Sony's financial woes

Kaz is pretty good at PR but what he has done is questionable. He hasn't closed down single thing that doesn't work, and like I said, I hear that directors of the board that were from Howard Stringer's days are still there. Rather than cutting out what really doesn't work, Sony was trying to hide its crisis by selling out real estates, which worked for a quarter or two but not anymore. And it's been two years since he promised a profit for the company, and people's patience towards his management has been nothing but generous about that. Like I said, at least they need to do something drastic about their dated TV business.

Even though some of their products are successful, where is "One Sony" going anyways? Nokia is going service-centric, several Japanese companies are concentrating on B2B, but with Sony, they have been doing nothing but doing what they have done. They can still make a good products, no doubt, but I'm not sure if that can be profitable. Market has changed, Chinese makers are flooding, the premium tactics works with Apple only. And I do agree that Sony should not sell games division, but then how will they take advantage of their success on a company level? Even under situations that are not as good as Playstation, Xbox has Windows ecosystem and Entertainment Division to be taken advantage of, and Nintendo has character licensing business to expand beyond gaming. In terms of its outlook, Playstation is still the most shortsighted, not to mention it's yet another department that is bleeding cash. Not that something is wrong with Playstation right now, but I think Sony has no idea what to do with its success.

Given how long they put up with Stringer's non-management, I think it's fair to say that Kaz is going to enough time to fail (or fail really bad) before getting two or three more attempts to shave the company down to a working organism. I feel for him, though: how does one motivate such a large company with thumbs in so many pies. I, and the public at large, wonder the same thing about Mayer at Yahoo or Immelt at GE. How the hell do you fix these problems?

As they retreat from making profits off proprietary formats, it honestly makes sense to eject their Entertainment division, which sags or wins on temperament and how well stars align. Disney and Lionsgate are success stories right now with full slates of good projects, but that can't last forever - just look at the wilderness that the former had to trudge through pre- and latter day-Eisner. Recapturing their phone division from Ericsson, I believe, was a huge deal. If they put more money there, they could absolutely edge Samsung out of the market. (Look at how bad Samsung's rep was a phone maker before the Galaxy S phones arrived, Sony could do just that and they already have good product.)

I like the daring moves that LG is making with webOS. Who knows if it'll pay off, but I wish them the absolute best. I wish Sony was that daring.

They've absolutely failed in making a compelling music/video service, which might be a chicken-and-egg thing with how many people use Sony devices. They need something to differentiate on and they need it on every platform possible, not just PlayStations and what have you.

Why don't they call their phones Walkman? That could be very cool.

On and on.
 
Given how long they put up with Stringer's non-management, I think it's fair to say that Kaz is going to enough time to fail (or fail really bad) before getting two or three more attempts to shave the company down to a working organism. I feel for him, though: how does one motivate such a large company with thumbs in so many pies. I, and the public at large, wonder the same thing about Mayer at Yahoo or Immelt at GE. How the hell do you fix these problems?

As they retreat from making profits off proprietary formats, it honestly makes sense to eject their Entertainment division, which sags or wins on temperament and how well stars align. Disney and Lionsgate are success stories right now with full slates of good projects, but that can't last forever - just look at the wilderness that the former had to trudge through pre- and latter day-Eisner. Recapturing their phone division from Ericsson, I believe, was a huge deal. If they put more money there, they could absolutely edge Samsung out of the market. (Look at how bad Samsung's rep was a phone maker before the Galaxy S phones arrived, Sony could do just that and they already have good product.)

I like the daring moves that LG is making with webOS. Who knows if it'll pay off, but I wish them the absolute best. I wish Sony was that daring.

They've absolutely failed in making a compelling music/video service, which might be a chicken-and-egg thing with how many people use Sony devices. They need something to differentiate on and they need it on every platform possible, not just PlayStations and what have you.

Why don't they call their phones Walkman? That could be very cool.

On and on.

I remember that many calls Sony's acquisition of Columbia TriStar as their biggest mistake before Japanese economy bubbled out in early 90s... Yet Sony does not abandon that division because it has seen success. Just like the recent success of Office 365 and increasing shares of Windows Phone offset the possible tremor with Xbox, earlier last gen it was Casino Royale and Spider-man 3 making up for Playstation 3. Actually they had a better vision as a media company back in the day, with a successful movie and music label and a multimedia focused device.

