I believe Nvdia drivers updates are good, but AMD, not so much. Next time, I will return to Nvdia, for various reasons. Nvdia never let me down.
What's more important, game resolutions/performance or entertainment features?
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I believe Nvdia drivers updates are good, but AMD, not so much. Next time, I will return to Nvdia, for various reasons. Nvdia never let me down.
I did but the majority wanted to stick with what they knew and most of them are casual gamers and only a couple like myself follow gaming more closely so the couple of us said OK we will stick with XBOX.
I don't regret my decision but wish MS had opted for more power over KINECT at this point. We will see what the future holds and hope KINECT become more important other than voice OS navigation and instant switching which is all I use it for at the moment.
Its ok, its more enjoyable to play with your real friends than some random people on the internet. Even if I like the other console, if I game mainly MP & with my friends, the choice is clear to me. Which is to stick to the console my friends wanted to play.
This is a very good reason indeed.
Flynn reasoning of taking a few extra seconds less to sign in/or recognize your controllers on xbox being more important than playing many games at higher res/fps in actual game session that can last hours, however, is comical.
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But downloading drivers is.....easy.
I mean, if you could log into live or ps4 to download a demo...you could download a driver. I find it an odd excuse to ding against PCs.
I had problem with my AMD driver. Basically it can't download the latest driver using the software given by AMD, this Catalyst Control center. Everything said I have the latest, when it was 2 years old. So I try to get the latest driver from AMD website. Install & every time, I got 'incompatible with my card' error message. So I went online & did a search, & was told to delete the existing driver to force the lastest driver to be able to installed to the default one. Rebooted, & it never able to boot to window, not even in safe mode.
Long story short, end up I have to send it back to the shop clean my hardisk, & re-install windows & the standard software that came with the laptop.
End up spending a few weeks to set up my PC, download all my software & try to customize the UI, find the plugin ins. A lot of my scripts I made, or downloaded for Maya were lost.
The moral of the story is avoid installing the disk that comes with hardware. Go online and get the driver you need. Find the option with the minimum amount of bloatware (ie just the driver). You don't need bloated software running 24/7 checking for driver updates every 5 minutes.
That's why I said it depends on what you include. I think the 360 being able to play music while playing games is a good example of multimedia multitasking.
I'd rather have gaming performance above all else so I can enjoy my games on my gaming console. If media features are added after the fact cool.
Sounds good to me. Still, if you find yourself wanting another platform for whatever reason, I strongly urge you to research current PC gaming. It's a lot more streamlined and stable than it was even 3 years ago, let alone 8+. At least it is with Nvidia cards...
AMD driver support SUCKS with a capital S.U.C.K.S.
My last AMD card I got was the week Diablo 3 released. I needed a new card to play it at 60fps and I got a decent (Radeon 5770 IIRC) card for like $80. I used it for about 3 months before I was over a friends house and he said "OH, there's a new driver, I'll just download it now". I went about asking if he really wanted to go through all the hassle of uninstalling the drivers, restarting in safe mode and running driver cleaner then restarting again to install the new drivers.
He said "Of course not, that's why I went with Nvidia". Three clicks later he had a new driver installed and working flawlessly. The next day I went and bought an Nvidia card (GTX 660 IIRC). Been with Nvidia ever since and will never go back to AMD no matter how good their price : performance is their drivers suck.
S.U.C.K.
Get an Nvidia card and solve all those problems. I don't care how good mantle is (in the very few games it's supported) it's not worth the small bump in performance for the hassle of those god awful drivers.
If you define yourself as a "gamer", you shouldn't care about hardware. Graphics both matter and dont matter. Super Mario 3D Land on the 3Ds is brilliant and just as fun as anything. Super Meat Boy is one of the best games I've played in a long time. The game Ive played the most on my PS4 is Dont Starve, and its not because its melting my face off with pixels.
Gaming should be about games. The amount of games using pixel art is a pretty strong indication that graphics are simply a means to express someones vision.
