EA Access on Xbox One.

You know, after thinking about it some more, 6 hours actually is not all that short. Maybe for some hardcore gamers, but for someone like me, that's way more than enough time for 5 days early. Chances are I would never use it up anyway.
 
You know, after thinking about it some more, 6 hours actually is not all that short. Maybe for some hardcore gamers, but for someone like me, that's way more than enough time for 5 days early. Chances are I would never use it up anyway.

I don't care for sports games, except racing, I fine the pace slow, but thats just me. It'll be nice to try Madden or FIFA out so maybe the pace has changed since the last Madden/Fifa game I played was on the OG Xbox.
 
I put about 30 hours into the NBA street demo back in the day. That was the greatest demo ever.
 
I understand what you are trying to say. By definition it is a demo, but in the traditional sense of what is considered a gaming demo, it is very different.

Exactly. That's why it's all semantics at this point. The argument is over the definition of what you are getting.
 
There are big differences in what you get. No argument here.

Yes. There is a big difference.

I do not think it is semantics though. What is a demo, or what does a demo mean ? to show/demonstrate a product/technique, right ? that is what both of these are doing. One does it with limited content, the other limits playtime with time restrictions. In the end the purpose for both methods is to get you to buy the game by allowing you to sample it.

Semantics: concerned with the analysis of word meanings

What is a demo? Semantics is exactly what this is.

Also, like I have said before regarding this, it will be a massive plus for games like Dragon age. It is so hard to make a compelling demo of that sort of game.

Again, yes. People dismissing this as 'just a demo..' are confusing whats on offer here with the downloadable demos of old.

Wait... I'm confused now... are we arguing?? :txbconfused:
 
6 hour demo's pretty cool. You could start a SP campaign and see if you like the general direction the game's going for the first 6 hours.

Is it a 6 hour in-game timer or the 6 hours starts counting right after you download it and continues regardless if you play it or not?
 
You can definitely make an educated decision about whether you want to buy a game after playing it for six hours. Thats more than they give you on the display models at Best Buy, Gamestop, Target etc. :p
 
6 hour demo's pretty cool. You could start a SP campaign and see if you like the general direction the game's going for the first 6 hours.

Is it a 6 hour in-game timer or the 6 hours starts counting right after you download it and continues regardless if you play it or not?

Not sure but I'm going to presume it's actual game time. I'll be getting dragon age via access so I'll let you know.
 
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i have a question on your second point.. did you have to buy the game to have that access?
Nope. You just needed Season Ticket and you got access to the full game for three entire days before it released. No preorder or promise to buy. No timer limit on game play, once it was opened you could play it as much as you wanted for those three days and then it was shut off on release. Like I said, the main difference was no such thing as The Vault and no monthly sub option, you had to buy the Season ticket which was provided early access to any sports game released.
 
Most of their sports titles are yearly, NHL usually is but they skipped new gen last year but will be back this year and from every year on, NBA Live has had it's problems but once that's all sorted out it'll be an annual release again, Fifa and Madden are both yearly.

Yes, but their sports titles aren't all of their titles. EA makes more games outside of just sports.

We don't know if UFC will be yearly yet, if not it'll likely be alternating with a new fight night or something every other year.

It's already be stated that it won't be yearly. It will be similar to Fight Night as you said -- every 2 years or so.

As far as discounts, right now the games listed that you can get discounts on are either old titles or the new sports games that are coming out soon but things like Dragon Age, BF Hardline etc aren't listed so you are making assumptions about how valuable that is.

They "aren't listed" because the games aren't close to releasing yet. They will be 10% off too. I'm not making an assumption -- people with EA access will get discounts on future EA games.

This could be something of value once they have more games in the vault but right now it just doesn't seem to be worth getting for anyone other than the type of person who buys every sports game every year.

What about the fact that all of the games that are currently in the vault would come out to a total of more than $100 if you bought each separately? So you are telling me that $30/year for all the games on top of 10% discounts on new games, DLC, and the ability to play full games early (before retail release) isn't worth getting if someone isn't interested in sports games? Battlefield 4 alone costs more than the service does per year right now ($50 vs. $30).

If you aren't interested in the service then that's fine, but your constant determination to prove why it isn't worth it is simply fascinating.
 
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I predict Titanfall will hit the Vault within a month or two of the new year. Actually, there will likely be several other games hit the Vault in that time frame as well.
 
I predict Titanfall will hit the Vault within a month or two of the new year. Actually, there will likely be several other games hit the Vault in that time frame as well.

9 months sounds like a reasonable timeframe. To let the sales go through first then put it up in the Vault.
 
9 months sounds like a reasonable timeframe. To let the sales go through first then put it up in the Vault.
Yup, any amount of time between when a games sales stop, and the game gets added to the Vault, is time they will be losing to money to used game sales.
 
Yes, but their sports titles aren't all of their titles. EA makes more games outside of just sports.



It's already be stated that it won't be yearly. It will be similar to Fight Night as you said -- every 2 years or so.



They "aren't listed" because the games aren't close to releasing yet. They will be 10% off too. I'm not making an assumption -- people with EA access will get discounts on future EA games.



