Right it seems but that dispels the silly peoples attempt to argue that full bc wasn't possible(its possible without keeping the old GPU but more work)
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Wait I thought the other side was arguing "it's possible through half-emulation/it-doesn't-count-as-emulation emulation." This is so confusing.
I was lead to believe this was just a PS4 and you put a game in and it just works. Apparently, based on the two articles posted, they have to do some coding to make them work on the Pro. To me that is a new platform, not a PS4. Now keep in mind, that is just my opinion. I feel the same about the Scorpio, even though Phil claims it is part of the Xbox One "family".
The only thing that separates generations is compatibility, sometimes peripherals. Generations are gone. If the games of the prior generation are still able to be played natively, not through streaming, it's just hardware upgrades. That's the future of console gaming. There will be upgrades to hardware like there is for phones. Eventually some games will stop playing as generations/OSs go on; like what happens with phones.
The console market is now just like the mobile market.
The PlayStation market isn't completely like the cell phone market and ps5 will be the ps4 family successor.
It'll be faster and have better graphics and will play the prior generation's games and it'll come out sooner than generations past. Eight year console generations are gone. Every two/three years there will be a new, faster version of each family. Speaking of Microsoft and Sony, of course.
Generations have never worked that way. The ps2 played ps1 naively, not streamed. The ps3 played ps2 and ps1 games. Xbox 360 plays Xbox games. The Xbox one plays 360 games. PC plays everything despite new generations all the time.
There's never been a new generation of PC. It's all evolutionary hardware that comes out yearly.
Xbox 360 didn't play BC games out of the box.
Generations in consoles lasted six to eight years. That a generation. New hardware every two to three years is not a generation. Generations are dead. It's hardware revisions and upgrades like cell phones.
It being x86 based should be bc I agree.
I don't see launch consoles with just launch console specs lasting 8 years anymore..and I think Sony will continue the mid cycle upgrades and than release its successor/s.
Ms is a different story.
Not sure if serious? How could you come to that conclusion after what you posted? Did you read it?
The funniest thing about these mid generation upgrades is that being at the top of console gaming now almost costs more than mid range PC gaming.
Yes it did. They made a big deal about Halo and Halo 2 being BC right outta the box (although you had to buy the SKU that came with the HDD)
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It took time for the games to be made BC. Full Spectrum Warrior wasn't BC. We had to wait for it to be made BC just like we do on the Xbox One. Halo was in the first batch of BC games.
There's no difference. It's just faster hardware. They'll offer nothing different other than better hardware. It's actually less of a generational leap than cell phones.
Yup, read it and serious...
The question is, DID YOU READ IT?
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There's nothing to differentiate new generations now. Nintendo is the only one. Sony and Microsoft will just be putting out hardware refreshes ever few years. There's nothing wrong with that. They see the market it there. People want newer and faster all the time. Hardware cycles will be three years max. There's no more generations. They're cycles now.
So PlayStation consoles 1-3 have no generations. It doesn't work like that. Consoles having backwards compatibility doesn't mean anything. Microsoft nor Sony have made any comments that they are ending traditional life cycles. They have only been assertive that they are not abandoning Xbox One and PS4 games with these mid-cycle console releases.
There were five, six and eight years between hardware upgrades. We're not at three years. In three years, maybe even less, there will be another hardware revision. That's not generational.
Being that none of the hands on reports say anything about a blurry image but actually say the opposite I think you are either making assumptions with no basis in fact or you never really wanted one to begin with. Did you read the rest of the article? also how the hell are the textures out of the 90's? do console games now look that bad to you?
No one said that. That's ducking the point. The point is backwards compatibility doesn't define generations. And neither Sony nor Microsoft have said anything about whether these mid-cycle consoles are anything but something to hold us over until the next generation.
How do you define a generation difference? What do you think separates a "generation"?
Console generations are usually six to eight years apart. So some time after 2019, the Xbox Two and PS5 will released to replace the Xbox One and PS4.
No. That's just the typical time it takes for console makers to announce their next generation console. And neither Sony nor Microsoft have said they are abandoning this strategy.
Lol, that shot isn't representative of the game at all.
Here is a video-
Nevermind that textures are far more than just diffuse maps anymore (which is why video is better as so much data is not expressed in stills)
A number on the console determines a generation for you?
Microsoft has said that consoles generations are done, "The future is without console generations."
You left out the rest of the quote. "For us, we think the future is without console generation." They use "I think" and "maybe" a lot in their talk. They aren't committed to this as you say.