Next-Iteration Gaming: Scorpio, Neo, and NX

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Flynn said:
That's a valid concern. I've been working with a guy at "Video Only" for the last year and half, watching and testing out their display model of last year's LG OLED's.

This baby runs for hours and hours a day. We calibrated it in their 'show room', and made sure it wasn't set to the typical in-store show-room ridiculous brights/contrasts - but it was set how it should be set for optimal viewing. That TV's been used every day since then, running hours and hours of samples - some with logos that sit on the screen for a pretty long time.

Over a year now, and no burn-in.

Plus, some do offer an "anti-burn-in" feature which can help get rid of any trace burn-in. It's not perfect, but it helps.

Bottom line - if you calibrate it right, you'll probably never see burn in at all, especially if you are careful to not leave it on some static image for too long... but I get the concern. I've felt the same way... but I think LG has mostly dealt with that problem.
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Most likely wouldn't happen but im the type of person that burn in would happen to. my last Panasonic plasma which was a 2014 model had a nice ID channel logo burned into the bottom right corner . That's why this time I made sure to stay clear from any technology that's even slightly prone to burn in . Went with the fald led back lighting tech this time . My Visio P 65 puts out just as deep black as my plasma did but certainly has more of a pop to it .

This set I have puts up the most fantastic picture I've ever seen in my life . Everyone that comes over my house agrees as well . I never really been sold on oled at all. I just don't see that big of a difference or the value. money was not an issue for me either when I purchased this recent set . Best 2k investment I have made . Lol
 
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Entreri804 said:
Most likely wouldn't happen but im the type of person that burn in would happen to. my last Panasonic plasma which was a 2014 model had a nice ID channel logo burned into the bottom right corner . That's why this time I made sure to stay clear from any technology that's even slightly prone to burn in . Went with the fald led back lighting tech this time . My Visio P 65 puts out just as deep black as my plasma did but certainly has more of a pop to it .

This set I have puts up the most fantastic picture I've ever seen in my life . Everyone that comes over my house agrees as well . I never really been sold on oled at all. I just don't see that big of a difference or the value. money was not an issue for me either when I purchased this recent set . Best 2k investment I have made . Lol
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I hear that.

I think the competition to OLED can get you close, and given the price difference (and non-burn in susceptibility), it probably is the better choice overall... I would just feel like I was not getting "the best", and if I'm going to blow thousands on a TV - I want the best... And OLED is the only thing close to reference quality.
 
JinCA said:
Also be careful and do your research when buying a 4K HDR set if you intend to use it for games, input lag can be a big issue for many of the sets if you want to use HDR. Some of the newer 4K sets that get high marks for gaming are tested in gaming mode which for many of them disables HDR all together. If you play outside of gaming mode that ups the input lag quite a bit on most of those sets and I'm not talking just twice as bad, it's more like 4 or more times as much.
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Interesting. I hadn't heard that about input lag. I don't play online much, but even still, I don't like the idea of 4x input lag, unless that turns out to be a miniscule amount.

Entreri804 said:
when you do purchase one and I cannot stress this enough make sure it supports both formats, Dolby vision , and HDR. It's hard to say which one will win the format war but you you'll be selling yourself short and taking a major gamble by not investing in a set that supports both . In my opinion doubly vision is the better of the two based off my own test watching the same movie (mad max)in both formats .
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Yes, I'd heard about the two different formats. I believe I heard HDR format recommended, but as you say, getting a set that supports both would be safest. Hopefully by the time I buy one, the format wars will be decided.
 
About time to turn the thread over. Someone make a worthy post, and I'll split it off.

edit: never mind, we can just let this convo run its course here, rather than locking it up.
 
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The true different between 1080p and 2160p. The PS4 may too be capable of excellent 4K graphics.
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The true different between 1080p and 2160p. The PS4 may too be capable of excellent 4K graphics.
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Good chart. No matter which video card it is, the ballpark differences are similar. The numbers show each resolution's avg score. And by the looks of it, the 1080p avg is usually about 2.5x better than the 4k avg.

So Scorpio's 4x the power of X1 should be able to 4k the res with power to spare for other stuff.
 
Flynn said:
But you're wrong. Your senses are misleading.

I guarantee you I could set up a scenario with a 1080p picture source on an OLED/HDR display and compare it to a 4k source on a 4k non-HDR/non-OLED display, and you'd think the OLED/HDR picture was better. Everyone does. I've personally run such tests with unsuspecting folks, and it's always the same. They say, "oh - that one looks so much better! It's so crisp, bright, and beautiful!"
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nope
 
Just look @ the slide I believe Andy posted where the current standard only displays 20% of the colors the human eye can see. HDR covers like 90% of the color spectrum the eye can see so yeah that should be a slap in the face better picture. That is the equivalent to the gap in power between scorpio and neo, absolutely huge... :hehe:
 
jimmyD said:
Just look @ the slide I believe Andy posted where the current standard only displays 20% of the colors the human eye can see. HDR covers like 90% of the color spectrum the eye can see so yeah that should be a slap in the face better picture. That is the equivalent to the gap in power between scorpio and neo, absolutely huge... :hehe:
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I guess you didn't know/are ill informed about SDR...
Some SDR displays are 10bit which means some can achieve billions of colors.
The rest of your post is trolling.
 
VaLLiancE said:
Yup every set I purchased since 2009 both 1080p and 2160p are 10bit panels.
No not every set is 10bits and no not every HDR set does billions of colors.
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Yes but hdr isn't just colors right?
 
Interesting TV discussion but maybe 'separate thread' worthy?

Take it to the Electronics forum, ya ingrates!

So it's looking like the PS4 slim will go on sale Sept 14. Basically a PS4, just a bit smaller. No upgrades, but probably a reduced price, maybe by $50 or so.

That being said, anyone want to take a guess at the Neo's price? I think minimum $399.
 
Rollins said:
Interesting TV discussion but maybe 'separate thread' worthy?

Take it to the Electronics forum, ya ingrates!

So it's looking like the PS4 slim will go on sale Sept 14. Basically a PS4, just a bit smaller. No upgrades, but probably a reduced price, maybe by $50 or so.

That being said, anyone want to take a guess at the Neo's price? I think minimum $399.
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If it's the specs we saw before I would guess $399 as well, it probably isn't costing them anything more to make now than the original PS4 did when it launched. Of course I'm basing that on not really knowing how it all works lol it just seems like this is the best tech they can put into the box when factoring in cost, heat and power consumption at this point in time much like the standard PS4 was in 2013.
 
VaLLiancE said:
Yup every set I purchased since 2009 both 1080p and 2160p are 10bit panels.
No not every set is 10bits and no not every HDR set does billions of colors.
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Smart guy, last time I bought a tv was in 2009 and the people at the store could never tell me which sets had 10bit panels so I just gave up and bought an LG that was $400 off at the time.
 
Yes it is. See the link I posted to Andy . That's the whole point . So you can see close to the number of natural colors the human eye can see. One of the examples they used foe hdr was for the first time ever being able to see the red in the coke formula .
 
Entreri804 said:
Yes it is. See the link I posted to Andy . That's the whole point . So you can see close to the number of natural colors the human eye can see. One of the examples they used foe hdr was for the first time ever being able to see the red in the coke formula .
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Wait... Coke is red?

HDR > my eyes
 
Ok, let's lock this one up. I'll start up a new thread.
 
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