What Dev will go under next?

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I expect Deck 13 Interactive to go under next... Even though they shoot for AAA, their games fall way short of high-end goodness

I can't believe The Surge (Very dumb name) is already down to $23.99 with the PSN sale... That game came out just a few months ago. Of course at $60 it didn't light the sales charts on fire

I can't believe they are even making a sequel to The Lords of the Fallen... That game wasn't anything great either. So I fear they will go under next... Their kind of games just don't look all that good, don't sell all that well, and it seems like almost no one cares about them.

Who do you think will go under next?
 
Naughty Dog.

But no seriously.... If Anthem doesn't work Bioware are in trouble with EA.
 
The Wolf King said:
Naughty Dog.

But no seriously.... If Anthem doesn't work Bioware are in trouble with EA.
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Isn’t there like two or three bioware teams, besides the original? Those other studios, two in Canada and the other in Texas (I believe) were simply given the name after ea purchased and released mass effect 2? Like how there’s two rockstar studios, the one that rolls out the GTA series and the one in San Diego which have developed the Red Dead series?

Anyways, those other bioware studios I believe may get the ax or merged with other studios.
 
Theres one working on Anthem and another working on the next Dragon Age. As long as Anthem arrives next year that one will be ok.
..if its delayed though.

Devs likely to go under first are probably some 'helper' studio that makes the campaign of a large multiplayer title

Striking that, Media Molecule, Sony Bend depending on which game releases first. ReAgent games.
 
Housemarque of Resogun & Dead Nation fame just put out a statement that they are done making arcade titles. They said that while their games enjoyed great critical acclaim that didn't translate into high sales numbers. They will now shift development over to multiplayer focused titles. I hope they don't go under but instead find the success that they deserve. I also wish I had supported them better since I did skip their last two titles that released over the past summer.
 
karmakid said:
Isn’t there like two or three bioware teams, besides the original? Those other studios, two in Canada and the other in Texas (I believe) were simply given the name after ea purchased and released mass effect 2? Like how there’s two rockstar studios, the one that rolls out the GTA series and the one in San Diego which have developed the Red Dead series?

Anyways, those other bioware studios I believe may get the ax or merged with other studios.
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EA already did that with Bioware Montreal http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...udio-bioware-montreal-to-merge-into-ea-motive
 
karmakid said:
Isn’t there like two or three bioware teams, besides the original? Those other studios, two in Canada and the other in Texas (I believe) were simply given the name after ea purchased and released mass effect 2? Like how there’s two rockstar studios, the one that rolls out the GTA series and the one in San Diego which have developed the Red Dead series?

Anyways, those other bioware studios I believe may get the ax or merged with other studios.
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The one in Texas is doing SW:TOR mostly (or exclusively?) and it seems like it was still going fairly well last I checked.
 
Mike O'War said:
I expect Deck 13 Interactive to go under next... Even though they shoot for AAA, their games fall way short of high-end goodness

I can't believe The Surge (Very dumb name) is already down to $23.99 with the PSN sale... That game came out just a few months ago. Of course at $60 it didn't light the sales charts on fire

I can't believe they are even making a sequel to The Lords of the Fallen... That game wasn't anything great either. So I fear they will go under next... Their kind of games just don't look all that good, don't sell all that well, and it seems like almost no one cares about them.

Who do you think will go under next?
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Lords of the Fallen was very under rated though. Personally I loved it. I bought it on PS4 and again on Xbox. I’m glad to see another one is coming.
 
Going by the latest news.... Housemarque.

They should have spread their wings and release all their indie games for all platforms. Would have made a killing.
 
I have no idea how well the Gears franchise is doing since Microsoft won't release sales. But having Coalition making Gears only games (compared to what it could have been with Black Tusk), I feel like if Gears 5 isn't a big hit, MS could dump Coalition.

I could be way wrong here. But sometimes I feel like some games have seen their prime. Uncharted, Gears, Forza Motorsport, etc. I think Gran Turismo 7 was a sure fire way to close PD if they kept the same formula. I think it's good that they changed to a new direction with GT Sport. Some things do get stale, people get older, tastes change, gamers change.

I don't know.
 
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I have no idea how well the Gears franchise is doing since Microsoft won't release sales. But having Coalition making Gears only games (compared to what it could have been with Black Tusk), I feel like if Gears 5 isn't a big hit, MS could dump Coalition.

I could be way wrong here. But sometimes I feel like some games have seen their prime. Uncharted, Gears, Forza Motorsport, etc. I think Gran Turismo 7 was a sure fire way to close PD if they kept the same formula. I think it's good that they changed to a new direction with GT Sport. Some things do get stale, people get older, tastes change, gamers change.

I don't know.
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Things get stale because devs don't do anything, it isn't the game.

Take Forza 7 for example: the career is the same old thing presented slightly different. Look at the tracklist, not a single new track. Look at the car list, it has been bloated by cars that have no business being in the game and got added simply because it required minimal effort. There are no new modes. No improvemt to the online systems to keep races clean and fun.

It is just lazy IMO.

They are destroying their own game.
 
menace-uk- said:
Things get stale because devs don't do anything, it isn't the game.

Take Forza 7 for example: the career is the same old thing presented slightly different. Look at the tracklist, not a single new track. Look at the car list, it has been bloated by cars that have no business being in the game and got added simply because it required minimal effort. There are no new modes. No improvemt to the online systems to keep races clean and fun.

It is just lazy IMO.

They are destroying their own game.
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After spending more and more time with FM7 I am in agreement. They are doing EXACTLY what PD did with GT.
 
