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It's hard to do Live service multiplayer games right. Arguably, only Bungie has succeeded in the modern long term. If it were me, I'd have ND stick to their strengths and focus on the single player games but if studios were not allowed to branch out and try new things we'd have never gotten Horizon Zero Dawn series. So I guess let them try to bring their multiplayer vision forward and if it bombs they can learn from it.
 
It's hard to do Live service multiplayer games right. Arguably, only Bungie has succeeded in the modern long term. If it were me, I'd have ND stick to their strengths and focus on the single player games but if studios were not allowed to branch out and try new things we'd have never gotten Horizon Zero Dawn series. So I guess let them try to bring their multiplayer vision forward and if it bombs they can learn from it.
Bungie definitely isn't the only one but maybe the only one without any failures alongside it

Pretty sad if MP games can't exist unless they are able to go 5-10 years
 
It's hard to do Live service multiplayer games right. Arguably, only Bungie has succeeded in the modern long term. If it were me, I'd have ND stick to their strengths and focus on the single player games but if studios were not allowed to branch out and try new things we'd have never gotten Horizon Zero Dawn series. So I guess let them try to bring their multiplayer vision forward and if it bombs they can learn from it.
Have they.

They had to go free to play. Their live service is actually terrible. The thing that kept Destiny going all these years is the old school pay for DLC model.
 
So a company who failed to keep the vast majority of their userbase engaged to the point they had to go F2P is now the be all end all. Lol.

Give credit where it's due. The last major expansion was their highest concurrent Steam number yet. They are doing something right with this much hype still in the 9th year of this franchise.

 
Give credit where it's due. The last major expansion was their highest concurrent Steam number yet. They are doing something right with this much hype still in the 9th year of this franchise.

Their average players has halved and lost like 124K peak players in the last 2 months when back to the GaaS model (clearly not keeping players engaged). Using numbers for an expansion that follows the old pay to play DLC model and not the GaaS model they are wrongfully being praised for is very disingenuous.

They are terrible at live service. Using them as a benchmark is a terrible decision and should worry all Playstation fans.
 
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Give credit where it's due. The last major expansion was their highest concurrent Steam number yet. They are doing something right with this much hype still in the 9th year of this franchise.

Lightfall flopped, like most of the expansions. I’m surprised you never had this optimism for Bungies success prior to them being acquired by Sony 🤷‍♂️
 
Their average players has halved and lost like 124K peak players in the last 2 months when back to the GaaS model (clearly not keeping players engaged). Using numbers for an expansion that follows the old pay to play DLC model and not the GaaS model they are wrongfully being praised for is very disingenuous.

They are terrible at live service. Using them as a benchmark is a terrible decision and should worry all Playstation fans.

Lightfall flopped, like most of the expansions. I’m surprised you never had this optimism for Bungies success prior to them being acquired by Sony 🤷‍♂️

I also criticized Destiny 2 before if you followed the official thread. But the numbers don't lie. Still one of the most popular games being played after almost a decade. The numbers goes back up in every major expansion. You can't argue that. Their gunplay is still excellent the problem is them rehashing old content and the grinding takes too much time. But something is there that keeps players going back to play new content until they have finished everything and they stop again.
 
Lightfall flopped, like most of the expansions. I’m surprised you never had this optimism for Bungies success prior to them being acquired by Sony 🤷‍♂️
Destiny 2 is #7 on Xbox which is a lot higher than some games that has been claimed to be super successful on Union.

I have no idea why anyone does play it though. Its crazy unfriendly to new or returning players.
 
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Doesn't sound good .

Rather they focus on SP with TLOU 3 and the new IP.


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Destiny 2 is #7 on Xbox which is a lot higher than some games that has been claimed to be super successful on Union.

I have no idea why anyone does play it though. Its crazy unfriendly to new or returning players.
I’m talking metacritic scores.
 
I also criticized Destiny 2 before if you followed the official thread. But the numbers don't lie. Still one of the most popular games being played after almost a decade. The numbers goes back up in every major expansion. You can't argue that. Their gunplay is still excellent the problem is them rehashing old content and the grinding takes too much time. But something is there that keeps players going back to play new content until they have finished everything and they stop again.
I did go look at your 5 posts in the official thread before Sony bought Bungie. Post purchase your posting in the same thread is up x100 😎
 
I did go look at your 5 posts in the official thread before Sony bought Bungie. Post purchase your posting in the same thread is up x100 😎



I took a break from union when I was playing both Destiny 1 and 2 so I wasn't as active so there's that too. I have spent thousands of hours in the franchise. Can't say the same for anything else really except maybe Overwatch 1 / 2 which is still lower in comparison.
 


I took a break from union when I was playing both Destiny 1 and 2 so I wasn't as active so there's that too. I have spent thousands of hours in the franchise. Can't say the same for anything else really except maybe Overwatch 1 / 2 which is still lower in comparison.

So you played a Sony owned game and of course it's better than a soon owned MS game lol
 
So going by the memes on twitter, Bungie saw the game and gave feedback which caused the scale down?
 
So you played a Sony owned game and of course it's better than a soon owned MS game lol

I played Destiny well before Bungie was acquired by Sony.

But I like how you're trying to assert console war narratives into here when these are just two games that I have played the most.

I actually still play OW2 but completely stopped Destiny. I guess that makes me a Xbot eh? 😉
 
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I also criticized Destiny 2 before if you followed the official thread. But the numbers don't lie. Still one of the most popular games being played after almost a decade. The numbers goes back up in every major expansion. You can't argue that. Their gunplay is still excellent the problem is them rehashing old content and the grinding takes too much time. But something is there that keeps players going back to play new content until they have finished everything and they stop again.
The numbers don't lie. They have a surge of users when then employ the old paid DLC model and constantly shrink under their Live service model. Lets also not forget they had to take the game F2P play too.

Guess what? Elden Ring will shoot back up the most played list when it releases new DLC too. This is just normal. It isn't Bungie's greatness.

I find it astonishing that Sony have made these guys the arbiter of their GaaS evolution. They don't make good decisions for their own game. Imagine how bad they'll be with some other studio's game. Lol.
 
Ok hear me out….

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What if the reason it got delayed is because it’s releasing on pc at launch or near it, like in the same year.

With all the hurt after the pc launch, that was Naughtydog’s first, they’d want to make sure it got through with the least amount of bugs…. so it could run on a pc as powerful as a ps4 but proably wont be released on ps4, cos they already got a lot on their plate
 
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