Game Lineup Comparisons v. 1.2

[menace-uk-]

If true this is unlike Sony and I am excited.

They have nothing though. No way a Gran Turismo is coming, uncharted is done for 2015. Sony Santa Monica just released The Order. Media Molecule are doing Tearaway(not exactly a big AAA game anyway). Seems a little quick for Sucker punch to have a new game. Evolution Studios just released Drive Club.

What does that leave?

Guerilla Games - Killzone release at launch. Perhaps they have a new game?
Ninja Theory - They have that Hellblade game.
Supermassive games - Until Dawn.

I do not really see the latter two being big games.

Perhaps they will buy some 3rd party game?

 

[This_Hard_Land]

They have nothing though. No way a Gran Turismo is coming, uncharted is done for 2015. Sony Santa Monica just released The Order. Media Molecule are doing Tearaway(not exactly a big AAA game anyway). Seems a little quick for Sucker punch to have a new game. Evolution Studios just released Drive Club.

What does that leave?

Guerilla Games - Killzone release at launch. Perhaps they have a new game?
Ninja Theory - They have that Hellblade game.
Supermassive games - Until Dawn.

I do not really see the latter two being big games.

Perhaps they will buy some 3rd party game?

You're officially group C as a result of this post. It's actually difficult to be wrong this many times in a single post. Bravo.

 

[Intellivision]

X1 2015
- Fable Legends
- Halo 5
- Forza 6
- Rise of Tomb Raider

PS4 2015
- The Order 1886
- Bloodborne
- MLB 15

Winner: X1 (just like 2013 and 2014)

 

[yankeessuck]

X1 2015
- Fable Legends
- Halo 5
- Forza 6
- Rise of Tomb Raider

PS4 2015
- The Order 1886
- Bloodborne
- MLB 15

Winner: X1 (just like 2013 and 2014)

Even though you excluded some PS4 games for reasons you actually included MLB. I am kind of impressed by that.

I will take the PS4 lineup though. Retail games throughout the year and more quality indie titles. Just like last year.

 

[Frozpot]

If true this is unlike Sony and I am excited.

GT 7?

 

[menace-uk-]

You're officially group C as a result of this post. It's actually difficult to be wrong this many times in a single post. Bravo.

I was already in group C. At least keep up with the groups you put people in.

and how am I wrong?

Don't just say it is wrong, say why it is wrong, jeez.

 

[Bgamer90]

Even though you excluded some PS4 games for reasons you actually included MLB. I am kind of impressed by that.

I will take the PS4 lineup though. Retail games throughout the year and more quality indie titles. Just like last year.

Xbox One has greatly stepped up its position in indie games this year. I'm sure the PS4 has more but I really don't see how people can make full comparisons -- just way too many indie games coming to both to list them all (with both systems having exclusive indie games).

I'm very pumped for Cuphead.:

 

[Bgamer90]

If true this is unlike Sony and I am excited.

That's definitely unlike Sony. They usually like to annouce their big AAA titles at least one year before they release -- not a few months before they release.

I could see some 2015 digital games being annouced, or an "AAA" remake collection (a la Uncharted), but a completely new AAA game just for the PS4 in late 2015? Eh... We'll see though. I like being surprised.

 

[Qbert]

X1 2015
- Fable Legends
- Halo 5
- Forza 6
- Rise of Tomb Raider

PS4 2015
- The Order 1886
- Bloodborne
- MLB 15

Winner: X1 (just like 2013 and 2014)

Fable Legends is going to blow.

Halo, lol, lord no, not another lame Halo.


The Order 1886 will be GoTY. So will Bloodborne. Yep, you heard it first. PS4 is taking us places we've never been....the first time 2 games will be the #1 game of the year.

PS4 is the pinnacle of gaming consoles. XB1 is a dying ship. You might as well abandon that ship now while you have the chance.

 

[TeKPhaN]

Don't

 

[Andy]

Xbox One has greatly stepped up its position in indie games this year. I'm sure the PS4 has more but I really don't see how people can make full comparisons -- just way too many indie games coming to both to list them all (with both systems having exclusive indie games).

I agree, the indie scene on both consoles is looking pretty interesting.

Here are two good Game Informer articles, listing PS4 and X1 indie exclusives, with video for each game. The articles were published about six months ago, so they aren't completely up to date, but they cover the field pretty well.

PS4:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2014/08/22/playstation-4-indie-exclusives.aspx

Xbox One:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2014/09/11/xbox-one-39-s-indie-exclusives-list.aspx

 

[Intellivision]

Xbox One has greatly stepped up its position in indie games this year. I'm sure the PS4 has more but I really don't see how people can make full comparisons -- just way too many indie games coming to both to list them all (with both systems having exclusive indie games).

It's the one crutch PS fans can find solace in..... quantity. Just as PS4 has easily outsold X1...... quantity.

There hasn't been one thread anywhere on any game forum where any PS fan has tried trumping X1 by comparing exclusive standard budget $60 games..... Infamous/Knack/1886 type stuff vs. Sunset/Titanfall/Forza etc...

