Wonder Woman 1984, WW2 - Christmas, 2020 In Theaters And HBO Max

Liked it better than the first one but that's not saying much, it seemed more like a Maxwell Lord movie than WW and damn did it seem long.

Edit: Thought about it more and I don't like it more than the first one after all, the more I think about it the more I hate it lol.
 
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I didn't care for the first movie, I thought a lot of it was over hyped because people wanted to jump on the "girl power" social media train. It had it's moments like when they actually had fight scenes but I thought it moved too slow. The little bit of action in this new movie is poorly done and there isn't enough of it. I still don't know why WB continues to struggle with the VFX in their movies, Aquaman looked great because it had a specific style but other than Man of Steel almost all of their other movies struggle with the CGI and they have some of the worst greenscreen work around, nothing seems to blend in properly. Sadly I've even seen some trying to pretend the VFX in this movie were purposely bad to match what was possible in 1984 lol.
 
Movie was okay, but too damn long.

Movie could have easily been trimmed down to 2 hours. Also, for being set in the 80s, they really failed with the soundtrack.

that being said, I miss going to the movies. Hopefully this time next year we will be able to go to the movies.
 
This was so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so bad. A mess from top to bottom. Atrocious writing, nonsensicle characters spewing nonsensicle dialogue, messy plots that repeatedly drop main characters from the movie, un-engaging CGI slowmo action with no sense of reality or tension, completely pointless '80's era setting, ugly unrealistic set design, and the most off-putting bizarre Hollywood "preaching to normals" scene I've ever seen in film. I'd say don't waste your time, but it's such a dumpster fire it's almost worth experiencing.

I hope the Star Wars team hasn't finalized the Rogue Squadron contract yet. Yikes.
 
Imagine a Superman sequel where Lois had died in the previous film but was allowed to come back by taking over a random woman's body, Clark knowing this proceeded to have sex with her several times and repeatedly put that woman's life in danger, would the social media mob have been ok with that? would that movie even get made? The owner of the body lost a week, had sex they didn't consent to and were put in a position where they could have been killed several times yet it's perfectly ok because it's a guy.
 
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Imagine a Superman sequel where Lois had died in the previous film but was allowed to come back by taking over a random woman's body, Clark knowing this proceeded to have sex with her several times and repeatedly put that woman's life in danger, would the social media mob have been ok with that? would that movie even get made? The owner of the body lost a week, had sex they didn't consent to and was put in a position where they could have been killed several times yet it's perfectly ok because it's a guy.
No
 
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Movie was okay, but too damn long.

Movie could have easily been trimmed down to 2 hours. Also, for being set in the 80s, they really failed with the soundtrack.

that being said, I miss going to the movies. Hopefully this time next year we will be able to go to the movies.
This is my problem with so many movies nowadays. Action movies should be 90/95 mins max!
 
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This is my problem with so many movies nowadays. Action movies should be 90/95 mins max!
The common argument is that movies need to earn every minute beyond the 90 min mark.

Recently, I've been watching a lot of movies from the 1930's through 1960's range. I'm consistently shocked by how many "classics" from their respective genres in this range have run times under 90 mins. In some cases, run times well under 90 mins. Many of the classic Universal monster movies are in the 60 to 70 min range, and still keep your attention 80 to 90 years later.

You'd hope the industry shifting to streaming over theater experiences would help decrease run times, as movies don't feel like they need to earn the ticket price. Unfortunately, it seems like a lot of the bigger budget direct to streaming films have little to no editing in place, and run times are actually increasing. Hopefully critics and viewers push back on this phenomena, not every dumb idea and scene filmed needs to be included. Proper editing and concise story telling is an art as well.
 
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This is my problem with so many movies nowadays. Action movies should be 90/95 mins max!
The problem with that line of thinking is this isn't an action movie, there is hardly any action in it at all and what's there isn't as good as the action in the first one. I went back and watched the action scenes from the first movie and they were way better than the ones here, hell the mall scene almost looks like it could have been a soda commercial.
 