Hedon said:
I have no idea how well the Gears franchise is doing since Microsoft won't release sales. But having Coalition making Gears only games (compared to what it could have been with Black Tusk), I feel like if Gears 5 isn't a big hit, MS could dump Coalition.
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Bottom line is revenue generated. Some games that don't sell well can generate significant revenue particularly in an age of loot crates which are ludicrously profitable, because unlike a map pack which you buy only once, a whale might purchase 32 Gold packs with real money ($30)....once he's opened them, he's slightly closer to unlocking everything, but he don't know you'll need another 480 gold packs to unlock everything....so if he bought new at $60 and spent $30 on loot crates which are consumable it's the equivilent of selling the game for $90.

Then they add new content and you're 10% further away again.

Gears 4 took 3 years to develop and in part was offset by the remake of Gears 1. If they stick to 3 years and loot crates and maintain it will be ok.

If they start dicking around and take 5 years and cull the multiplayer it's over.

Hedon said:
I could be way wrong here. But sometimes I feel like some games have seen their prime. Uncharted, Gears, Forza Motorsport, etc. I think Gran Turismo 7 was a sure fire way to close PD if they kept the same formula. I think it's good that they changed to a new direction with GT Sport. Some things do get stale, people get older, tastes change, gamers change.
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You would think and then theres Madden, FIFA, Mario,Mario Kart, Zelda, CoD, Assassins Creed trucking along for 10,20,30 years. Arguably they all peaked last gen in sales, but after 10-15 entries they can't all be on the rise. The key is that the're regular. Call of Duty fans are the happiest on Earth. It's new every year and jam packed. Don't like WW2? Only 6 months and the next one is annouced and set in the future.

5 year projects kills studios and the fastest way to kill IPs is not to release games in that IP.
 
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Nintendo has kept their franchises going by not always rehashing. Breath of the Wild is going to be the biggest Zelda ever because its so different than the rest. Nintendo doesn't need to be so shortsighted and pump the same game out every year.
 
yankeessuck said:
Nintendo has kept their franchises going by not always rehashing. Breath of the Wild is going to be the biggest Zelda ever because its so different than the rest. Nintendo doesn't need to be so shortsighted and pump the same game out every year.
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So would you agree Orcarina of Time, Majoras Mask, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword offered less innovation than Breath of the Wild?
 
Sasquatch Montana said:
So would you agree Orcarina of Time, Majoras Mask, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword offered less innovation than Breath of the Wild?
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I wouldn't agree that is just why I said it feels different. They could just keep remaking OoT and Super Mario 64 but they don't and now they are as relevant as they have ever been. You talked about franchises peaking but Zelda has just hit its peak 30 years later. Although it did take more than 3 years to develop so Nintendo should fire everyone and cancel the series.
 
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I wouldn't agree that is just why I said it feels different. They could just keep remaking OoT and Super Mario 64 but they don't
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I believe both of those games were remade for Gamecube and both DS

yankeessuck said:
You talked about franchises peaking but Zelda has just hit its peak 30 years later
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Persistance with the same IP does pay off.

yankeessuck said:
Although it did take more than 3 years to develop so Nintendo should fire everyone and cancel the series.
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Well it took 5 years on a WiiU budget. Can't say i'll be drowning in brand new 3d Zelda games, which if I were a Zelda fan (I prefer Mario) would be a shame. I know Mass Effect, Deus Ex, Dead Space,DMC,Hitman, Fable Fans and many others feel the same.
 
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I think the coalition is safe. Some observations lead me to believe the gears of war fanbase has a lot of overlap with people that are definitely into buying random content drops over and over. Just anecdotal evidence though.

For indie devs, I wouldn't know where to start. Outside of the news they give us (like housemarque) there's too many and I never follow any anyway.

For high profile devs, my guesses are crytek and capcom. I don't even know what crytek is doing nowadays. They're not like epic, surviving through few long lasting games and licensing out an engine. They haven't done anything in the public eye since ryse.

Capcom I almost hope sells off its property or gets bought. Would never want people to lose their jobs, but the decade of constantly ruining their newer ip's and remastering resident evil over and over and over again have got me peeved. They had amazing and unique games and what do they do? an mmo only in japan for dragons dogma, a dead space rip off/failure in lost planet, remasters of old games to "gauge interest" in future installments, then of course never panning out there because sales for a remastered 2d sidescroller didn't match call of duty.

Resident evil 7s success seems to have stalled things but I don't think they know what they're doing anymore. If monster hunter ends up tanking, I can only imagine the company will follow not long after.
I'm just mad salty about them f***ing over every good thing they ever had.
 
Hedon said:
I think Gran Turismo 7 was a sure fire way to close PD if they kept the same formula.
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You thought Polyphony would close down after GT5 sold 11 million copies and GT6 sold 6 million copies? If a traditional Gran Turismo 7 sold negative 5 million copies, which isn't possible, that means Polyphony sold 12 million copies in their last three games.

I think if any studio can handle a few bombas, it would be them.
 
The Sunset Limited said:
You thought Polyphony would close down after GT5 sold 11 million copies and GT6 sold 6 million copies? If a traditional Gran Turismo 7 sold negative 5 million copies, which isn't possible, that means Polyphony sold 12 million copies in their last three games.

I think if any studio can handle a few bombas, it would be them.
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Studios arent given grace based on their past hits though (unless its a constant ongoing money generator like GTA that also requires ongoing maintenance)

They're assessed at the end of each project and decided if another a sequel is worth the squeeze. If they arent its a New IP or layoff time if the project was mismanaged
 
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Studios arent given grace based on their past hits though (unless its a constant ongoing money generator like GTA that also requires ongoing maintenance)

They're assessed at the end of each project and decided if another a sequel is worth the squeeze. If they arent its New IP or layoff time if the project was mismanaged.
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Yeah, I just don't agree with that. Agree to disagree.
 
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