freaking out over the first but yawning at the 15th. If George Washington’s vice president had been not John but Abigail Adams; if Victoria Woodhull had been grabbed for a mainstream ticket in 1872; if Sarah Palin had been given the chance to see the Russian Embassy from her house at the Naval Observatory; if Ted Cruz had snagged the 2016 nomination and taken along Carly Fiorina, his Hail Mary running mate — then maybe we could let go of all these paralyzing anxieties about how the veep’s smile could affect turnout in Broward County. We could just accept that we’ll have good female vice presidents and bad ones, charming ones and dour ones, ambitious ones and . . . They’ll always be ambitious. Any human running for high office is ambitious.
 
Do any of you realize how lucky you are not to live in KY and have to endure McConnell's constant commercials of gibberish every single commercial break like I have to? Even on YouTube. Yep, I have to hear that mumbling moron there too.

What about the sound of a turtle deepthroating a water balloon doesn't work for you? Also f*** him and anyone who blames the Dems for no new corona aid when Mitch can't even get a Republican alternative to even vote on, but they'll still happily confirm s***ty judges for their entire four day work week.
 
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Well, we had the signs and ads for Jeff Sessions in Alabama still proclaiming loyalty or fealty to Trump which was getting to be pretty pathetic.

I'm not even sure how McConnell could pitch his campaign though other than attacking McGrath. What can he even claim to stand for?

Mum mum mum Amy McGrath bad mum mum mum Amy McGrath supports burning of Federal buildings mum mum mummm mum Amy McGrath says this is peaceful protest (inserts videos of looting and cars burning) mumum mum mum Amy McGrath will destroy dis country mum MUM mumm mum mum Amy McGrath is bayud for Kintucky not a good leader mum mumm mumm I support dis missige.

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That Sessions guy had to be pretty bad too.
 
Mum mum mum Amy McGrath bad mum mum mum Amy McGrath supports burning of Federal buildings mum mum mummm mum Amy McGrath says this is peaceful protest (inserts videos of looting and cars burning) mumum mum mum Amy McGrath will destroy dis country mum MUM mumm mum mum Amy McGrath is bayud for Kintucky not a good leader mum mumm mumm I support dis missige.

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That Sessions guy had to be pretty bad too.

If you vote for Sessions you get free cookies, maybe.

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I want the last 4 years of my life back, or at least have any memories of all of these idiots to be removed somehow.
 
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Do any of you realize how lucky you are not to live in KY and have to endure McConnell's constant commercials of gibberish every single commercial break like I have to? Even on YouTube. Yep, I have to hear that mumbling moron there too.

I'm pretty sure its one of the layers of hell.
 
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