Sony, Once Again, Is Holding Back the Gaming Future

Even as someone who plays a lot of Xbox Live, only uses PS4 for single player and would like to reconnect with former 360 buddies who are now PS4 exclusive...I have no issues with this.

Community drives sales towards ecosystems. There’s plenty of gamers who can afford an X but play all their multiplats on PS4 because that’s where their friends are. Sony earned this competitive advantage by pricing their console $100 less with better performance to begin the gen. It’s unreasonable to expect them to give back that advantage.

Smart of Microsoft to play this up for some good PR but I highly doubt they’d be making this push if they were still in the lead. Doesn’t matter what Spencer says. Microsoft investors would not go for this if Microsoft had the bigger instal base.
 
It's funny seeing Union get "upset" over this as no one here actually plays multiplayer games.
Let's see here. You have been a member here for 6 months, while the rest of us have been friends and members of the same forum for the past 15-20 years. You have no idea what we and don't play.
 
Let's see here. You have been a member here for 6 months, while the rest of us have been friends and members of the same forum for the past 15-20 years. You have no idea what we and don't play.

Oh please. Son, I was a PlanetXBox member circa 1998. I'm as OG as it gets.

Also...(http://unionvgf.com/index.php?threads/which-way-do-you-lean-multiplayer-single-player.160506/) So I do have some idea. Take you for instance. You play mostly single player games

Thirdly, this article was written because of Fortnite. The biggest game in the world that, for some reason, the Union largely ignores. An anomaly that will normalize over the duration of 2018.

Look, this is a fun story to talk about but lets not act like anyone here has wanted to play multiplayer games with PS4 owners, well, ever.
 
Even as someone who plays a lot of Xbox Live, only uses PS4 for single player and would like to reconnect with former 360 buddies who are now PS4 exclusive...I have no issues with this.

Community drives sales towards ecosystems. There’s plenty of gamers who can afford an X but play all their multiplats on PS4 because that’s where their friends are. Sony earned this competitive advantage by pricing their console $100 less with better performance to begin the gen. It’s unreasonable to expect them to give back that advantage.

Smart of Microsoft to play this up for some good PR but I highly doubt they’d be making this push if they were still in the lead. Doesn’t matter what Spencer says. Microsoft investors would not go for this if Microsoft had the bigger instal base.
exactly

I still wouldn't mind cross play
 
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Oh please. Son, I was a PlanetXBox member circa 1998. I'm as OG as it gets.

Also...(http://unionvgf.com/index.php?threads/which-way-do-you-lean-multiplayer-single-player.160506/) So I do have some idea. Take you for instance. You play mostly single player games

Thirdly, this article was written because of Fortnite. The biggest game in the world that, for some reason, the Union largely ignores. An anomaly that will normalize over the duration of 2018.

Look, this is a fun story to talk about but lets not act like anyone here has wanted to play multiplayer games with PS4 owners, well, ever.
Wait what's Planet Xbox?
Teamxbox is OG

I'm MAINLY a multiplayer gamer but think Fortnite gameplay and art style looks like crap.
Whenever if ever I get around to putting more time into it I will let you know if my opinion/assumption is right or wrong.

Most of its success is because its FREE
 
You mean by not getting new customers to buy games on their console or pay for their online service?

Sony: "We know you bought the game, and you'd like to play with all your friends, so go out and get them to buy a PS4 and the game on that so you can."

Apparently, we missed the first half of their motto: "Sales is a job... 4 the gamers."
 
PlanetXBox became or redirected it's users to TeamXBox once it closed up shop. You think you're a true OG?
What was your name at TeamXbox? We have been there from day one. You have been here since Oct 2017. We have been at this TeamXbox replacement site since the DAY it closed and this opened.
 
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Again you have every choice, you can buy a PlayStation and play people there or buy an xbox and play people there or you can skip out on them all together. This is a hobby, a luxury item not a necessity, their goal is to offer us a product and get money in exchange for it not to make any of us feel good. When what's best for business and best for consumers line up it's great but that's not always the case. The fact is they believe if you want to play against playstation gamers you should be invested in the playstation ecosystem, playing people who are on xbox doesn't make them any money, no PS+ sub and no console/game purchase. I get what you are saying, I think it'd be cool if cross play was allowed just to shut people up about it, personally I don't play a lot of MP games to begin with and when I do I never have a hard time finding a match with the people already on PSN so it doesn't jump out at me a something that would benefit me one way or the other..
As a consumer, you are correct, I have a choice not to buy another Sony product.

Why are you more concerned with what makes Sony money than what is good for gamers. 100% fact, a bigger pool of gamers = greater odds of successful matchmaking.
 
It's not defending it's explaining, the fact that you are throwing a fit over something that has never been allowed before in any other generation of gaming seems a bit over the top IMO. Hell MS declined Sony's offer to do this last gen.
It's here and now. The fact that you aren't throwing a fit means you just don't care. I really do. I've wanted this since my first online console game. I was there for Quake 3 on Dreamcast, which let you play against PC gamers. I wanted to play against PS2 gamers. Same with EVERY online game after that. The politics kept it from happening. Now you not only have every single player except for Sony onboard, you already have several games with it actually built in! There is just an artificial barrier that is their for Sony's sake of it. Sony never, ever went that far. So, were they blowing smoke? Seems like it.

Sony, tear down that wall!
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Oh please. Son, I was a PlanetXBox member circa 1998. I'm as OG as it gets.

Also...(http://unionvgf.com/index.php?threads/which-way-do-you-lean-multiplayer-single-player.160506/) So I do have some idea. Take you for instance. You play mostly single player games

Thirdly, this article was written because of Fortnite. The biggest game in the world that, for some reason, the Union largely ignores. An anomaly that will normalize over the duration of 2018.

Look, this is a fun story to talk about but lets not act like anyone here has wanted to play multiplayer games with PS4 owners, well, ever.

I only play the best MP games. Sorry Fortnite you are our weakest link, goodbye.
 
Again that is the same situation for all companies. Ps4 gamers aren't going to go out and buy an Xbox and COD to play with their Xbox mates if they have cross platform play and vice versa.

But they will if they can't. It's hardly hurting Minecraft is it which has over 70m Active users.

Sony reasoning for not doing it has been poor at best.

So it does not benefit them at all which is what I said :) honestly most people already play where their friends are anyway if MP gaming matters a lot to them.

Minecraft was on every platform ever conceived before MS even bought it, they have financial incentive to keep it that way and get as many platforms involved in cross play as possible.

Sony's stated reasoning about them protecting children was BS and just silly, it made them look bad and Ryan should never open his mouth again lol. It's purely for business reasons, it's what THEY think is best for their financial gain which is what all businesses do. Phil Spencer is talking big about cross play right now because it's all about a free to play game, a game MS owns and an indie game. Would he be up for it with all MP games? I've never seen him say that he would be but that doesn't mean he hasn't, I'm genuinely curious about that.
 
It doesn't hurt them. Sony acting like PSN is safe for all and Xbox isn't is just pure BS.
 
What was your name at TeamXbox? We have been there from day one. You have been here since Oct 2017. We have been at this TeamXbox replacement site since the DAY it closed and this opened.
But he has . Remember, you’re dealing with the man behind many identities, but has alwasy been in fact , the same person. This land can be hard from time to time. Does that answer your question ? Heh
 
But he has . Remember, you’re dealing with the man behind many identities, but has alwasy been in fact , the same person. This land can be hard from time to time. Does that answer your question ? Heh
Well if it is that guy, PV should know by IP and ban him.