Official Thread Playstation VR (formerly Morpheus)

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Shawn Jelsic said:
Word of mouth IS the experience. Its a deeper experience than what the kiosk will offer. For those who can't get the experience from a friend or family member, well...that's what the kiosk are for.
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What the deuce? This thread has gone into bizarro land.

Word of mouth IS the experience? I've read all this thread, and for the first 7000 posts, you were saying that you can't comment, until you've experienced it. Now I just need to hear what someone else's experience of it was like, to have experienced it?

Anyway, thanks for the quotes about the psvr in Aus. We always get shafted with launches, so its comforting to know they're actively trying to get hands on experiences out there.
 
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Plainview said:
You're being dense. You don't have a clue what word of mouth is. Word of mouth is just that, word... Of ... Mouth.

I'm going to put it as simply as I can, again.

Word of mouth: Dude, you have to buy the PSVR. It's awesome.
Not word of mouth: Dude, come over and try my PSVR so you can try it for yourself.

There's nothing wrong o b spiteful about now you're completely wrong. It's as simple as that. It's nothing new. You dig yourself into these intellectually dishonest arguments and you try every way to make yourself correct and it never works, why, because you're wrong......
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LoL! Yet, you clearly have several quotes telling you how they plan to expand the product into more consumers hands and what that most effective solution is. It's one in the same because one automatically leads to the other -- especially if that individual owns the thing.

At this point, you're just trying to save face.
 
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Did someone say Richard Marx???

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Shawn Jelsic said:
LoL! Yet, you clearly have several quotes telling you how they plan to expand the product into more consumers hands and what that most effective solution is. It's one in the same because one automatically leads to the other -- especially if that individual owns the thing.

At this point, you're just trying to save face.
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I know what Sony said. They said the best way for them to move the PSVR is to have people try it. You're the one who was going on and on about "word of mouth" earlier. Then, your irrational, and illogical claim fell flat on its face. When that didn't work you changed the definition of "word of mouth." In your world, word of mouth means, actually trying it yourself.
 
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I know what Sony said. They said the best way for them to move the PSVR is to have people try it. You're the one who was going on and on about "word of mouth" earlier. Then, your irrational, and illogical claim fell flat on its face. When that didn't work you changed the definition of "word of mouth." In your world, word of mouth means, actually trying it yourself.
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LoL! Ok, let's look at a similar experience about lending/borrowing:

"Word of mouth is the most powerful tool in helping a book sell. What better word of mouth could a book have than lots of people eagerly borrowing and lending it? If reading a book for free destroyed a book’s chances of success then why do publishing companies give away thousands upon thousands of copies of books in the form of Advanced Readers Copies (ARCs) every single year?"

Like I said, if you owned the movie and told someone how great that movie is, they are going to want to see the movie. If you loaned or let them watch the movie, you have just created word of mouth.

Since VR cannot be explained but you happened to be the only one on the block that has one, you're going to naturally tell your friends or family about it, and they will demand to use it. Through their experience one or two is going to happen: they are either going to go out and buy one and tell someone else or they'll tell someone else where they got the experience from, which is you, and then its a chain reaction after that.
 
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Shawn Jelsic said:
LoL! Ok, let's look at a similar experience about lending/borrowing:

"Word of mouth is the most powerful tool in helping a book sell. What better word of mouth could a book have than lots of people eagerly borrowing and lending it? If reading a book for free destroyed a book’s chances of success then why do publishing companies give away thousands upon thousands of copies of books in the form of Advanced Readers Copies (ARCs) every single year?"

Like I said, if you owned the movie and told someone how great that movie is, they are going to want to see the movie. If you loaned or let them watch the movie, you have just created word of mouth.

Since VR cannot be explained but you happened to be the only one on the block that has one, you're going to naturally tell your friends or family about it, and they will demand to use it. Through their experience one or two is going to happen: they are either going to go out and buy one and tell someone else or they'll tell someone else where they got the experience from, which is you, and then its a chain reaction after that.
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No........that's..........not..........word........of..........mouth. You don't get to make up definitions to suit your argument.
 
Word of mouth is deeper than actually experiencing it for yourself at a kiosk. That sounds very wrong and very dirty.
 
Plainview said:
No........that's..........not..........word........of..........mouth. You don't get to make up definitions to suit your argument.
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I didn't make that definition up, someone else did. LoL! I'm just quoting them. Would you like the source?
 
On these past two pages, so many words, are saying so little.

Just agree to disagree on the definition of oral stimulation, my darlings.

Edit: And I'm not sure how many people would be willing to lend their VR. Lending someone a book or a movie is a $10 risk.

But if you're that trusting, can I borrow your ps4, HDTV, and all the money you have access to? ;) jk.

I get where you're coming from through, but I don't know if "word of mouth" is the correct term.

My ex was in his 40's, and his friends were in their 50's. After a night of drinks and a few games of Wii, 4 more Nintendo Wii's found a household by the end of the year because of a single night of their experiencing it.
 
