Xbox One to outsell PlayStation 4 a Baird analyst says...

Of course it's speculation, but so is trying to lay claim that Sony lost market share due to 360.

I fully understand market share...what I'm saying is that there are several factors to account for when looking at why market share was lost.

Calling Sony losers for doing as well as their competitor while not doing as well as their older product, without fully seeing the big picture is a bit unfair.

If anything, considering the higher cost at release, it being a blu ray player AND it being out a full year less than the 360...and it doing about as well, tells me Sony did pretty well for themselves.

Expecting Sony to do as well as previous gen and not considering the ever changing gaming population tells me some people don't understand some of the reasons why Sony didn't do as well.

The success of the Wii shows us where the majority of console gamers went.

I don't have any argument with any of that. Loss of market share is one issue. Why Sony lost market share is a different issue, and we can all think of possible reasons there.

I'm not making any judgments about it, calling them "losers" or whatnot, so I don't think it's an issue of being unfair, at least for me. I guess you're addressing other people, earlier in the thread. I'm just being descriptive. Sony's market share dropped by a huge margin this generation. That's just an indisputable fact. No judgment, just numbers.

I think the "fall from grace" has been good for them. Not financially, but in terms of humbling them and reorienting them to their main priority, which is offering a product that appeals to the market. They are doing a much better job of that, this time around.
 
Using "market share loss" to call Sony losers even though they did as well as 360 with a year less on the market and costing more......would be like me calling Halo 4 losers for not selling as much as Halo 3, even though Halo 4 did better than most games.
 
Qbert, I don't think a change in "market share" implies that it's the same people, now buying different things. "Market share" means only that -- the percentage of the market that a particular company holds. If from one generation to the next, a company claims less of the total market than they did the previous generation, then they've lost market share, even if the two generations have no gamers in common whatsoever. It's just about percentage of the market.

The factseses, they burnses our eyes, they do, my precious! Filthy, tricksy mod!

I think my updated real takeaway from all of this is that if there are such wildly diverting opinions of what happened (past tense) this generation, it's pretty stupid to think anyone will know definitively what will happen (future tense) for the upcoming generation. Luckily, this is the time where stupid is in abundant supply. :)
 
Does anyone else scoff at the idea that the average age of today's gamer is 30 years old?

I think it's more that the average gamer is 38 but two-thirds of them have an 8-year-old alter ago as their internet identify, which brings the average down slightly.