Raiding a Mexican drug lord's home.....

Okay, but let's be honest. It's a business first. If there wasn't money to be made, they wouldn't be trying to cure sh*t.

And let's also be honest that thoses businesses are filled with caring people who studied hard and chose that field with the hopes of curing diseases and work for those businesses because they provide the means for them to be able to do so.
 
Okay, but let's be honest. It's a business first. If there wasn't money to be made, they wouldn't be trying to cure sh*t.

And you do realize that businesses need to make money in order to pay their employees, satisfy investors, invest billions to develop new drugs, and stay in business correct? That's how the economy works, well unless you prefer to live in North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, or Soviet Russia.

And who isn't in it for itself in some case? Inefficient, unsustainable, and wasteful government? Most politicians are the scum of the earth. There is corruption in all levels and the 'civil servants' within them aren't really doing what they do for the good of the people, they are doing it for cushy/secure jobs with lots of holidays and unsustainable pensions that are causing states and municipalities to go broke.
 
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And who isn't in it for itself in some case? Inefficient, unsustainable, and wasteful government? Most politicians are the scum of the earth. There is corruption in all levels and the 'civil servants' within them aren't really doing what they do for the good of the people, they are doing it for cushy/secure jobs with lots of holidays and unsustainable pensions that are causing states and municipalities to go broke.

You're acting as if corporations aren't the ones buying said politicians.
 
You're acting as if corporations aren't the ones buying said politicians.

I'm not going to argue that. But it takes two to tango. Many politicians are complete liars, and act like they are for the people, yet their only interest is themselves and getting re-elected.

If I have to choose between capitalism and communism/socialism, I'll choose capitalism every time. I find most politicians to be worse than most executives.
 
Pharma companies are also filled with a lot of good hardworking people who have helped cure a lot of diseases, illnesses, and conditions that would have proven a death sentence just 40 years ago. Not to mention the life expectancy has almost doubled in the past 150 years with the help of modern medicine.

Big pharma is a very high risk, high reward industry. Many pharma companies spend and lose billions in the R&D process, and need a breakthrough drug in order to stay in business.

Comparing pharma companies to drug lords is just complete and utter nonsense. When was the last time a drug lord helped create a new vaccine or cure a disease? My grandfather would have passed away 10-times over by now if it weren't for the help of modern medicine/drugs.

I'm also sure there are a lot of good hard working drug dealers.
I'm sure the pharma companies that wait till right before a patent runs out on a drug and then makes a small change to get a new patent and then wines and dines doctors to push the new drug care so much.
A lot of the cost for drug makers are imposed by the federal government because drug companies did a lot of sick stuff in the past so they brought it on themselves.

As for comparing the two, i just think they are both for profit companies and on an individual basis one company can be better than the other. but on an industry wide basis i don't see much difference between weed companies and viagra ones.
 
I'm also sure there are a lot of good hard working drug dealers.
I'm sure the pharma companies that wait till right before a patent runs out on a drug and then makes a small change to get a new patent and then wines and dines doctors to push the new drug care so much.
A lot of the cost for drug makers are imposed by the federal government because drug companies did a lot of sick stuff in the past so they brought it on themselves.

As for comparing the two, i just think they are both for profit companies and on an individual basis one company can be better than the other. but on an industry wide basis i don't see much difference between weed companies and viagra ones.

How many lives have pharma companies saved or significantly extended with their products? It's likely in the billions by now.

How many people have cartels/drug lords saved? Maybe a couple. How many have they purposely tortured and killed? Probably in the tens of thousands.

Unlike the soldiers for these cartels, pharma companies are made up of good, educated, hardworking middle class people who are truly proud to save millions of lives with the drugs they are working on. I would know, my girlfriend is one of them. Do they agree with all of the policies of their companies? No. But they are doing a lot more good than harm. I don't know if the cartel workers have the same intention when they put people in oil barrels and burn them alive.

I'm far from up to date on this subject, but from what I've recently read, it sounds like compared to the EU's organization, the FDA is outdated and slow with some of it's policies, preventing people from getting potentially life-saving treatment, and running up the costs of R&D.


It seems though that you just have a problem that these companies make a profit. But that's how capitalism works. If you don't like it, then propose an alternative. Otherwise, you could always try moving to North Korea, Cuba, or Venezuela.
 
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It seems though that you just have a problem that these companies make a profit. But that's how capitalism works. If you don't like it, then propose an alternative. Otherwise, you could always try moving to North Korea, Cuba, or Venezuela.

I started to put together links and info but i thought otherwise after reading this part of you post. No where did i say anything about profit or me having a problem with it. I just put most drug companies on the same level.

And invoking the hitler style argument is where i get off....
 
I started to put together links and info but i thought otherwise after reading this part of you post. No where did i say anything about profit or me having a problem with it. I just put most drug companies on the same level.

And instead of proposing a solution you consider to stand by your ridiculous stance where corporations that develop drugs that help billions of people are somehow on the same level as drug lords and cartels that purposely kill and torture thousands of people , costing law enforcement hundreds of millions of dollars.

It's easy to bitch and moan about corporations being evil and greedy, but pharma is an extremely high stakes business. In order to spend the billions needed to develop new drugs, you need to make billions in profit from other drugs and also make a profit on top of that to keep your shareholders happy. If you slash the prices on drugs and treatments or make them free for everybody, you put all the pharmas out of business and have no new drugs.
 
So this guy had 22 billion dollars in his house? What happened to nobody keeps their money in a safe house? Sums it all up for me.
 
So this guy had 22 billion dollars in his house? What happened to nobody keeps their money in a safe house? Sums it all up for me.
In your mattress is where money is the safest.
 
I could be wrong but wasn't it "no one keeps all their money in their safe house"?

It was something like. "You're dumb if you think anyone keeps their cash in a safe house like Scarface. All that money is being put back into the system". Clearly, that's false.
 
Do not give a poopy. 22 billion all in one place, r******d. Especially for a high risk target like a drug lord.
Those that tried to get it probably where fed to earlier shown Feline Companions in rather gruesome and slow manners.
 
You mean it WAS the safest place until it bacame common knowledge where most people keep their stacks...

Ohhh!
Yes, for a brief moment in time it became very unsafe because people knew about it. But now that people know about it they don't bother looking there because they know that you know that they know. But keep it on the downlow because I don't want them to find out.
 
Yes, for a brief moment in time it became very unsafe because people knew about it. But now that people know about it they don't bother looking there because they know that you know that they know. But keep it on the downlow because I don't want them to find out.
I hide gold coins in socks. Worse case scenario, I can use them as morning star flails and bullet deflectors. I have it all figured out.