EA Access on Xbox One.

Season Pass gave you three days so this is considerably less. Although EA Access is offering more through the vault for about the same price it still seems a bit short. I would have like to see 12 hours over five days so it average out to a little more than two hours of play each day or one or two in depth sessions.
Did the season pass give you access to games before release though?
 
Did the season pass give you access to games before release though?
Yes, you got three full days, full game. But, it also didn't have the option to pay by the month or anything like the vault. Season Pass was basically geared at sports gamers who are annually buyers.
 
Ok so it's worth it to you to pay a sub for games you really didn't interest you enough to purchase them to begin with, gotcha.

...on top of getting a 10% discount on EA games/content and being able to play new final versions of games early (whether just because I want to play the new games early or to just simply see how much I like the game).

Again, I don't get why you keep on breaking up parts of the service saying it "isn't worth it" just for the sake of argument. The service provides multiples things/benefits. The majority of your posts about the topic only bring up one feature and/or payment plan of the service -- it's like you are choosing to ignore them (again) just to argue.

And it's also funny you say that as if it's a bad thing. There's many people who wait for games to be a lower price before they buy them. Doing that for multiple EA games would more than likely be more than $30/year since heck, $30 is usually around the price of only one EA game after it has been in stores for 6-12 months.

I also doubt they'll be putting games up with much less than a years time on them, the only reason they have some up now is because they can't release that service with nothing to offer.

There's nothing that proves as of right now that this will be the case.


As far as outdated, once a new sports game comes out the old ones are outdated yes, the rosters are usually different and some small gameplay element has been changed. Why would anyone really want access to Madden 25 if Madden 15 is already out?

Because they want to play a football game? I wouldn't do it but if someone else does then so what. Not everyone is interested in a pro sport to the point in which they need to play the latest version of a sports video game. I don't play NHL games at all but I will definitely try one out whenever it goes in the vault since it will be free.

On top of this, not all EA games are yearly series (NFS) and neither are all of them sports games.
 
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If I would were to buy Madden, which I have not in awhile, it would last me a few years in that series. Seeing as that's the case this year's or last year's Madden is really no different to me.

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6 hours is more than enough for 98% of gamers, but as is everything it's the 2%'ers who rule the Internet and make it look like their view is the majority mindset. It's not.
 
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Ok so it's worth it to you to pay a sub for games you really didn't interest you enough to purchase them to begin with, gotcha. I also doubt they'll be putting games up with much less than a years time on them, the only reason they have some up now is because they can't release that service with nothing to offer. As far as outdated, once a new sports game comes out the old ones are outdated yes, the rosters are usually different and some small gameplay element has been changed. Why would anyone really want access to Madden 25 if Madden 15 is already out?
I personally in the past only bought Madden every few years. With the price of EA Access I can now play Madden every year, and likely never have to buy the game again if I choose such.

The reason Peter Moore said that there is no time template for when a game gets added to the Vault, is because its impossible to predict when a game will stop getting retail orders, and digital sales. But you can rest assured that when a game stops selling it will get added to the Vault. The games in the Vaults biggest priority is to get the money that used game dealers make off their games. It has other priorities such as selling dlc, and expanding the audience of their games, but taking their money back from used game dealers is the biggest. And I find nothing wrong with that, they created the games. Are they not deserving of the money made on their creations?

Take a look at these prices, and then tell me EA Access is not worth it-
http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-one/games/fifa-14/109970
http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-one/games/battlefield-4/109973
http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-one/games/madden-nfl-25/109971
http://www.gamestop.com/browse?nav=16k-3-peggle+2,28zu0
 
6hrs is more then most demos give you. Give people early access to test out a "free" game and they'll still complain..
Judged in a void, thus is true. Judged in context and it has two things going against it.

1. Demos, in large part, including all previous Madden games, have been free all last generation.

2. Season Pass, which was EAs spiritual successor to this program, offered 12 times the duration for the same...full game, pre release.

So, to say complaints are unjustified is only true if you remove history from the discussion.
 
Only the hard core many of whom are degenerates buy Madden every single year. If I would were to buy Madden, which I have not in awhile, it would last me a few years in that series. Seeing as that's the case this year's or last year's Madden is really no different to me.

