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Was at the local BJ's over the weekend and saw a Samsung 4K TV. First time I've seen one in person. I will say even with the crappy connections they have the TVs hooked up to the pic quality was night and day better than the 65" 1080P set right next to it. That being said still not enough to get me to upgrade my HD set. I didnt think the price was to bad either.
 
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When I saw one at Best Buy last year my jaw dropped. It was an amazing sight. I want one bad but it's going to be a decade until 4k content is delivered easily to the masses.
 

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Exactly, you can't even get 1080P for broadcast media now. It did look awesome, though, I'm more than happy with my "regular" HD TV :)
 

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Just think if Aliens hadn't crashed on this planet we wouldn't have been able to reverse engineer cool stuff like this.
 
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Yeah, 4K looks great, but at this point, its too forward thinking. There's not enough out there that can take advantage of it, and there wont be for a long time. Luckily, when there finally is, 4K will be much cheaper no doubt.
 

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geez that is a pretty good price and not bad at all. that seems like a pretty loaded TV so 3500 is not bad not bad at all for a 65 inch too. Anyway know how much download speed you'd need to stream a 4K movie or show?

One way to get 4K content is download like the first 10 mins of a movie then as you watch the rest is downloading.
 

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thats not a bad price at all, but pretty much worthless outside of "look at what I got"

for now anyway...
 

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Father in law has one. If power stays off more than tonight, I might just have to take the console over there
 

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I could definitely tell a big difference going from standard def. to 1080P and there is def. a big difference going from 1080 to 4K. There just isn't enough content to justify the purchase.
 

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I could definitely tell a big difference going from standard def. to 1080P and there is def. a big difference going from 1080 to 4K. There just isn't enough content to justify the purchase.

I hope they have super bluray a or some kind of pyhsical media for 4K, Netflix has some shows that can be streamed in 4K but they can't even match bluray quality in 1080p so don't know how much their 4K streaming is going to suck.
 

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I hope they have super bluray a or some kind of pyhsical media for 4K, Netflix has some shows that can be streamed in 4K but they can't even match bluray quality in 1080p so don't know how much their 4K streaming is going to suck.

Their streaming 4K stuff will prolly be 1080p quality :p
 

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Are there any movies, tv shows or tv channels that even support 4k feeds yet?
 

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Forget 4K streaming, Ultra HD Blu-ray licensing begins on August 24

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Good news just in for purveyors of high-resolution videos: The Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) has revealed it will begin licensing the new Ultra HD Blu-ray format from August 24, 2015.

Today’s news comes almost three months after the BDA issued the final specification for the new 4K physical-format media, revealing it would encompass 3,840 x 2,160 pixel resolution, provide high frame rate (up to 60fps), and cater for 66GB double-layer or 100GB triple-layer discs. That’s more than double that of the existing Blu-ray specification.

The new Ultra HD format comes almost ten years after the first Blu-ray discs went to market, but the video entertainment landscape has changed considerably since then. Streaming via the likes of Netflix, Amazon, Google, Hulu, and countless others has become the norm, and some of these services are now catering for 4K content too.

However, bandwidth congestion — including the associated network costs — may preclude many consumers from considering Ultra HD streaming. And this could make Ultra HD Blu-ray a more compelling proposition for some.

Of course, you will need to buy an Ultra HD Blu-ray machine to play the new format — some of the major manufacturers are expected to announce players later this year — and there’s the added expense of acquiring an Ultra HD TV (if you don’t already have one). The good news is that the new Ultra HD Blu-ray players will also be backwards compatible with normal Blu-ray discs, so you won’t have to update your entire movie collection.

While it’s not clear how much demand there will be for the new format, the BDA, citing data from IHS technology, reckons Ultra HD TV-owning households will grow from 11.7 million last year to 95.6 million by 2019.

With licensing opening in less than three weeks, the BDA says it anticipates product announcements shortly after — certainly well in time for Christmas.

“Ultra HD Blu-ray enables the delivery of an unparalleled, consistent, and repeatable experience that will set the standard for Ultra HD entertainment, the same way Blu-ray Disc did for high-definition viewing,” explained Victor Matsuda, chair of the BDA Promotions Committee, in a press release. “With the commencement of licensing we would anticipate product announcements from various companies as we approach the 2015 holiday season.”