What is really strange is that Sony's recent success is largely due to abandoning that vision and focusing on old, unfocused way of doing things. Now is the time to push the cloud service and streaming for movies and musics, but like you said Sony was not very good at building that crucial ecosystem, and everything in the company is more divided than ever. Sony Music building a streaming app for every major platform and PS4, Columbia Pictures developing PS-exclusive contents, these are the cool, integrated things we are supposed to see with Sony. But as Playstation goes forward, Columbia pictures has been trailing way behind other studios and there's this split talk. Whatever Sony is doing to save itself, it sure doesn't look like what others are doing.
 
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THOUGHTS ON SONY’S Q1 2014 EARNINGS
MAY 15, 2014 JAN DAWSON 1 COMMENT
This will probably be the last in my series of posts about big tech companies’ Q1 2014 earnings. There was lots of press coverage of Sony’s earnings over the last several weeks, most of it for the wrong reasons – guidance revised downward, forecasting a loss for the next financial year and so on. There are plenty of pundits saying that if Sony was an American company, there would have been calls for Kaz Hirai’s resignation by now. But I wanted to take a minute and review some of the latest numbers, and highlight some of the positive trends in Sony’s business.

Sony has a reputation as a dysfunctional company (and I’ve said as much myself), with a combination of assets that seem like they could be really powerful but with cultural, structural and political divisions between business units that have so far prevented that enormous potential from turning into real achievement. Its glory days are long since behind it, and it’s struggled both to generate a profit and to demonstrate that it can again become the powerhouse it once was.

One quick note: Sony’s financials as reported have benefited from the weakness of the Yen relative to other currencies, and so some of the revenue growth it’s seen is unrelated to the performance of its own business, so I’ll try to use other metrics in addition to revenue growth wherever possible below.

A business in many parts
The most striking thing about Sony’s business is that it has so many parts to it – this is a company with its fingers in a lot of pies. Just look at the split of revenues shown in the pie chart below (I’ve taken some of the top-level segments and further divided them into their constituent parts because some of the sub-segments are actually quite different as well):



Look at all those businesses, with none of them generating more than 15% of overall revenues, and as diverse as financial services, electronic components, motion pictures and television sets. This enormous diversity could be both a weakness and a strength. So far it’s been a weakness, with divisions fighting rather than collaborating with each other, and creating a business that has somehow managed to be less rather than more than the sum of its parts. But latterly there have been signs that Sony is starting to get its act together and making its divisions help each other in a way they haven’t in the past. Camera and display technology from other business units have made their way into smartphones and tablets, entertainment services are now available across TVs, consoles and personal devices, and so on. There is finally evidence that Sony is starting to make its diversity pay off, though it’s still very early days.

Smartphones are picking up quietly
Look at the biggest segment in the diagram above: it wouldn’t have been this way a year or two ago, but it’s now smartphones. The Sony Ericsson joint venture was a flop for the last few years of its existence, fading further and further into irrelevance, and there was a strong chance that it would suffer along with the rest of Sony’s business units when it got bought out. But that hasn’t happened. Though there’s very little fuss about it in the media, Sony has quietly been building up its smartphone business over the last couple of years – see the two diagrams below, one showing shipments and the other revenues:

When you look at trailing 4-quarter numbers like these, it eliminates the cyclical fluctuations that happen at any company in this business, and the long-term steady growth trend emerges. What’s more, the Mobile Communications business actually generated a small profit this quarter and this year. The performance of this unit has been rather buried in the overall financial reporting since it’s been lumped in with the failing PC business, but as it winds down that operation Sony is promoting the performance of its increasingly impressive smartphone business. Its performance has been further helped by the fact that average selling prices have risen from around $200 to around $300 over the past two years. Though Sony’s market share in smartphones is small – well under 10% – this is a market that’s characterized by two very large dominant players and a long tail of much smaller ones. Sony remains in the top 10 vendors globally and has shown growth over the past two years even as Samsung and others have faltered. Sony’s got its act together in smartphones and it’s really starting to pay off. It’s too early to call it a long-term success, but it’s starting to look like it might be the exception to Horace Dediu’s rule about unprofitable smartphone vendors.