I used to buy it every year but it just seems like it's missing something, I'm not saying that to down EA either because 2K was the same way. It just doesn't feel anything like football, I know it's impossible to create a true NFL experience in digital form but the atmosphere, the drama and everything that goes along with a real NFL game just hasn't been properly duplicated in a video game yet and I just find that it gets really old after a while. I bought Madden 25 on PS4 and traded it within a week of purchase and I doubt I'll ever buy another one.
 
...on top of getting a 10% discount on EA games/content and being able to play new final versions of games early (whether just because I want to play the new games early or to just simply see how much I like the game).

Again, I don't get why you keep on breaking up parts of the service saying it "isn't worth it" just for the sake of argument. The service provides multiples things/benefits. The majority of your posts about the topic only bring up one feature and/or payment plan of the service -- it's like you are choosing to ignore them (again) just to argue.

And it's also funny you say that as if it's a bad thing. There's many people who wait for games to be a lower price before they buy them. Doing that for multiple EA games would more than likely be more than $30/year since heck, $30 is usually around the price of only one EA game after it has been in stores for 6-12 months.



There's nothing that proves as of right now that this will be the case.




Because they want to play a football game? I wouldn't do it but if someone else does then so what. Not everyone is interested in a pro sport to the point in which they need to play the latest version of a sports video game. I don't play NHL games at all but I will definitely try one out whenever it goes in the vault since it will be free.

On top of this, not all EA games are yearly series (NFS) and neither are all of them sports games.

Most of their sports titles are yearly, NHL usually is but they skipped new gen last year but will be back this year and from every year on, NBA Live has had it's problems but once that's all sorted out it'll be an annual release again, Fifa and Madden are both yearly. We don't know if UFC will be yearly yet, if not it'll likely be alternating with a new fight night or something every other year.

As far as discounts, right now the games listed that you can get discounts on are either old titles or the new sports games that are coming out soon but things like Dragon Age, BF Hardline etc aren't listed so you are making assumptions about how valuable that is.

This could be something of value once they have more games in the vault but right now it just doesn't seem to be worth getting for anyone other than the type of person who buys every sports game every year.
 
Most of their sports titles are yearly, NHL usually is but they skipped new gen last year but will be back this year and from every year on, NBA Live has had it's problems but once that's all sorted out it'll be an annual release again, Fifa and Madden are both yearly. We don't know if UFC will be yearly yet, if not it'll likely be alternating with a new fight night or something every other year.

As far as discounts, right now the games listed that you can get discounts on are either old titles or the new sports games that are coming out soon but things like Dragon Age, BF Hardline etc aren't listed so you are making assumptions about how valuable that is.


This could be something of value once they have more games in the vault but right now it just doesn't seem to be worth getting for anyone other than the type of person who buys every sports game every year.

Not sure if serious.o_O

They've already stated that all upcoming games would be given early access, with the discount upon release of the game. Every new game. Jinca, why are you leaving out certain details bro? Thats not assuming when its there for you to read in black and white.
 
I see EA is getting some decent flak for this early access time. To be honest, I get it. Sure, you have 6 hours of the full game, but I can spend a silly amount of time playing sports game demos. I could easily quadrauple that time with a FIFA demo(which I fear is next for the demo chop next year) these sort of services IMO should be instead of, but in addition to.
 
Judged in a void, thus is true. Judged in context and it has two things going against it.

1. Demos, in large part, including all previous Madden games, have been free all last generation.

2. Season Pass, which was EAs spiritual successor to this program, offered 12 times the duration for the same...full game, pre release.

So, to say complaints are unjustified is only true if you remove history from the discussion.
i have a question on your second point.. did you have to buy the game to have that access?
 
its ridiculous how much ignorance is going around about access

this might not be a popular view but if Sony also had EA Access we wouldnt have HALF the whining we have had so far.. its kinda ridiculous. all the sony fanboys obviously cant have Access so they are ignorant on the subject and jump to conclusions all over the place

EDIT: i use the term "sony fanboys" as describing people with only a PS console. it is not meant in any other way
 
its ridiculous how much ignorance is going around about access

this might not be a popular view but if Sony also had EA Access we wouldnt have HALF the whining we have had so far.. its kinda ridiculous. all the sony fanboys obviously cant have Access so they are ignorant on the subject and jump to conclusions all over the place

EDIT: i use the term "sony fanboys" as describing people with only a PS console. it is not meant in any other way

I have to agree. There seems to be almost a deliberate confusion between a demo and early access to a game. And of course the complete refusal to acknowledge the monthly price plan over the yearly one.
If you don't like the service, that's one thing, but not understanding what it is or deliberately trying to obfuscate it is whole other story.
 