FINALLY! I am ready upgraded my set to HDMI 2.0/HDCP2.2/WebOS and got a new AVR that does HDMI 2.0 60fps/HDCP2.2/DD Atmos and been streaming 4K but want Uncompressed Picture and Sound.

Plan on being a early adopter hopefully they won't be to costly :)


Oh and here is a leaked pic from June........

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Next gen consoles need this too! Time for a hardware revision
 

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ld-school optical media will look a little sharper with the arrival of Ultra HD Blu-ray discs this holiday season.

The Blu-ray Disc Association says it will start licensing the 4K video format on August 24, and anticipates “product announcements from various companies” as the holidays approach. Presumably that includes both the Blu-ray players and the Ultra HD discs on which to play them. While some Blu-ray players already offer 4K upscaling, the scaling algorithm can make images look either more jagged or blurrier than native 4K playback.

Beyond just the resolution boost to 3840-by-2160, the Ultra HD Blu-ray format offers an expanded color range and framerates up to 60 frames per second. It will also support high dynamic range video, provided you have a TV and content that supports it. Ultra HD Blu-ray players will be backwards-compatible for playing 1080p Blu-ray discs as well.

Also interesting is the Blu-ray Disc Association’s plan for a “digital bridge” feature, which will let users create an authorized digital copy from the disc.

The specifics on digital bridge still aren’t clear, but as ExtremeTech reports, users might be able to load movies onto a hard drive and watch them while they’re connected to the Blu-ray player, eliminating the need to swap discs. Users may also be able to export a copy to other “authorized” devices, such as phones, tablets, and portable hard drives. (Some Blu-ray discs already include a digital copy with strict digital rights management, or allow users to stream the movie to supported apps through UltraViolet.)

Why this matters: So far, the establishment of Ultra HD has largely fallen to streaming services such as Netflix, Amazon, and YouTube. But streaming in this format requires a lot more bandwidth, with Netflix recommending 25Mbps for Ultra HD versus 5Mbps for HD. While optical discs are clearly on the decline, they’ll likely remain the best option for videophiles with limited bandwidth or data caps.
 

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I doubt its possible, but it would be neat-o if they could include the HD as well as UHD on the same disc, so you could transition easier.
 

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IFA 2015 preview - Ultra HD Blu-ray, 4K TV, hi-res audio and more

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One of the biggest stories to come out of IFA 2015 is likely to be the launch of the first Ultra HD Blu-ray products. If you've been waiting on a 4K disc format, the good news is it's coming - and it's likely IFA will see the first official products revealed.

After confirmation of the disc logo and spec, we then got word from Panasonic that the first compatible products were on target for a September launch. Following the news last week that the BDA is beginning the licensing process, everything looks to be on track.

With the likes of LG, Samsung, Panasonic, Pioneer and Sony all members of the Blu-ray Disc Association, we'd hope to see 4K players from a number of different manufacturers. Panasonic revealed a prototype 4K player at CES this year, so all eyes are on IFA for the finished product.

http://www.whathifi.com/news/ifa-2015-preview-ultra-hd-blu-ray-4k-tv-hi-res-audio-and-more
 

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Samsung UBD-K8500 coming 2016....



The UBD-K8500 will be the first actual product of its kind, although Panasonic did announce a prototype at CES this year.

The exact pricing hasn't been announced yet, but Samsung says it will cost less than $500, and will be available in the US and Europe in early 2016.

Ultra high definition TVs are beginning to release now, we just have to wait a few more months before the players come out.




http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/09/04/samsung-unveils-ultra-high-definition-blu-ray-player
 

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$499.99 is less than $500.

Fox reveals first 4K blu-ray tittles.
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=17520

Exodus: Gods and Kings
Kingsman: The Secret Service
Fantastic Four (LOL :yawn:)
X-Men: Days of Future Past
Life of Pi
The Maze Runner
Wild
 
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They don't have close to the muscle to do current gen quality games in 4K(maybe mobile quality like shield does)
As far as movies I know the HDMI spec is below what Ultra BR requires but am not sure if they can get around this somehow? Also am not sure if the storage capacity can be increased to UHDBR sizes.

Word is a bunch of UHDBR players will be shown either today or 2morrow @ CES.
 
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