The End of the World: A Political Thread. A New Hope coming soon!

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I hope that is just a synopsis.
Pretty much how the climate is here now after naive politicans killed our military force, let the police force almost die and made idiotic choices in regards to migration when Syria exploded.
The pendulum always swings in the opposite direction at some point, too bad it's a long swing with full force coming now... extreme right and xenophobia will take over within 10 years. Not good at all but that's what happens when people living in their own little paradise above everyone else makes what the feel are rightful and humane choices for us living in the real world.
 
Pretty much how the climate is here now after naive politicans killed our military force, let the police force almost die and made idiotic choices in regards to migration when Syria exploded.
The pendulum always swings in the opposite direction at some point, too bad it's a long swing with full force coming now... extreme right and xenophobia will take over within 10 years. Not good at all but that's what happens when people living in their own little paradise above everyone else makes what the feel are rightful and humane choices for us living in the real world.
s*** will hit the fan soon enough. What I hope is that the damage is not irreversible. This investigation regardless of how guilty Trump turns out to be will not change a thing since Congress has opted to look the other way.
 
I wish we'd just get serious and people would start paying attention and stop falling for the same crap every election.

Anti choice people aren't in it to control women's bodies, I disagree with their stance but their motivation isn't to hold women down

Democrats aren't trying to abolish the 2nd amendment

Wanting immigration laws that make sense for the people of this country isn't racist

Allowing gay people to marry isn't forcing anything on anyone else

Protecting the water and air doesn't only keep liberals healthy

Corporations NEVER pay the top tax rate, many pay no taxes on billions in profit

Medicare for all can work and would end up being cheaper than the system we have now

Cutting military spending doesn't mean cutting soldiers wages

A living wage should be paid to people who work

At some point we are going to have to get real about automation and job outsourcing and what it means for people who live in our country and the businesses that depend on people here having the money to buy their products.

Instead what we get are a bunch of "he is this, she is that, they are trying to do this" and we go through it every f'ng time and it's frustrating as f***!
 
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This is crazy, all of those "news organizations" should be ashamed, hell they are 24 hour channels and they think talking about a celebrity with known mental issues saying something stupid is more important than revealing that we were lied to about how many thousands of people died in PR. Also how is it that these channels have the same talking heads on every night regardless of what the topic of discussion is?
 
Remove hatred, stop listening or watch any media that fill hatred to you, stop believing that the other side is evil, & all their stands are evil. Have an open mind & listen to why they support what they support. I can guarantee you, there has nothing to do with evil, despite what people want you to believe. It just attempts to stop people from having a conversation.

How would I know, because I have an open mind, & willing to listen, & believe most people have good intentions, which is in fact in line with reality. I know both side of arguments of prochoice/life, Gun pro/anti, Open border/strict immigration & more, and they all have their good points.
 
Remove hatred, stop listening or watch any media that fill hatred to you, stop believing that the other side is evil, & all their stands are evil. Have an open mind & listen to why they support what they support. I can guarantee you, there has nothing to do with evil, despite what people want you to believe. It just attempts to stop people from having a conversation.

How would I know, because I have an open mind, & willing to listen, & believe most people have good intentions, which is in fact in line with reality. I know both side of arguments of prochoice/life, Gun pro/anti, Open border/strict immigration & more, and they all have their good points.
Maybe if we're talking about real Conservatives. Trumpers on the other hand I don't think this is possible. Nothing but trolls that only care that "stupid snowflake libturds" are being hurt or screwed over, even if it means they hurt themselves in the long run.
 
Maybe if we're talking about real Conservatives. Trumpers on the other hand I don't think this is possible. Nothing but trolls that only care that "stupid snowflake libturds" are being hurt or screwed over, even if it means they hurt themselves in the long run.
I think you have a red tinted lens of the left, you mean to say people from the radical left don't feel the same, if not worst?

From an outsider, & someone who spend the last 3 years studying indoctrination & influence, what I see is media manipulating minds of people. This is not just in the US, but across all Western Media. During the prime of Refugee crisis in 2015, many news network reports of massive fights, & rapes in refugee camps, Government stepped in, suddenly all the reports disappeared. The justification is to prevent anti. refugee views.

We are not seeing in these networks, what is happening in the world, we are seeing what they want us to see, what they want us to think. Anything doesn't fit their narrative, will never be shown, this applies to all most MSM, including Fox, just so you ask.

I am old enough to remember news network reporting news, Now, I mostly see anchors spend 20% reporting news, 80% talking about their 'opinions' of the news. Why would a network spend time talking about their opinions? Because that is how they influence minds.

During the Nazi years, the Propaganda Minister (yes there is actually a title), said, let me control the media, & I will control what people think. The truth is, 85% or so of the media is liberal, so if you think you are getting objective & fair coverage if you watch the media, you are in for a shock. There is NOT a single network, from both sides of the Atlantic that is not biased. WSJ is probably the closest I have seen so far that isn't following the script.

It is best to talk to people, do independent thinking. Also, I suggest learning about influencing minds, this doesn't make one immune, but it does improve your chance of seeing influencing at play.
 
Maybe if we're talking about real Conservatives. Trumpers on the other hand I don't think this is possible. Nothing but trolls that only care that "stupid snowflake libturds" are being hurt or screwed over, even if it means they hurt themselves in the long run.

Exactly. Trump's entire platform is by design meant to divide people. There's no compromise because Trumpers don't want it.