I have to agree. There seems to be almost a deliberate confusion between a demo and early access to a game. And of course the complete refusal to acknowledge the monthly price plan over the yearly one.
If you don't like the service, that's one thing, but not understanding what it is or deliberately trying to obfuscate it is whole other story.

I am going to disagree. The whole early access thing is nothing but a demo. It is simply a different execution from the traditional way we are used to. Instead of limited content, we are now limit by time. Depending upon the game this is a pro or a con.
 
I am going to disagree. The whole early access thing is nothing but a demo. It is simply a different execution from the traditional way we are used to. Instead of limited content, we are now limit by time. Depending upon the game this is a pro or a con.

Nope. When we say demo in terms of games we are referring to a limited trail version of a game, not representative of the final product.
Early access is the full game, in all its glory, available to you for a number of hours to play how you like. If you want to buy the game, it's already downloaded, so you just unlock it. It is a not demo.
 
Nope. When we say demo in terms of games we are referring to a limited trail version of a game, not representative of the final product.
Early access is the full game, in all its glory, available to you for a number of hours to play how you like. If you want to buy the game, it's already downloaded, so you just unlock it. It is a not demo.

As I said, early access is still a limited trial version of the game. Only thing that has changed is what that limit is. It used to be content, now it is time. Also, every demo I have ever played has been representative of the final product.
 
6 hours is also just this one game. Other games could probably be more (or less). They probably have to see what works.
 
As I said, early access is still a limited trial version of the game. Only thing that has changed is what that limit is. It used to be content, now it is time. Also, every demo I have ever played has been representative of the final product.

A demo of Fifa would possibly be two teams in head to head where you can't change anything. A time limit trial of the full game is, well , the full game with all its options. There is a big difference but I guess it's all semantics at this point. I don't consider it a demo in the same way that some are suggesting it is.
 
A demo of Fifa would possibly be two teams in head to head where you can't change anything. A time limit trial of the full game is, well , the full game with all its options. There is a big difference but I guess it's all semantics at this point. I don't consider it a demo in the same way that some are suggesting it is.

There are big differences in what you get. No argument here.
I do not think it is semantics though. What is a demo, or what does a demo mean ? to show/demonstrate a product/technique, right ? that is what both of these are doing. One does it with limited content, the other limits playtime with time restrictions. In the end the purpose for both methods is to get you to buy the game by allowing you to sample it.

Also, like I have said before regarding this, it will be a massive plus for games like Dragon age. It is so hard to make a compelling demo of that sort of game.
 
A demo of Fifa would possibly be two teams in head to head where you can't change anything. A time limit trial of the full game is, well , the full game with all its options. There is a big difference but I guess it's all semantics at this point. I don't consider it a demo in the same way that some are suggesting it is.
I understand what you are trying to say. By definition it is a demo, but in the traditional sense of what is considered a gaming demo, it is very different.
 
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Not sure you understand what free means. it cant be free if i have to pay for another service to get it.

Hence the "free" in quotes. It's an added benefit to EA Access. $29/year for access to the vault is a great benefit, plus 10% off DLC/Digital orders and early access to try out the games before you buy? Its an added benefit to having the Access, but thats cool. Gamers are so entitled these days, its sickening. "Everything should be free, I don't want to pay for anything! RAGE, RAGE, f*** you Sony/Microsoft/EA"

A friend was telling me how nice it was that it's not stuck behind Xbox Live paywall.
 
Huge difference between a demo and full game trial. I've never put 6 hours into an unlimited demo before. They're usually so restricted, you don't even get an accurate feel for the game.

When it comes to sports games, I prefer to play as realistically as possible. That means making slider tweaks, adjusting the clock to have a realistic number of total plays run, test out franchise more, edit players, etc.

This is very cool. After buying every single version of Madden since the first one on Genesis, I took a break a few years ago. This will entice me to try it out again and give it another chance. 6 hours is more time than I'd play if I rented the game for 3 days. I like that they count hours and not days. Makes my time trial more flexible.