I do think certain sites are more critical of Microsoft's games. While some of Sony's 2 hour artistic experiments are lauded with superlatives even if the gameplay is nothing special or takes a back seat to the art.
Official Thread Gears 4 **NO SPOILERS**
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s*** yeah there are sites that are hyper critical of MS games. It became a thing to crush on X1 when this gen began. Some sites have literally been able to put food on the table by being over critical of anything Xbox. Some journalists literally became relevant by fanning the flames and coming down hard on Xbox because it was all people spoke about for years. MS may have done that to themselves, but journalists have definitely found a way to capitalize on it and earn dem clicks.
I haven't defected at all. I am still a huge Gears fan. My reasoning for not owning the game is the same reason a lot of places docked points.
I am not an Uncharted fan, but my understanding is that UC4 is a continuation of the last-gen series. Gears 4 had the opportunity to truly evolve and move past the superb games of last-gen, but they didn't....they didn't have the balls and just used the past as a crutch.
That doesn't mean it is a bad game, the beta played solid enough. Everything looks solid, but also seems very familiar. I think 85 is a fair score for the game, it shows it still has plenty of quality and content, but shows its disappointment at not being more than it is.
Wait…….you give Uncharted a pass by saying it’s a continuation of a last gen series, whatever that means. And then say Gears team didn’t have balls by using the past as a crutch, da fck.
Uncharted 4 is awesome but it brought nothing new. It just did what the franchise was always good at like great storytelling with fun action set pieces coupled with a beautiful coat of paint. Gears 4 was developed by a new team and the fact that it came out as well as it did is an achievement in itself. But you wanted something entirely new and radical which I think is an unrealistic expectation. You really do remind of mainstream review sites who praise Uncharted 4 and then are down on Gears 4. Both excelled at what they do best and yet one is praised for it while the other is penalized by it.
Well, it IS a fantastic game, IMO, and a lot of sites have awarded it 9- 9.5. I was a bit annoyed initially for the same reasons you are, but after playing it, I've fallen in love all over again... well, once you get past the DeeBees in the beginning.
I can't stand when people ask for change and say things like they had the opportunity to evolve the game and then give no examples of what should have been done. The game feels faster and better in every way imaginable thanks to being 60fps. New weapons are fun. Like what does one expect them to do. Overhaul the enter game? Then it's not Gears of War anymore.
85 is by no means a joke. However, I don't think that Gears 4 warranted it either. It's one thing to have expectations, it's another to hold a game to them in any kind of official review capacity. It's a crap assed way to review a product for a couple of reasons. One you are docking it for something it's not, not something it does or doesn't do well. It's not even tangible and it means very little to your reader/viewer outside the well...it coulda shoulda been something different. It's a self-centered bias. Why are your ambiguous expectations of what something should be more important than what the devs want it to be, or that matter, the expectations of the other fans? Lastly, keep reviews focused on real, tangible concerns related to gameplay and content. Gears 4 has no major technical concerns, has a really good campaign, and a bevy of cooperative and competitive options. Hell, it should rate higher than the others for the fact that its multiplayer actually works, meaning the weapons actually work for once. 85 is no joke, but it has enough content and does it so well, that it warrants better than that.
I do want to unpack this a bit. I think there is a misunderstanding of evolution here, as in evolving happens slowly, incrementally over time, not sudden sweeping changes. However, Gears 4 has come in house to its own studio, introduced a new game engine, new weapons, new enemies, new cast members, new game modes, and has a new competitive push. I'd say they've made quite a few changes while paying homage to its heritage. Additionally, there really isn't any strong evidence that drastically changing Gears' would actually result in good ideas, let alone benefit the game. Ironically, the parts of the game that players are indicating they enjoy the most are the parts that harken back to the past games, not the newly introduced elements, save some of the new weapons of course. Expectations are one thing, but it's hardly a reasonable metric for review purposes.
I think most of you have missed Menaces original point. Since when is 85 a bad score? Simple answer. Never. 85 is a great score.
I never said it was. It's a great score. My point is that in light of everything that Gears 4 does so well, it does deserve better than that.
Not for a generation defining game. Gears of War 4 is Xbox One's defining game. The game people buy an Xbox for. Uncharted 4 is the PS4's defining game. The game people buy a PS4 for. The two are equal. I loved Uncharted 4 but i could easily argue that Gears 4 is twice the masterpiece that UC4 is. Like i said, it's the total package. Single player, co-op, Horde, multiplayer. Name another game that has four game modes half as good as the 4 i just mentioned. I'll give you all night, all week, all month, the rest of this gen. There isn't one. There won't be one.
I know last gen reviewers broke the scale giving out inflated scores but if GTA IV is a 98 then Gears 4 is a 108. You can't go back and fix the scale by handing out low scores to games that deserve AAA status. You just can't. And my point was, why are they only doing it to Xbox games? Forza Horizon 3 is a 91. The first true exclusive to hit 90 on meta. It's almost as if some reviewers tried to underrate it but let it hit 90 just to show that they're not biased. It's horsesh!t. That game is a 98 if exclusive on PS4. No doubt about it.
