This is the generation of Crybabies.

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I'm quite literally getting sick to my stomach.
What happened to playing games and being happy to play them?
What happened to spending time on message boards and sharing unique experiences regardless of what platform you are playing on?
What happened to the gaming community?

This isn't what I signed up for.
I can remember playing the N64 and PS1 back in the day and never having to defend or read through mountains of fanboy rage to discuss games.

What has turned my hobby into something that makes me despise most of my peers who also game? I'll tell you what. A single word:
ENTITLEMENT.

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Gamers today think that just because they swore allegiance to a particular platform, that platform should get every game/content/royalty in existence.

I don't understand it. The console manufacturers are in it for the money. ALL of them. Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo it doesn't matter. They want to make money and they want to lure you away from each other. The next Tomb Raider going 'exclusive' is just the latest example.

People are crying because in order to play the game you need to own a console that the crybabies don't want to own. So this underlying sense of entitlement is driving militant fanboys to take their frustration to the internet in hopes of reversing exclusivity.

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XB1 Destiny fans did the same thing when it was found out that the PS4 was getting (timed) exclusive content. These are deals made by console makers with publishers so that the particular platform that benefits will appear more alluring. It creates a need to buy the platform to experience these unique features/games. These practices DRIVE the industry forward and console sales forward.

This generation of crybabies have forgot what drives sales and makes consoles competitive. A competitive console environment means great things for gamers. Grabbing up exclusives or exclusive features ensures that we don't live in a single console environment. Who wants a console space inhabited just by Sony, or Microsoft, or Nintendo?? Apparently the crybabies do....

They're (Microsoft) already preparing the brand for sale with the closing of divisions and laying off thousands of XBOX employees, imo. These are the things you do before a sale to make the offer look more attractive to buyers, you cut operating costs.

The lack of investment in exclusives is apparently part of the plan as well. I look at it as a good thing though.
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It really is unbelievable. It has turned my hobby into something I enjoy privately, but not collectively or with the larger gaming community. People are all too quick to take to task these companies (Microsoft or Sony) because of some imagined slight and blast that company online for the world to hear.

Being a mod here on Union has really driven this point home. I love this site, and the fact that the majority of the posters here seem to think rationally it really makes Union stand out from the larger mass of fanboy inspired hate that permeates the internet fold.
Outside of these forums it really is an unpleasant place, and the crybaby mentality has made me leery of addressing my opinion on other forums.

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I guess I should get use to it. As this generation goes on there will no doubt be alot more tears shed. My only advice to those who are upset about the TR exclusivity is that you should buy both consoles. Same goes for Destiny on the PS4. If you don't want to then don't complain. Exclusivity is one of the fundamental factors that drive console sales and that isn't going to change.
This generation of crybabies is well underway.

Anyway, discuss.
How do you honestly feel about gaming community these days? Do you find it enjoyable to discuss games online or are you largely disgusted by the current state of gaming and gaming media as a whole?
For me Union really is the only forum I frequent these days. How about you?
 
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I just shrug it all off. The Xbox One is getting owned in sales right now and it's still my favorite console. It doesn't matter what people have to say about it. Same went for the PS3 last gen when i was enjoying that console more at the time. It's all about the games and the experience in that moment. What people are saying really doesn't matter. In fact, i've been playing my PS4 a lot more lately since The Last of Us Remastered released and i've been loving it. I enjoy all of my consoles, regardless of preference. If you only own one platform i feel bad for you son. I got 99 problems but self-entitlement ain't one.
 
TDbank24 said:
I just shrug it all off. The Xbox One is getting owned in sales right now and it's still my favorite console. It doesn't matter what people have to say about it. Same went for the PS3 last gen when i was enjoying that console more at the time. It's all about the games and the experience in that moment. What people are saying really doesn't matter. In fact, i've been playing my PS4 a lot more lately since The Last of Us Remastered released and i've been loving it. I enjoy all of my consoles, regardless of preference. If you only own one platform i feel bad for you son. I got 99 problems but self-entitlement ain't one.
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Well said TDbank.
I just think this generation is by far the most toxic I can remember. It is being fueled in no small part by the gaming media as well. Gotta keep the fanboys happy by making every situation toxic and divisive.
I miss loading up Youtube videos and having conversations about game trailers or talking with other viewers.
Now?
You can't even do that without someone crying or going off the deep end and flaming the game/platform. Its disgusting.
 