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Plainview said:
Then they're dumb for saying it and you're naive for creating a multipage flawed argument using it. It's fourth grade English.
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Because the quoting window shrinks after so man words, it took me a minute to figure out what it was you were talking about. This is just nitpicking. I think I explained to you very well how the two coincide with one another. Therefore, I didn't think it was necessary to clarify myself any further. Apparently I was wrong. LoL! But ok....I'll let you have your moment. :)

What else can we discuss here? Oh I got it! Sony has a Taipei conference coming up tomorrow on.....PlayStation VR.
 
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How many friends do you have with a PS4? I have zero.

One friend has a PS3 and that's good enough for him.

Finding someone with a PS4 and PSVR could be difficult.
 
Bellybama nailed it (again).

The Wii caught on by HANDS-ON experience. I didn't convince my 70 year old mother to buy a $300 console by simply calling her and telling her she needed one, she had to play it hands-on to be convinced. Now if I called her to tell her about a new book she needed to read she would likely go out and pick up a copy, that is word-of-mouth sales. No way Sony is going to move VR units by word-of-mouth. It will require hands-on play and there is only so much they can show in a kiosk demo so they will need something that blows peoples socks off.
 
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From Merriam-Webster

Word of mouth

orally communicated; also : generated from or reliant on oral publicity
 
Shawn Jelsic said:
VERY difficult. Luckily it'll work online.
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People are going to randomly put their address online so some stranger can come over and use their expensive PSVR? Is that what you're saying? If so, please link me to someone suggesting this disaster waiting to happen.
 
Plainview said:
People are going to randomly put their address online so some stranger can come over and use their expensive PSVR? Is that what you're saying? If so, please link me to someone suggesting this disaster waiting to happen.
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Lmao!

No. I was explaining the solo experience initially when you don't have anyone to play with. The most you could get from something like that is basically recommendations and/or said experiences with certain games.

Word of mouth, for the most part, will still require some hands on experience/some form of a demo before the majority to bite and its as simple as that. I mean, honestly, no one is going to risk forking over their hard earned cash on something they don't understand. So 9 times out of 10, those individuals are going to demand a test drive rather than a lot of hot air, hype. The link begins with everyone else you are in contact with. If you have the device and you tell them your experience, more than likely they'll want to see what you saw. Call them over, give them a spin and now the seed has been planted.

It doesn't matter if they have the system or not. An experience is still an experience at the end of the day. Who knows, maybe that/those same people will come back over for more and a bigger crowd or maybe they'll buy their own. Point is it can work with a great number of things including games, consoles or even some "niche" VR device.
 
Bro, stop saying, "word of mouth". Find a new phrase, please.
 
So, I heard about porn being filmed for the Vive and stuff, but why can't that work for the PSVR/Oculus?

If its a movie filmed with VR in mind, wont it cover all of them? They're the same at the end if the day, aren't they?
 
Bellybama said:
So, I heard about porn being filmed for the Vive and stuff, but why can't that work for the PSVR/Oculus?

If its a movie filmed with VR in mind, wont it cover all of them? They're the same at the end if the day, aren't they?
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It does work with the Rift. And the reason nothing like this has been announced for PSVR is because Sony is trying to cover games first before any non gaming content. In order for the device to catch on, it needs games as it is a games system first and a media device second.
 
Didn't all of this stem from people saying Sony really needs to find ways for people to experience the thing, and that just talking about it doesn't really give you a good idea of what it is? Word of mouth can generate interest to try it out. If they can't try it, It will be harder to sell. Simple.

Once you get to lending and experiencing, it's not "word of mouth" anymore. It CAN get you to a point of wanting to try it though. The main issue being it's expensive and unique, so unlike with movies or even games, the barrier of entry is much higher. Not many people are going to buy one on a whim.

This is what enthusiasts are good for! Youtubers would be the best way short of actual experience, as you see footage AND you see their reactions. These can give extremely good positive buzz (word of mouth), and drive people to try it at a kiosk. I think the GearVR has taken off largely because of word of mouth, tech articles, kiosks, and Youtube videos coupled with a lower barrier of entry in price. It is of course limited because the GearVR is only available for specific phones.
 
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Didn't all of this stem from people saying Sony really needs to find ways for people to experience the thing, and that just talking about it doesn't really give you a good idea of what it is? Word of mouth can generate interest to try it out. If they can't try it, It will be harder to sell. Simple.

Once you get to lending and experiencing, it's not "word of mouth" anymore. It CAN get you to a point of wanting to try it though. The main issue being it's expensive and unique, so unlike with movies or even games, the barrier of entry is much higher. Not many people are going to buy one on a whim.

This is what enthusiasts are good for! Youtubers would be the best way short of actual experience, as you see footage AND you see their reactions. These can give extremely good positive buzz (word of mouth), and drive people to try it at a kiosk. I think the GearVR has taken off largely because of word of mouth, tech articles, kiosks, and Youtube videos coupled with a lower barrier of entry in price. It is of course limited because the GearVR is only available for specific phones.
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But if you're talking to them because you bought one and experienced it and they began talking to someone else because you let them experience yours, I think it kinda goes the same way. If anything, its word of mouth and advertising both coexisting in one.

Anyway..... Why are we talking about this again? I was so getting engrossed in the other discussion Belly brought up. Seem to be some potentially good conversion in that one.
 
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