Financial services – Sony’s best business
Here’s the funniest thing about Sony: its best business has essentially nothing to do with any of the things it’s best known for – not consoles, not smartphones, not TVs, not home audio, but financial services. Have a look at these numbers (again, on a 4-quarter trailing basis):

Revenue has been climbing fairly steadily (though it took a bit of a dive this quarter), and margins have been the strongest of any of Sony’s business units, at between 15 and 20%. No other business unit comes close on a regular basis. That’s sort of a sad commentary on Sony’s other businesses in one way, but it does mean Sony has a relatively stable business, and one that’s a decent size, that can provide a good foundation even as it restructures the rest of its operations for long-term growth and profitability.

Entertainment businesses remain strong despite headwinds
Sony’s two entertainment businesses remain the next-best-performing business units after financial services. Their margins are more volatile, partly because of the hit-driven nature of both the music and movie businesses, and revenues have been fairly healthy too, even given the industry headwinds both businesses face:



Sony’s movie studio and its music business remain among the top 5 in the world in their respective fields, and this is a major strategic asset for Sony, allowing it to negotiate deals more easily by way of quid pro quo arrangements and giving it leverage other players in the consumer technology space don’t have.

TVs are doing surprisingly well
Even as Sony decided to wind down its PC business, it decided to refocus rather than kill off its other poorly-performing hardware asset, the television set operation. The strategy here is to focus on the higher end of the market, with full HD and 4K sets, trying to leave behind some of the commoditization that has characterized the lower end of the market. Commodity Chinese vendors are already attacking the 4K space, so who knows how long this will last, but so far it might actually be working too:

As you can see, the last two quarters’ shipments were higher than the year-ago equivalents, and the trailing 4-quarter shipment line is now trending upwards as a result. That’s translated into revenue growth too (though somewhat helped by currency movements):

That’s pretty impressive for a mature business with tons of competition and thin margins. Sony hasn’t split out television set margins from its overall Home Entertainment & Sound segment, so we can’t know exactly how margins are doing, but the high end focus should help there too.

Game consoles are not doing as well as you might think
Sony’s game console sales have been generating some of the few positive headlines for the company over the last few months. Playstation has been outselling Xbox in their most recent iterations, and actually over the past two years every quarter:Even that chart shows that the last two quarters’ shipments at Sony were only barely higher than the previous year’s shipments, despite the PS4 launch. Margins have actually declined, partly because of the upfront investment necessary to get the Playstation 4 off the ground, although revenues have started to climb in the last couple of quarters:

This is one of Sony’s highest-profile businesses, but it’s just not doing as well as you might think. For most of the last two years it’s been unprofitable, even well before the PS4 launch. And even when it is profitable, it’s only barely so. Sony needs to find more ways to boost the performance of this unit, including applying some of the same cross-segment synergy it’s used so effectively in smartphones lately. It might also usefully create a sort of Playstation Mini as a TV companion box a la Roku and Apple TV.

The outlook depends on execution
Sony’s strategy at this point is sound. All its business units except the one it’s winding down seem to be on an upward trajectory, and PCs should be fully closed within the next couple of quarters due to the accelerated pace of that action. The company is forecasting positive margins in every business unit next financial year, excluding restructuring costs, and based on the above analysis it’s possible, at least in theory. But so much will depend on the company’s execution on this strategy, and the ability to overcome strong negative trends in several of the markets Sony operates in, notably TVs, content and game consoles. Its track record of hitting its original guidance has been pretty poor over the last couple of years, but there are reasons to believe it might finally be turning a corner at last.
 
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May 26, 2014 5:04 pm
Sony’s chief to change sprawling group’s script
By Jennifer Thompson in Tokyo

Kazuo Hirai spent an enjoyable afternoon at Sony Pictures last year plotting the course of a careering aircraft in The Amazing Spider-Man 2, as he and other executives examined shots before the final edit of the smash action film.

If only charting the Japanese entertainment and electronics group’s course was as agreeable. While Sony’s chief executive is at pains to show he is a hands-on leader who can juggle meetings with product engineers and creative decisions in its media business, he has not yet changed a script Sony investors are painfully familiar with: lengthy restructurings, recurrentprofit warnings and formidable competition in virtually every one of Sony’s product categories.

