I tried.... But she stabbed by in my sleep.... I keep my screwdrivers to myself nowHave you upgraded your spouse to have a mute button?
(And I presume you are more than smart enough to not even suggest such a thing).
'Fixing' the image problem of female game characters. A visual illustration.
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I guess whoever concerned themselves with this couldn't be bothered by anything other than boobs, waist, and ass. Never mind that the proportions are out of whack. Hell, Helena looks like a freak of nature with her head being so small. They didn't adjust her head size at all it seems. Also, like has already been mentioned, it doesn't make sense for most of these characters to look like the "after" images when you consider their active lifestyle/occupation. Beyond that, what about it clothes? If you were going to take issue with something, then why not the clothes they are wearing? If anything, changing their attire is more realistic within the context of what they're doing.
Truth. I think the clothing issue is changing as we want a bit (not all, of course) more of a realistic mentality. Japanese games being a large exception, but they are deep into artistic representation. Suspension of disbelief plays a role, and unless you are a 14 year old boy, it doesn't make much sense to be wearing a bikini with armored shoulder pads, lol.
Most of this boils down to some women who don't want to face the reality that they are overweight. You don't hear men whining about the unrealistic proportions male characters have. Ideals are necessary anyway. People who end up with eating disorders because they don't look like a runway model (who look gross anyway unless it victoria's secret- who usually look healthier, anyway) have deeper issues. People need to be expected to operate with a rational mind, not have excuses made to justify a lack of good sense.
All this pandering does is make people even more mentally weak, and shift action away from the self, and onto others. NOTHING is solved this way. Any real change or fix HAS to happen on an internal level, not brow-beating people into capitulation to their over-sensitivity. This is a growing disease of a million puling little tyrants.
I never get upset by 'unrealistic' bronze muscular guys with tone body on magazine or movies. I see them as inspiration. When I look at them, I said, wow, I wanted to look like him also.
You could argue that the male ideal is a more healthy ideal, but I guess that depends on where you are looking. Of course there are unhealthy ways to reach that look, but if you want to cut corners, that's on you and I have no pity.
I honestly don't see those Skinny Calvin Klein models getting much attention outside of women's media. I don't know a single man out there who hasn't verbalized that the healthier, athletic females are far more attractive than those bony runway models. Bulimia and anorexia does not produce that look. Mental problems beyond representation.
FFS, yoga pants are all the rage for a reason!
Body image issues are inherently more prevalent with females because, you know, much of their worth was/is judged based on their reproductive potential.
That's the difference between men and women. Men in general are less emotional and don't really care about stuff like that. Guys see ripped models on magazine covers and either don't care or it gives them motivation to work out and score with chicks. I don't think there are too many guys (in general), who see GQ and Mens Fitness mags seeing well dressed guys with six-pack abs and then go home and weep. Or in videogames, even more extreme. Super ripped, super strong, almost all of them are white guys with brown hair, and at the end of the day save the day and score the hot female co-star. In reality, most guys are average, have zero fighting skills, have different hair and skin colour and most strike out picking up women.
Woop-dee-do.
Women are more into glitz, clothing, jewelry, shoes and making sure they look prettied up. And if all seems lost, it can spiral into depression mode. That's why you go to any big shopping mall and I'd say half the stores are geared to women. The other half is split between food, Walmart, unisex shops, there's always a currecy converter place etc..... Then you'll get maybe 3-4 stores geared to men.... which is always a suit and tie place, a tuxedo rental place and 1-2 mens clothing shops. And if the mall is lucky it has a Bass Pro kind of store which is aimed at guys. Unisex shops are geared to women too. Just pop into Banana Republic and the guy section is a corner, the kids section is in between the guy section and womens section. The womens section is probably 60% of the store.
Since not every women cares about that or putting effort to appearance, you often get the "less than attractive" side of women complaining. You rarely see great looking women complain.... probably because they are too busy wanting to look good for themselves and others. You rarely see a great looking man or woman being all smelly and wearing grubby clothes and uncombed hair. On the other hand, you don't seem to see as many unattractive people putting in the effort exercising, eating right or at least just wearing nice clothes, make up and such trying to do the best they can with what they have. Most seem to just not give a shyt. So the easiest way to make themselves feel better is to complain about other people looking good.... which is basically jealousy.
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Men are just as emotional as women. We just express it differently (sorta). If I didn't get mad and use up that negative energy, I'd probably cry like a baby. There are a lot of whiny dudes out there, and there are a lot of hard working women who are taken advantage of by their lay-about boyfriends/husbands. One of the great things about having these sort of ideals is it can give people a guide or something to aspire to. Whether that's physically or not. We should be holding up the extraordinary and accomplished. I despise the people who want to be coddled for utter mediocrity and make excuses or blame exterior sources for things not going the way they want them to. I have the utmost respect and admiration for those who move forward despite the obstacles in their path.