I just ignore the console wars. It's easy not caring, and it's easy to identify "the warriors" and avoid them.
 
Real gamers try and own all the platforms as possible to have the most diverse gaming experience.
 
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eVo7 said:
Real gamers try and own all the platforms as possible to have the most diverse gaming experience.
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True, but then you get the inevitable reason "Well I can't afford that!"

....but they can afford paying for online and spending $60+ a pop on new games.
Ugh...
 
Why should this gen be any different then the last ones? Why was it ok when Sony bought tons of exclusives? What is wrong with buying multiple systems for their exclusives all of a sudden?
 
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True, but then you get the inevitable reason "Well I can't afford that!"

....but they can afford paying for online and spending $60+ a pop on new games.
Ugh...
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... "for consumers to think to themselves 'I will work more hours to buy one'. We want people to feel that they want it, irrespective of anything else." In other words: Get a job! Get two jobs, ya lazy bums! Seriously though, is that their marketing plan? As tipster KD suggests, someone should start compiling all of the absurdities that fly outta this guy's mouth."
 
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True, but then you get the inevitable reason "Well I can't afford that!"

....but they can afford paying for online and spending $60+ a pop on new games.
Ugh...
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That's the worst kind of hater to me. The one who sticks to one console but can obviously afford them all and then bashes the other consoles. It's like.. you can just buy the other ones and play them you know. Why do you feel the need to hate on something other people enjoy? I don't get it. Just goes to show their character i guess.
 
What a crybaby! :p

Anyways, on topic. I've been saying something similar for a while now. People need to be okay with not having everything they want when they want it. This does not just apply to gamers either. We are most definitely in a generation of entitlement; I am constantly surrounded by it. It's one of the reasons I try to instill the idea that they are not entitled to everything in my kids. If something belongs to someone else, they are not obliged to share it with you and you shouldn't expect them to do so. Generosity is a wonderful thing from both the giving and receiving end, but hard work and effort are just as important to earning the things you want.

Platform holders have a responsibility to provide the best content and experience to the owners of their platform. The content of their competitor's platform is not their responsibility and anyone expecting it to be can't see past their own entitlement. In the end, while it may be a little disappointing to not be able to play a title you would like to play, you just have to be okay with it.
 
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I generally tune it out. A bunch of internet malcontents aren't going to stop me from enjoying all the games I like to play.
 
Just a thought. Which group is more sad?

People who are angry that a long running series that have mostly been available for PC & PS4 not being available now (at least for a while),

People (who do not own MS shares) are happy that the game will not come out for other consoles which would means many people would not be able to play it(for a while at least, or if they buy a X1) or hoping it stay exclusive forever.

Imagine if Google said Youtube will be banned from Safari or IOS devices, assuming they can do so, do IOS owners have the right to be angry? What would you think of people who are happy about this announcement? (assuming they do not own Google share)

Just something to think about.
 
It wouldn't kill some of you to take a break from video game forums and comments sections for a few days, just to see how all of this is much ado about nothing.
 
Yap, childish comments in game comment sessions do not affect my enjoyment of my games.

A good game is a good game, no matter what haters said, & a bad game is a bad game, no matter what apologist said.
 
I'll go so far as to say that, if something is really killing the industry as many of the communities say, it's them. All that these 'communities' have done recently are extremely conservative whines that makes any kind of change or bold moves impossible unless the agent is Valve Corporation or SCE. They pretend as if they are some harbingers of justice, but they just don't let traditionally hated companies like Microsoft or EA to do anything at all, while letting go ones like Activision or Ubisoft to do the same old s*** over and over. These communities want the industry to go to a certain way which leaves only a few companies intact and everyone else dying out. You know what that reminds me of? Comics - I mean, for the love of American comics I have, that industry is dying out. Only two major companies that do the same **** all the time, indies that do not earn as much (unless you are The Walking Dead), 'fans' practically doing nothing to change anything. Sounds very familiar if you ask me.
 