Each system is a separate entity and should be treated as such. I will never understand the incessant need for people to make a purchase and have to scream from the mountain top that the thing you chose is better than the thing someone else chose. Each one is providing me with different experiences and each is equally valuable.
I can have just as much fun with New Super Mario Bros on the Wii U as I will with Infamous on the PS4, or any other game for that matter.
You can sit and tell me all you want the the barely perceptible differences in Tomb Raider are a game changer for you, but I don't believe it for a second.
Gaming should be about games. The amount of games using pixel art is a pretty strong indication that graphics are simply a means to express someones vision.
Each system is a separate entity and should be treated as such. I will never understand the incessant need for people to make a purchase and have to scream from the mountain top that the thing you chose is better than the thing someone else chose. Each one is providing me with different experiences and each is equally valuable.
I can have just as much fun with New Super Mario Bros on the Wii U as I will with Infamous on the PS4, or any other game for that matter.
You can sit and tell me all you want the the barely perceptible differences in Tomb Raider are a game changer for you, but I don't believe it for a second.
Yes & No.
Yes.
Not every game need to be visually stunning, that's clear. Some of the most fun game I have are not pretty, pixelled etc. Even some Mobile 2D games are fun, & do not need to looks better.
But for some games that try to create a believable world & character, being stunning & more realistic, rain, water, particle smoke effect can enhance the experience. Its not the most important thing, but it play a part in the overall experience.
Its like asking why people wanted to watch a movie in a good cinema, or in HD instead of standard, when its the same movie. simple answer is a better cinema with good quality screen & sound enhance the experience. But would I go to good cinema to watch a lousy show then a lessor cinema for a good show. No I wouldn't.
Now looking back at the topic, when 90% or so of the games will be available for both consoles, its not unreasonable to pick one that are runs better, is it?
And if you truly cared about getting the most realistic world you would buy a PC and wouldn't bother with a console. The console wars are like two guys, one with a four inch dick and the other with a 4.2 inch dick arguing about whose dick is bigger when they are both standing next to John Holmes.
Its not unreasonable to pick anything. Everyone picks something for their own reasons. No reason is more valid than another and the constant arguments are meaningless.
If imperceptible differences in pixel count (Coming from a bunch of people that couldn't tell one of their exclusives wass't actually 1080p) are what matter most to you, sure. Go for it.
The same way someone being able to skype with their family WHILE playing Tomb Raider might be important to someone else.
Its not unreasonable to pick anything. Everyone picks something for their own reasons. No reason is more valid than another and the constant arguments are meaningless.
If imperceptible differences in pixel count (Coming from a bunch of people that couldn't tell one of their exclusives wass't actually 1080p) are what matter most to you, sure. Go for it.
The same way someone being able to skype with their family WHILE playing Tomb Raider might be important to someone else.
Yes, but many people do not game on PC, so its not a straight comparison. The way you would not compare tablet spec to Laptop & ask the person why not just get a laptop. There is a certain charm to siting on your sofa to play, without worry about finding the right setting & have the latest drivers, just like there is a certain charm to able to carry around a notebook size tablet to use which you are laying in bed, or waiting for someone in a cafe. Beside that some games are not available on PC, that you may want to play.
It doesn't matter how many people game on PC. PC has the graphics and the entertainment features consoles could never dream to have. But I get what you are saying. As you say, it's like comparing laptops to tablets and smartphones. Simply put, PC is a league of it owns, and it would be unfair to draw comparisons to the gimped and lesser, the game consoles.
I never used Netflix or any of that sh!t on my PS3, X360 and PS4. I couldn't care less.
The primary function of these consoles is GAMING. So f*ck yes I'd prefer better performance/resolution to sh!tty "entertainment features" on the side. That's just me, though.
The primary function of these consoles is GAMING. So f*ck yes I'd prefer better performance/resolution to sh!tty "entertainment features" on the side. That's just me, though.