People will live up to your expectations, and I fear society is losing any sense of higher being or self-improvement for the sake of protecting egos and self-illusion.
Well said.
People should look up to others who have done well. Even if they know deep down they will never achieve it, noting wrong with respecting the people who do it. Instead some people whine and complain in jealous fits.
I doubt I'll ever be a fit guy. But for all those people who eat right and wake up at 5:30 am so they can get in an hr of exercise before handling their kids and getting ready to for work, full credit. Then there's people who prefer working out at lunch (instead of relaxing in the cafe), or heading to the gym right after work when you'd think they would be beat and want to just want to head home for dinner.
Some people will look at them and be jealous or think it's not fair because "they have good genes". Perhaps, but perhaps the reason why they look good is because they put in the effort to eat lean meat and salads and lift weights in the morning when most people are still snoring in bed.
Like Kim Kardashian?
If you compared the opinion of a man, before and after he had a teenage daughter, I think theyd vary a lot.
If you compared the opinion of a man, before and after he had a teenage daughter, I think theyd vary a lot.
Out of shape men will be motivated and inspired to work out. Out of shape women will get jealous and attack Barbie rather than be happy for her and rather than working out.
No joke. If you look at comments on pics of athletic women talking about dedication and hard work, there is a LOT of negativity, and nasty personal attacks. If you look at a chubby girl posting a pic in her underwear and making some comment on "real women have curves", it will be chock full of "beautiful!" and "you go girl".
Guys just start arguing about what protein is the best and saying how much more weight they can do, lol, which is almost as bad, although you do get the odd comment about how they are just meat-heads with no life- exclusively by people who don't value physical fitness, which begs the question why they are consuming that media in the first place. hint- it's so they can put others down to make themselves feel better.
Not that we should be mean to these people or anything but it's like the world is upside down.
their target market is young horny hetro males, we don't want to see fat women, we want to see women we would want to bang. reality has nothing to do with gaming so go away.
This is why women should have never been allowed out of the kitchen and bedroom, you know this was inspired by some fat old uglty woman....
This is why women should have never been allowed out of the kitchen and bedroom, you know this was inspired by some fat old uglty woman....
It depends on the genre. If the game is an interactive story or crime thriller, it makes sense to have more average men and women. Or even some survival horror average people try to survive a catastrophe or zombie invasion.
So little girls play with Barbie dolls that don't have what a lot of women consider "realistic" body types, did they ever make a fat Ken? lol. When I was a kid I had He-Man toys and all kinds of other action figures and very few of them were overweight at all, comic book characters were always muscular unless being fat was part of their power and male tv stars were generally fit. Are young men told that it's ok to be fat? nope not really it's just something they don't obsess over in the same way but it's not like most fat guys walk around feeling good about themselves either.
The same thing goes for games, how many video games do you play where the main male character is fat? I can't think of many and when they are it's usually for comic relief not because they are trying to portray a "realistic" man. It's also kind of logical to make a character in an action game look like they take care of themselves, how often are you going to see overweight people that are able to the types of thing video game characters do? I don't mean that they are doing realistic things but it's easier to suspend disbelief when you see a fit guy or girl jumping from roof to roof and not someone who's 100lbs over weight doing it, can you imagine Tomb Raider with Adele Croft? or Uncharted with Wayne (Knight) Drake? it just wouldn't work.
Now when it comes to the overly sexualized type of stuff like huge boobs that jiggle all over the place etc or women wearing stripper outfits that really have nothing to do with what is actually going on in the game I can see people thinking that should change but as far as the general body types no I don't think that's a problem.
The same thing goes for games, how many video games do you play where the main male character is fat? I can't think of many and when they are it's usually for comic relief not because they are trying to portray a "realistic" man. It's also kind of logical to make a character in an action game look like they take care of themselves, how often are you going to see overweight people that are able to the types of thing video game characters do? I don't mean that they are doing realistic things but it's easier to suspend disbelief when you see a fit guy or girl jumping from roof to roof and not someone who's 100lbs over weight doing it, can you imagine Tomb Raider with Adele Croft? or Uncharted with Wayne (Knight) Drake? it just wouldn't work.
Now when it comes to the overly sexualized type of stuff like huge boobs that jiggle all over the place etc or women wearing stripper outfits that really have nothing to do with what is actually going on in the game I can see people thinking that should change but as far as the general body types no I don't think that's a problem.
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Not all characters need to be like supermodel. But that doesn't mean all characters need to be "realistic". Say, what's the point of Japanese fighters if they don't feature female characters with ridiculous body shapes? We need more realistic figures for political correctness's sake maybe, but that doesn't mean developers should change what is already there, rather making new characters that fit the body type.
We never need to change figures for political correctness. PC is just a socially sanctioned way to lie to others (or at least be disingenuous), and half the reason people are so damned offended all the time (which is ironic, but anyone with half a brain could see this coming).