I didn't see Xbox fans saying XBLA games were much better than PSN games since 360 probably had an extra 1,000 $1 indie games. Although there's many that are great and worth that $1, let's face it, 90% are junk, 9% are decent and 1% are great. Even though most are $1-3, most still aren't worth paying and playing.

There were lots of trashy $1 downloads (they aren't even games) which were things like colour coordinator, controller tester, home theatre system sound test and junk like that. I'm positive there was an indie download that was literally a controller rumble test.

According to a post somewhere (I'm too lazy to verify), Ori and the Blind Forest is currently the highest rated new IP exclusive on either system so far. An indie download. On Xbox One.

 

[yankeessuck]

There hasn't been one thread anywhere on any game forum where any PS fan has tried trumping X1 by comparing exclusive standard budget $60 games..... Infamous/Knack/1886 type stuff vs. Sunset/Titanfall/Forza etc...

It wouldn't be that hard if someone wanted to. The list was posted a few pages back and neither was overly impressive.

 

[de3d1]

It wouldn't be that hard if someone wanted to. The list was posted a few pages back and neither was overly impressive.

That's kinda of the only play that's left, "meh, neither list is that good"

I think one of them has an advantage for sure, now granted that would not have happen if nearly every fvcking ps4 retail thus far wouldn't have fallen short. KZ, DC, and The Order looked INCREDBILE in theory, and none of them scored above 75. Infamous SS barely made it.

So the only thing that's left was the game already on ps3.


Now Bloodbourne.... that could be a different monster altogether. I'm thinking it will be the first true ps4 retail game worth having.

 

[Intellivision]

I think one of them has an advantage for sure, now granted that would not have happen if nearly every fvcking ps4 retail thus far wouldn't have fallen short. KZ, DC, and The Order looked INCREDBILE in theory, and none of them scored above 75. Infamous SS barely made it.

I believe PS4's best rated exclusive is their baseball game The Show. lol. A baseball game rated at 83. Don't get me wrong, I had The Show 06 or 07 on PS2 (I always forget which one it was) and it is easily the best video/computer baseball series I've played ever, but gimme a break. A baseball game is the best rated retail exclusive.

That would be like going back in time and changing history where the best Xbox OG exclusive game release was NHL Rivals at 83 while every other MS exclusive scored lower than that. Like baseball, most people don't care about hockey either as sports are very regionally based aside from FIFA which has the most global interest as a whole.

Now Bloodbourne.... that could be a different monster altogether. I'm thinking it will be the first true ps4 retail game worth having.

Given how the game looks and From Software's track record, Bloodborne should be a good game. Likely 85+ on metacritic. Although who knows. I predicted 1886 would get an avg score of 72 and it ended up getting 65.

But just watch.

As soon as Bloodborne gets good scores (very likely), all the Sony fans will come out saying "where's all the good X1 games this year?"

All the while for the past year and a half (since launch), despite all the hype KF, 1886, DC and Infamous got (I won't even bother putting Knack or LBP3 in the same boat), the interest in the games deflate the second the reviews start pouring in showing mediocre quality.

But solid A+ for Sony's marketing and PR department!

Whomever's idea it was to parade Mark Cerny around in 2013 hyping PS4 and Knack should get a promotion. An equally good strategy was getting him out of the spotlight the second Knack reviews came in. lol

 

[yankeessuck]

That's kinda of the only play that's left, "meh, neither list is that good"

I think one of them has an advantage for sure, now granted that would not have happen if nearly every fvcking ps4 retail thus far wouldn't have fallen short. KZ, DC, and The Order looked INCREDBILE in theory, and none of them scored above 75. Infamous SS barely made it.

So the only thing that's left was the game already on ps3.

Now Bloodbourne.... that could be a different monster altogether. I'm thinking it will be the first true ps4 retail game worth having.

And the other play is "you can play them on PS3" while ignoring Xbox One games that you can play on 360.

I have an Xbox One and I think the PS4 lineup is better. No need to make any kind of "play" with something that is that subjective. Even your metacritic doesn't show any kind of advantage. Some people truly like the Xbox One lineup more and some want to pretend its on a whole different level compared to PS4 because of allegiance to their console. My point was I am not exactly seeing PS2 in 2001 in these lineups.

 

[de3d1]

And the other play is "you can play them on PS3" while ignoring Xbox One games that you can play on 360.

I have an Xbox One and I think the PS4 lineup is better. No need to make any kind of "play" with something that is that subjective. Even your metacritic doesn't show any kind of advantage. Some people truly like the Xbox One lineup more and some want to pretend its on a whole different level compared to PS4 because of allegiance to their console. My point was I am not exactly seeing PS2 in 2001 in these lineups.

I have a ps4 and xbox one, I think xbox one's lineup is better. Doesn't matter either way. Its not on another level, that's getting a bit crazy with it.

What games can you play on xbox one and 360? TF and FH2 have been addressed many times over. FH2 is not the same game on 360, whereas TLoU is a port.