What about the fact that all of the games that are currently in the vault would come out to a total of more than $100 if you bought each separately? So you are telling me that $30/year for all the games on top of 10% discounts on new games, DLC, and the ability to play full games early (before retail release) isn't worth getting if someone isn't interested in sports games? Battlefield 4 alone costs more than the service does per year right now ($50 vs. $30).

If you aren't interested in the service then that's fine, but your constant determination to prove why it isn't worth it is simply fascinating.

Your constant defense is what's "fascinating" then again you say you buy 6 or 7 EA games a year so maybe it is a service that works out well for you but MOST people do not buy that many EA games in a year. Who really cares if the games in the vault are cheaper than buying if they aren't games you wanted to buy anyway? I think most people who wanted BF4 have it by now, I'm sure most people who wanted PvZ on X1 have it by now. It sounds like those people who clip coupons and buy things that they otherwise never would just because they are on sale. As I said before maybe once they have a larger selection for the vault it'll be a good value, right now it just seems too early. BTW The vast majority of EA's games are sports games.
 
9 months sounds like a reasonable timeframe. To let the sales go through first then put it up in the Vault.

Yeah they'll still be making far more money off of retail sales so the newer titles like BF Hardline and Dragon Age aren't likely to come to this service anytime soon.
 
Yeah they'll still be making far more money off of retail sales so the newer titles like BF Hardline and Dragon Age aren't likely to come to this service anytime soon.
Okay. So is someone going to inform Jinca that "it seems he's attempting to troll the threads?" He's clearly not getting it or just simply wants to argue because he's up in arms about the service.

No offense Jinca, but you clearly arent in favor of the service, which is fine. But you also seem to be ignoring certain details to have a leg to stand on just to argue, when the conditions of how EA Access works has been explained ad nauseum to you. It cant be that hard to understand. And how many times must subscribers explain how it works only to have to you come BACK around, remove details, argue, repeat? Its done man. Move on...
 
Yeah they'll still be making far more money off of retail sales so the newer titles like BF Hardline and Dragon Age aren't likely to come to this service anytime soon.
However, the vast majority of EA's game IP's are NOT sports games.
 
It's clearly a crazy world we live in when people are against options, especially on a service that can save gamers a ton of money!
 
Almost bought Rivals on the 360, but got Most Wanted instead. Was a good choice.
 
Nice. Never bought any of the NFS games.
I own it and it's pretty good/fun. I don't love the "always online" aspect of it especially when my kid is playing. I don't know if there is yet a way to mute audio from the TV speakers if no headset is connected. The racer part is also much harder than the cop part. Of course, it's one of the two games I own digitally. Hope PvZ:GW is next...skipped that in favor of Titanfall but it looks damn fun.
 
How many of you put an average of 6 hours into game demos? How many games have demos? Could you ever carry over your save from a demo into the real game before? How representative of the full game was the game demo?

Here's what most game demos are in my view. Correct me if I'm wrong. If the game even has a demo prior to release, it's usually a limited snippet of the game. It's not always the first level. If it's a non-sports game, the demo usually doesn't have 6 hours worth of gameplay in it...unless you replay the same limited level over and over. If it's a sports game, it's usually limited to short time periods, two teams, with no access to franchise modes or more importantly, sliders.

6 hours with saves that translate to the real game is huge. If I invest 6 hours, I want that 6 hours to carry over and not have to start over.

6 hours to test out all the game modes, sliders and options is huge in sports games. Making it 6 hours rather than a 3 day time period offers more flexibility. I don't know about some of you...but I work, have kids and have to do other things other than game. I may only get a couple hours over the course of a few weeks when life gets hectic.

Bottom line is this service has a ton of value to a lot of people. It's more cost effective than grabbing the same games from the bargain bin. No...not all of us buy everything that looks somewhat enjoyable. We usually make choices. But now we can get a taste of a bunch of those games we weren't willing to commit to purchasing.
 
How many of you put an average of 6 hours into game demos? How many games have demos? Could you ever carry over your save from a demo into the real game before? How representative of the full game was the game demo?

Here's what most game demos are in my view. Correct me if I'm wrong. If the game even has a demo prior to release, it's usually a limited snippet of the game. It's not always the first level. If it's a non-sports game, the demo usually doesn't have 6 hours worth of gameplay in it...unless you replay the same limited level over and over. If it's a sports game, it's usually limited to short time periods, two teams, with no access to franchise modes or more importantly, sliders.

6 hours with saves that translate to the real game is huge. If I invest 6 hours, I want that 6 hours to carry over and not have to start over.

6 hours to test out all the game modes, sliders and options is huge in sports games. Making it 6 hours rather than a 3 day time period offers more flexibility. I don't know about some of you...but I work, have kids and have to do other things other than game. I may only get a couple hours over the course of a few weeks when life gets hectic.

Bottom line is this service has a ton of value to a lot of people. It's more cost effective than grabbing the same games from the bargain bin. No...not all of us buy everything that looks somewhat enjoyable. We usually make choices. But now we can get a taste of a bunch of those games we weren't willing to commit to purchasing.

Well said. You really have to try very hard to cast this offer in a negative light.

Next up: Garden Warfare :)