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The Living Tribunal said:
True, but then you get the inevitable reason "Well I can't afford that!"

....but they can afford paying for online and spending $60+ a pop on new games.
Ugh...
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Them not affording to own em all is the only worthy excuse I give someone who "claims" to be a gamer. Some who could afford other consoles but still missed them are the sad ,2 much fav plastic loving, flame bating agenda type.
 
Don't need all the consoles. I'm happy with what I got. Guess I'm not a "true gamer". Normally I just laugh at the butthurt.

Some stuff I read though are just asinine. Has there really been death threats at developers? Did I read this somewhere?
 
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True, but then you get the inevitable reason "Well I can't afford that!"

....but they can afford paying for online and spending $60+ a pop on new games.
Ugh...
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Sorry TLT but that just comes of as stupid. More consoles = more games which = more cost and you have more subs for online too. Perhaps people can afford one console, select games, and one online sub and nothing more. That is not "Ugh" that is life. People have to spend to their budget.
 
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starseeker said:
Yap, childish comments in game comment sessions do not affect my enjoyment of my games.

A good game is a good game, no matter what haters said, & a bad game is a bad game, no matter what apologist said.
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That is just it, this sort of crap really does not affect our enjoyment of games. In the end that is all that matters.
 
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Sorry TLT but that just comes of as stupid. More consoles = more games which = more cost and you have more subs for online too. Perhaps people can afford one console, select games, and one online sub and nothing more. That is not "Ugh" that is life. People have to spend to their budget.
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I'm referring more to the people that complain excessively and feel like they need to whine about it all the time.
Those gamers.
The ones that sign online petitions to get publishers to reverse exclusivity. If they are so angry about it they should save up and buy the console the game comes out on otherwise they need not complain.
I understand people not having the budget to buy a console, but complaining about the 'other' console getting exclusive games is at the same time ridiculous IMO.
 
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I'm referring more to the people that complain excessively and feel like they need to whine about it all the time.
Those gamers.
The ones that sign online petitions to get publishers to reverse exclusivity. If they are so angry about it they should save up and buy the console the game comes out on otherwise they need not complain.
I understand people not having the budget to buy a console, but complaining about the 'other' console getting exclusive games is at the same time ridiculous.
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People have the right to complain, to petition, and to be perfectly honest, I hate the idea and business practice of buying up 3rd party exclusives( that were previously Multiplatform) and exclusive content. IMO content should be on all platforms at the same time. Everybody buys the same game at the same price and IMO they are entitled to the option of all content on their platform of choice. Buying up exclusive content does not breed good competition, it simply segregates game content more which is not good.

The Competition we need and that drives consoles and gaming forward are in first party exclusives ( third party too when done like gears or resistance) and the hardware and feature sets of the consoles themselves.
 
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True, but then you get the inevitable reason "Well I can't afford that!"

....but they can afford paying for online and spending $60+ a pop on new games.
Ugh...
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Wait, wait, wait....so you're only a real gamer if you own all platforms? Say wha?! o_O

What if you dont want them all? What if one satisfies all your needs? Gaming has never, and I mean NEVER been that important to me to buy all the consoles of a generation. If I were to buy them all, it would be just to say I did so. Thats not reason enough. Thats an odd view of what a gamer is if I ever heard one, but....
 
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Wait, wait, wait....so you're only a real gamer if you own all platforms? Say wha?! o_O

What if you dont want them all? What if one satisfies all your needs? Gaming has never, and I mean NEVER been that important to me to buy all the consoles of a generation. If I were to buy them all, it would be just to say I did so. Thats not reason enough. Thats an odd view of what a gamer is if I ever heard one, but....
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Read my response to menace. I should have elaborated a little more in that post. No you don't have to own every console to be considered a 'true gamer' IMO. However if you are going out of your way whining about 3rd party exclusives or exclusive content on a platform you don't own then that is your issue.
People have a right to voice opinions, but complaining about something being exclusive won't work. Only viable alternative is to invest in that other console.
 
The vitriol stems from a very basic level of psychosis.

The internet is almost like giving an psychotic person a blow horn and a soapbox on a street corner.
 
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