Perceived bias aside, I'm moving along in the game. I'm onAct two now.
Can't wait to see where the game goes. Seems like I've done a ton of stuff already.
The pacing feels real good so far. Switching up from the robotic enemy to the more traditional monster type enemies came at a good time. The robots were fun. Basically Terminator done right.
The bike ride was super cool an unexpected.
The bike ride was super cool an unexpected.
Can't wait to see where the game goes. Seems like I've done a ton of stuff already.
Lmao. Yup, like i said. The 360 days are back with Gears. Just got teamed up with 4 randoms that all had a hard on for each other apparently. They're like "TD can you quit? We don't need you lolol." So i plugged in my headset for the first time and said "Why do you want me to quit? I'm getting that MVP ribbon." They then proceeded to talk trash to me all game and guess who had the most kills? I did. But we lost 5-2 because they all sucked. One of them was like "Uh guys, we should probably do better next time we try and troll someone."
Classic. I love this game.
Classic. I love this game.
I didn't give it a pass. I haven't played it or not know much about UC4. I was simply highlighting that one is a continuation of a series and the other series was done and dusted and left a clean slate for The Coalition to work with.
I didn't want entirely new and radical at all, that isn't what evolution is.
Well reviews are joke anyway, but it doesn't stop people bitching about some arbitrary score that has no impact on their enjoyment of a product. You want to talk self-centred bias, how about people bitching that their opinion is somehow more valid than another. The game got it what it got, end of. People are only pissed because the meta score doesn't meet their expectations.
My Gears Gamefly should be in today or tomorrow. I'm a sad panda that I don't have an S and a 4k TV.
Don't worry PV. Gears 4 is still the cleanest looking X1 game since Ryse.
For me its campaign wise - UE/1>4>2>3 (but they are all good/fun games)
PVP wise - 4>3>UE>1>2 (2 had the most busted PVP and s***ty hit detection!)
Horde Wise 4>3>2 (1/UE had no Horde)
I loved the ENDING in 4. Answered a ton of questions from the Original Trilogy but also then that reveal! Sweet.
Me too PV but I rocked this game on an LCD and still thought it looked great.My Gears Gamefly should be in today or tomorrow. I'm a sad panda that I don't have an S and a 4k TV.
I just beat the campaign and may play it again right away.
Trust me you don't need a 4K TV . this game looked freaking beautiful on my 24 inch 1080p gaming monitor . You won't be disappointed . there were points I was like how in the hell did they pull this off on the hardware in the Xbox one. I can't even imagine what kind of visuals they will be able to pull off with the Scorpio.My Gears Gamefly should be in today or tomorrow. I'm a sad panda that I don't have an S and a 4k TV.
It sucks that the Play Anywhere program is only for digital purchases. But I understand why.
I forgot about the program and bought physical copies Gears 4 and FH3.
I forgot about the program and bought physical copies Gears 4 and FH3.
Looks like i won't be able to enjoy the multiplayer much longer. Well competitive anyway. Apparently ever since i hit 70 and got a gold medal next to my name i'm being paired up with MLG clans. Yet, my teams still suck like they always do. Gears has always been awful trying to play with randoms but this is just ridiculous. eSports ftl, i want to rack up kills on scrubs. Come on Coalition.
I went from 1.35 k/d to 1.23 in no time once the competition ramped up. It was okay having a trash team in Gears: UE. At least when your stupid teammates get knocked off 15 seconds into the round you're facing a 1 on 3 situation. instead of a 1 on 4. Oh well, if i have to play social matches or only play competitive when friends are on whatever. Gears 4 cause it's 4x the frustration!
I went from 1.35 k/d to 1.23 in no time once the competition ramped up. It was okay having a trash team in Gears: UE. At least when your stupid teammates get knocked off 15 seconds into the round you're facing a 1 on 3 situation. instead of a 1 on 4. Oh well, if i have to play social matches or only play competitive when friends are on whatever. Gears 4 cause it's 4x the frustration!
haha, you're pissed off that you're getting rekt by players that are better than you and are blaming the game. Hysterical.
There ain't nobody better than TD at Gears son. Gun on gun you're done. Very rarely do i lose a shotgun battle. When your team let's the other team get all the power weapons you're gonna lose.
I had a win/loss of like 1.5 was winning 5-10 in a row with my squad. Guys i met that night, we just played together and did good. Last night with randoms i think i lost 12 games in a row at one point. I went 14-6 and we had a 5 on 4 advantage and lost. What more can do? Best rename that MVP ribbon to the TD ribbon.
If your team doesn't communicate and let's the other team horde the power weapons you're gonna get smashed i don't care if you're GoldGlove himself.
Well, I think I'm finished with the game. Horde is filled with quitters or people who don't know the classes.