 

[Intellivision]

My point was I am not exactly seeing PS2 in 2001 in these lineups.

That's probably due to a number of factors like:

- Companies focusing on remakes/rehashes
- Companies focusing on tried and true franchises over and over again
- Gamers demand higher quality games and features and will speak out if devs try to do the old EA trick of gimping sports titles when a new console gen starts. NHL 15 tried it by gimping it big time and the reviews and community killed the game. At 60, likely te lowest scored EA NHL game in history
- Gamers noticing that although games look better than old gens and also have more features and the system has more features/apps, the leaps in quality aren't like the old days. X1/PS4 vs 360/PS3 isn't that great, while comparing Genesis/SNES to PS1/Saturn was huge and then going from PS1/Saturn to PS2/Xbox/GC was also a big leap

 

[yankeessuck]

I have a ps4 and xbox one, I think xbox one's lineup is better. Doesn't matter either way. Its not on another level, that's getting a bit crazy with it.

What games can you play on xbox one and 360? TF and FH2 have been addressed many times over. FH2 is not the same game on 360, whereas TLoU is a port.

Well if it isn't on a different level then it probably doesn't take much of a "play" to say PS4 is better.

And Titanfall?

 

[Intellivision]

I have a ps4 and xbox one, I think xbox one's lineup is better. Doesn't matter either way. Its not on another level, that's getting a bit crazy with it.

What games can you play on xbox one and 360? TF and FH2 have been addressed many times over. FH2 is not the same game on 360, whereas TLoU is a port.

Exactly.

Both platforms have games that can be found on their "sister system". X1 has games that can be played on 360, while PS4 has some that can be played on PS3 too.

The best rated PS4 exclusive retail game that isn't a remake (TLoU) is The Show 14. A baseball series that can still be found on PS3. And during the PS3 days, a game franchise that could be found on PS2.

 

[de3d1]

Well if it isn't on a different level then it probably doesn't take much of a "play" to say PS4 is better.

And Titanfall?

I just think saying something is on another level and then saying it has a clear advantage is different.

TF is on 360

 

[Intellivision]

I just think saying something is on another level and then saying it has a clear advantage is different.

TF is on 360

The 360 version of TF is rated higher than KZ: SF on PS4 by a margin of 10 pts which is a lot (83 vs 73).

 

[yankeessuck]

I just think saying something is on another level and then saying it has a clear advantage is different.

TF is on 360

I think that you like that lineup more and there is nothing wrong with that. Thats about all there really is to it.

 

[de3d1]

Exactly.

Both platforms have games that can be found on their "sister system". X1 has games that can be played on 360, while PS4 has some that can be played on PS3 too.

The best rated PS4 exclusive retail game that isn't a remake (TLoU) is The Show 14. A baseball series that can still be found on PS3. And during the PS3 days, a game franchise that could be found on PS2.

Good points. I also think seasonal weather is great timing on xbox too. I've always played more games during the winter months being inside. I have plenty to do outside during the summer months and if I wanted to play games, there are plenty of great multiplatforms coming out for xbox owners then. Its different everywhere obviously.

 

[yankeessuck]

Good points. I also think seasonal weather is great timing on xbox too. I've always played more games during the winter months being inside. I have plenty to do outside during the summer months and if I wanted to play games, there are plenty of great multiplatforms coming out for xbox owners then. Its different everywhere obviously.

You know you can save summer games for the winter right? Talk about some serious spin.

I don't need PS4 exclusives in the fall. I will just play the multiplatforms. Am I doing this right?

 

[de3d1]

You know you can save summer games for the winter right? Talk about some serious spin.

I don't need PS4 exclusives in the fall. I will just play the multiplatforms. Am I doing this right?

Theres not enough to play even during the summer months really, its so spread out you can easily get them in. Its not a spin, its the same for me every year.

Like 2 ps4 exclusives vs how many multiplatforms?

EDIT:Not to mention I don't want to wait and play games after all my friends have grown bored with them, but on the sony side that doesn't even matter as much because they don't care about online games.

 

[yankeessuck]

Theres not enough to play even during the summer months really, its so spread out you can easily get them in. Its not a spin, its the same for me every year.

Like 2 ps4 exclusives vs how many multiplatforms?

My point whats the difference to you whether they release an exclusive in July vs November? You can play the game whenever you want.

 

[de3d1]

That brings up another point...


Sony do you even do online games in 2015?

Drawn to Death

Great.

 

[de3d1]

My point whats the difference to you whether they release an exclusive in July vs November? You can play the game whenever you want.

I edited my post and responded above. Also why would I want to wait when I have a drove of xbox one games to play this winter? Wait til 2016 like Naughty Dog I guess.

 

[yankeessuck]

I edited my post and responded above. Also why would I want to wait when I have a drove of xbox one games to play this winter? Wait til 2016 like Naughty Dog I guess.

I was talking about you prefer they wait until fall to release these games. A spin because they aren't releasing anything the other 9 months.

Hope they don't release Halo 5 in August like rumored. I'm sure that will be ok though because reasons.