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That opening scene in the mall is so bad.
Apparently WB wanted Jenkins to cut either the mall scene or the scene with the Amazon Olympics, they felt two opening scenes weren't needed and she refused to cut either one. Honestly I think she could have cut both scenes and it wouldn't have made the movie any worse it just would have made it 20 minutes shorter which would have been a good thing.
 
Apparently WB wanted Jenkins to cut either the mall scene or the scene with the Amazon Olympics, they felt two opening scenes weren't needed and she refused to cut either one. Honestly I think she could have cut both scenes and it wouldn't have made the movie any worse it just would have made it 20 minutes shorter which would have been a good thing.
At least the Olympics scene had pretty good music
 
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The common argument is that movies need to earn every minute beyond the 90 min mark.

Recently, I've been watching a lot of movies from the 1930's through 1960's range. I'm consistently shocked by how many "classics" from their respective genres in this range have run times under 90 mins. In some cases, run times well under 90 mins. Many of the classic Universal monster movies are in the 60 to 70 min range, and still keep your attention 80 to 90 years later.

You'd hope the industry shifting to streaming over theater experiences would help decrease run times, as movies don't feel like they need to earn the ticket price. Unfortunately, it seems like a lot of the bigger budget direct to streaming films have little to no editing in place, and run times are actually increasing. Hopefully critics and viewers push back on this phenomena, not every dumb idea and scene filmed needs to be included. Proper editing and concise story telling is an art as well.
Doesn't matter how long a movie is if it is neccessary. Today movies are just bloated with unneccessary scenes. To me it seems the industry has this weird idea that the longer the movie the more artsy, itelligent, or meaningful it is.
 
So essentially it’s the chick ghostbusters flop.
 
The more I think about it the more I don’t like WW84. Basically the same sentiments as Jin and U2. The whole way that Steve is brought back?!? Come on, the dream stone is fuqin magic, just pop him back in existence. Diana is supposed to be the paragon of integrity. How is it that DC has such a hard time with decent SFX? The final fight scene quality in particular with Cheetah is horrendous. The third act is utter crap and the end...can’t seem to close a WW movie.
 
The common argument is that movies need to earn every minute beyond the 90 min mark.

Recently, I've been watching a lot of movies from the 1930's through 1960's range. I'm consistently shocked by how many "classics" from their respective genres in this range have run times under 90 mins. In some cases, run times well under 90 mins. Many of the classic Universal monster movies are in the 60 to 70 min range, and still keep your attention 80 to 90 years later.

You'd hope the industry shifting to streaming over theater experiences would help decrease run times, as movies don't feel like they need to earn the ticket price. Unfortunately, it seems like a lot of the bigger budget direct to streaming films have little to no editing in place, and run times are actually increasing. Hopefully critics and viewers push back on this phenomena, not every dumb idea and scene filmed needs to be included. Proper editing and concise story telling is an art as well.
In class those movies were days long
 
The common argument is that movies need to earn every minute beyond the 90 min mark.

Recently, I've been watching a lot of movies from the 1930's through 1960's range. I'm consistently shocked by how many "classics" from their respective genres in this range have run times under 90 mins. In some cases, run times well under 90 mins. Many of the classic Universal monster movies are in the 60 to 70 min range, and still keep your attention 80 to 90 years later.

You'd hope the industry shifting to streaming over theater experiences would help decrease run times, as movies don't feel like they need to earn the ticket price. Unfortunately, it seems like a lot of the bigger budget direct to streaming films have little to no editing in place, and run times are actually increasing. Hopefully critics and viewers push back on this phenomena, not every dumb idea and scene filmed needs to be included. Proper editing and concise story telling is an art as well.
“The length of a film should be directly related to the endurance of the human bladder.” ― Alfred Hitchcock
 
The more I think about it the more I don’t like WW84. Basically the same sentiments as Jin and U2. The whole way that Steve is brought back?!? Come on, the dream stone is fuqin magic, just pop him back in existence. Diana is supposed to be the paragon of integrity. How is it that DC has such a hard time with decent SFX? The final fight scene quality in particular with Cheetah is horrendous. The third act is utter crap and the end...can’t seem to close a WW movie.
Its just mostly dull