I know there are still some "normal" conservatives out there, but it is really hard to watch as they let Trump destroy both this country but their own party too.

We have a two party system, and back and forth is normal, but THIS is not normal.
 
Exactly. Trump's entire platform is by design meant to divide people. There's no compromise because Trumpers don't want it.

I know there are still some "normal" conservatives out there, but it is really hard to watch as they let Trump destroy both this country but their own party too.

We have a two party system, and back and forth is normal, but THIS is not normal.

Apparently you are just being brain washed by the media into thinking that
 
Apparently you are just being brain washed by the media into thinking that

Uhhh no. Thanks for the insult though.

I don't like Trump or Trumpers, and I don't need any media to tell me that. I'm actually pretty tired of people telling me to just get ignore it.

To quote Trump supporters: "F*** you and f*** your feelings".
 
Uhhh no. Thanks for the insult though.

I don't like Trump or Trumpers, and I don't need any media to tell me that. I'm actually pretty tired of people telling me to just get ignore it.

To quote Trump supporters: "F*** you and f*** your feelings".

I watch/read a vast range of media. I consume it all. I get a wide variety of opinions and commentary. I want main stream media to continue to report th idiocy of the current administration and republicans that support him. Their conduct cannot be normalized. Can cnn sometimes devote more time to orher issues, sure, but it’s not as bad as people make it out to be.

Thedid cover the Roseanne thing a little too much though.
 
Uhhh no. Thanks for the insult though.

I don't like Trump or Trumpers, and I don't need any media to tell me that. I'm actually pretty tired of people telling me to just get ignore it.

To quote Trump supporters: "F*** you and f*** your feelings".

I was being sarcastic because that is what starseeker is saying

Obviously Trump is divisive as hell and I am not sure how you are supposed to be open minded when facts aren't facts anymore and everything is fake news.
 
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Uhhh no. Thanks for the insult though.

I don't like Trump or Trumpers, and I don't need any media to tell me that. I'm actually pretty tired of people telling me to just get ignore it.

To quote Trump supporters: "F*** you and f*** your feelings".
Yet you are the one feel with hatred.

Despite the massive mess Merkel has done, I have no hatred for her supporters. I don't agree with their choice, but I don't hate them. Your hatred is a result of indoctrination.

I am expecting you to sworn vulgarity at me, but I still say it, you know why? Because I regard you as an online friend & do not want you to be the victim of hatred. Disagree by all means of Trump supporters, but never let hatred influenced your mind.
 
I was being sarcastic because that is what starseeker is saying

Obviously Trump is divisive as hell and I am not sure how you are supposed to be open minded when facts aren't facts anymore and everything is fake news.

Gothca!

I just don't get why people who are Republican can't just come out and dislike Trump? I don't get the blind loyalty?
 
Yet you are the one feel with hatred.

Despite the massive mess Merkel has done, I have no hatred for her supporters. I don't agree with their choice, but I don't hate them. Your hatred is a result of indoctrination.

I am expecting you to sworn vulgarity at me, but I still say it, you know why? Because I regard you as an online friend & do not want you to be the victim of hatred. Disagree by all means of Trump supporters, but never let hatred influenced your mind.

I'm guessing your German? Guess what? I won't tell you how to feel in your politics since I don't live where you do. How about you do the same?

Comparing America and Europe is very dangerous because they are very different places (and obviously individual countries there are different from each other).
 
Anybody that still supports trump at this point cannot be taken seriously when discussing politics. It’s just not possible.
WIll you share what verifiable horrible actions he has done in the 1.5 years? I am interested to know. The worst I can think of is banning Transsexual from Army, which was poorly handled.
 
I'm guessing your German? Guess what? I won't tell you how to feel in your politics since I don't live where you do. How about you do the same?

Comparing America and Europe is very dangerous because they are very different places (and obviously individual countries there are different from each other).
I am just saying not to have hatred. That's the bottom line. You can insult me, Its okay. I am prepared when I make my comments. I know emotion runs high when it comes to politics.
 
WIll you share what verifiable horrible actions he has done in the 1.5 years? I am interested to know. The worst I can think of is banning Transsexual from Army, which was poorly handled.

The tariff wars he has started are absolute lunacy and will do nothing but drive everyone's prices through the roof.

That isn't something mean he said, that hits me right in the wallet and that is not ok (neither is the other stuff either).

He's also destroyed the Iran deal and replaced it with nothing.

He's destroyed Obamacare and replaced it with... nothing.

He's cut taxes for the rich and done nothing to pay for it.
 
I am just saying not to have hatred. That's the bottom line. You can insult me, Its okay. I am prepared when I make my comments. I know emotion runs high when it comes to politics.

I never, ever had emotion in politics before Trump. I'm a registered independent and have been since I turned 18. I don't play the back and forth games. I've voted for both parties all through my life.

Trump is different. Trump is taking everything that defines America and destroy it.
 
The tariff wars he has started are absolute lunacy and will do nothing but drive everyone's prices through the roof.

That isn't something mean he said, that hits me right in the wallet and that is not ok (neither is the other stuff either).

He's also destroyed the Iran deal and replaced it with nothing.

He's destroyed Obamacare and replaced it with... nothing.

He's cut taxes for the rich and done nothing to pay for it.

It is fine to dislike or disagree with his policies, & present why they are bad.
This is where the conversations should be for the discussions to be objective. Then present case for each.

This I will support.
 
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