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Are we watching the same show?
She gave her enemies a choice. Robert tried to poison his. Cerci blows up an entire scept full of innocents. Jhon hanged his, including a child. Stannis sent a demon to murder his. Her father wanted to burn everyone for no reason other than paranoia. Balish poisons, murders, and anything else. Arya poisons and murders hers.
So yeah, noble white knight she is. And she has 10s of thousands who chose to follow, fiight, and die for her.
She's not and even two of her biggest advisors are getting worried about her. She's as bad as the others.
She gave then two choices. Bend the knee to the invading army or die by fire. Yeah great choice.
Hell she's doesn't even have a legit claim to the throne now anyways. (Someone did a video showing Cersei is the rightful queen now) But Jon being a legit Targaryen puts him ahead of her and is a better leader in the sense as the people he executed actually needed to be executed.
She could have easily put them in a cell like Tyrion said.
She gave then two choices. Bend the knee to the invading army or die by fire. Yeah great choice.
Hell she's doesn't even have a legit claim to the throne now anyways. (Someone did a video showing Cersei is the rightful queen now) But Jon being a legit Targaryen puts him ahead of her and is a better leader in the sense as the people he executed actually needed to be executed.
She could have easily put them in a cell like Tyrion said.
I don't know what that video is but she would only be the rightful Queen if you believe Robert to have been the rightful King. Which he wasn't.
He shouldn't have to explain. He killed the Mad King who burned people alive.
Not sure if you read the books but it comes off a little better there. You can't just always take the high road. It is a very cynical view of life, but one that says a little pragmatism is needed. We even see a young Ned winning a fight with the help of someone else stabbing his opponent in the back.
Jon Snow seems to be going down the same path. Trying to be so good, but meanwhile he could lose the north.
End of the day he swore to protect. Even fellow gold cloaks looked down on him.
Ned didnt know he planned to burn the whole city. He simply saw it as Jamie switching sides at the last possible moment.
And if that's fine... then just kill Danny now as she's already got a high death by fire list.
Well he had targaryen blood so he had some claim but then they didnt have right to the 7 kingdoms in the first place.
7 kingdoms did fine with their own kings/queens before they showed up on dragons.
when Robert rebelled he became king by a technical right of conquest which also killed the claim of Viserys and Daenerys.
Edit - my mistake Jamie was released from the gold cloaks which actually means he is the rightful king.
Kingsguard not gold cloak but no way would Jamie be the rightful King. I suppose he would be the next in line behind Cersei currently though.
You can't really compare Aery's wanting to burn down the city to Kelly C burning an enemy soldier. If they escalate things then we can talk.
Nope as eldest son Jamie is frightful ruler.
In the books it's
But in both cases the Targaryens have no claim to it now. Hell if Jon makes Gendry a legit Baratheon then it gets more fun
In the books it's
the still very much alive Stannis.
But in both cases the Targaryens have no claim to it now. Hell if Jon makes Gendry a legit Baratheon then it gets more fun
Jamie would be the Lannister heir but the Lannisters don't have a claim to the throne. Cersei is either Queen because she is the mother of Tommen/wife of Robert and there are no other heirs or she is Queen by conquest.
Well if he legitimized Gendry he could only do so as King in which case Gendry probably gets Storm's End but that would put him in the line of succession though.
You are right about the books but the books still have
Shireen and on the fake Baratheon side they still have Myrcella
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Robert's grandmother was actually a Targaryen. Rhaelle Targaryen was also the aunt of the Mad King Aerys, meaning that, ironically, Viserys (dead) and Daenerys would be next up in line. However, Robert's overthrow of the Targaryens and his effective exile of the surviving children would invalidate this claim most likely.
We have to go all the way back to Robert's great-great-great-great-grandfather to find out.
Corwen Baratheon wed a woman named Leyne about 200 years before the show began. They had six children, including Arion, who was Robert's great-great-great grandfather. That bloodline has been snuffed out, but another one of Corwen's children, Elyanna, married Lord Mathin Lannister.
Can you see where this is going?
Mathin Lannister was Tywin Lannister's great-great-grandfather. Which means that when Tywin died, the true inheritor of the Iron Throne was Jaime Lannister.
http://www.businessinsider.com/who-...hrone-after-the-game-of-thrones-finale-2016-6
Either way I think it's safe to assume being pregnant is a lie and when he finds out that plus her betray line will be enough for him to finally kill her.
And final episode...
We have to go all the way back to Robert's great-great-great-great-grandfather to find out.
Corwen Baratheon wed a woman named Leyne about 200 years before the show began. They had six children, including Arion, who was Robert's great-great-great grandfather. That bloodline has been snuffed out, but another one of Corwen's children, Elyanna, married Lord Mathin Lannister.
Can you see where this is going?
Mathin Lannister was Tywin Lannister's great-great-grandfather. Which means that when Tywin died, the true inheritor of the Iron Throne was Jaime Lannister.
http://www.businessinsider.com/who-...hrone-after-the-game-of-thrones-finale-2016-6
Either way I think it's safe to assume being pregnant is a lie and when he finds out that plus her betray line will be enough for him to finally kill her.
And final episode...
Cleganebowl
Hound with the hammer. Hope they don't just kill off Gendry right after bringing him back but wouldn't be the first time they did it
It probably because last episode was so great that anything slower would feel weak. I'll have to rewatch it.
It's still insane to me how good this show looks, yeah it's big budget for a tv show but it rivals and exceeds many feature films who's budgets would dwarf the $10 million or so that are spent per episode here, not only in special effects but wardrobe, locations etc.
"Wasn't sure I'd find ya, thought you'd still be rowing." I almost cried
"Last time I was here, I killed my father with a crossbow," "Last time I was here you killed my son with wildfire,"
'Here we all are, at the edge of the world, at the same moment, heading in the same direction, for the same reason" Shivers
Pretty powerful stuff that no action scene can surpass IMO
I have a hard time picking a favorite, I like many of them for different reasons. I know Olenna Tyrell was one of my favorites, they wrote her part so well and the actress did an awesome job. Tywin Lannister was another, great writing and performance. Sadly they are both gone but I also really like Jon Snow, Dani, The Hound, Bran, Cersei and Jamie again all for different reasons but they all bring a lot to the show as do the actors who play them. It's hard for me to pick a character I don't like, the ones I hated we were supposed to hate so again the writers and actors were doing something right. It's really rare to have a show with this large of a cast and really enjoy just about all of the characters (other than the sand snakes) but they've done it.
Gotta love the Hound. What he says doesn't sound nice but it is always honest, true and to the point.
Hey at least we'll have Winds of Winter to tide us over
(probably still not out)