Earlier this month Sony delivered its third profit warning in six months, missing its targets as it reported a net loss of Y125bn ($1.3bn) for the year to March, a loss it predicts will shrink to Y50bn in the 2015 fiscal year.

Mr Hirai has been under pressure from Dan Loeb, the activist investor who called for Sony to spin its movie and music divisions into a separately listed company and sell 15-20 per cent to investors.

But two years into the job, Mr. Hirai says there are clear signs the company is on the right track. After almost a decade of restructuring, he argued in Tokyo on Monday, it is finally making good on promises to slim down to a leaner, more efficient organisation.

In February he sent the clearest signal yet that he was willing to accelerate the restructuring with the announcement that its television business would be spun off into a subsidiary while the Vaio PC business would be sold.

“We accomplished all we set out to do,” he said, but he acknowledged Sony could have gone further, saying: “We didn’t plan as aggressively as we should have.”

News that the Japanese company will make and sell PlayStations in China is welcome. But the priority must remain exiting bad businesses

Although analysts cheered the will to deal more decisively with the TV and PC businesses, long regarded as the sick men of Sony, many argued the growth areas identified by the group – its digital imaging, game and mobile units – themselves faced serious competition.

Sony’s Xperia smartphone business for instance, long cited as a growth area for the group, last year had a global market share of just 3.8 per cent, placing it in seventh place behind rivals including Samsung and Apple.

“Smartphone earnings could deteriorate due to severe competition, and among imaging the sluggish DSLR market could lead to stagnation in sales,” said Yasuo Nakane, analyst at Deutsche Bank, who also highlights higher restructuring charges as a risk.

Mr. Hirai stressed the importance of Sony still having a smartphone presence, even as other Japanese manufacturers have pulled back from producing smartphones for international markets.

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“If we’re not players in this generation we’re not going to be players in the next generation,” he said. “If we lay our cards right hopefully we will be in that business in the next generation.”

Sony’s sprawling size has seen it criticised in the past for being too siloed, and Mr Hirai said he now saw a greater willingness to collaborate between businesses.

Though he has frequently insisted that Sony would continue to sell televisions and the group is spinning off the TV business rather than selling it outright, he hinted at a slight modification. If it continued to struggle, he said, it would “make sense to work with another company so we’re not completely in the TV business.”

Sony’s rough ride

June 1999 Nobuyuki Idei becomes chief executive. Four years later he presides over the infamous Sony “Shokku,” or shock, in which the group surprised investors with a profits warning.

June 2005 British-born Howard Stringer becomes chief executive, the first foreigner to lead Sony with a mandate to restore profitability and turn the core electronics business round.

September 2005 Sir Howard’s first major restructuring initiative outlines a plan to cut staff numbers by 10,000, or 7 per cent and reduce costs by Y200bn. It will also close 11 manufacturing plants, streamline its number of products and generate capital from asset sales. “We must be like the Russians defending Moscow against Napoleon, ready to scorch the earth to stay ahead of the invaders. We must be Sony United and fight like the Sony warriors we are,” he says.

December 2008 A second wave of restructuring begins with plans to cut 16,000 full-time and part-time jobs in its electronics businesses around the world.

2011 Sony downgrades its net income forecasts four times.

March 2012 The group highlights its digital imaging, game and mobile units as the three core pillars of its electronics business.

April 2012 Kazuo ‘Kaz’ Hirai takes over as chief executive. Sir Howard says he will be a “tough-minde[d]” leader. The first restructuring under Mr. Hirai is outlined under the banner of “Sony will change.” Sony will shed 10,000 jobs, or about 6 per cent of its global headcount, over the next three years.

March 2013 The group reports its first full-year net income in five years.

October 2013 Sony warns on profits.

January 2014 Moody’s cuts Sony rating to junk

February 2014 Plans to spin out the television business and sell the Vaio PC business are announced.

May 2014 Sony warns on profits for the third time in six months.
 
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On Google (GOOG_) (GOOGL_) Search, the iPad Air had 2.24 million monthly searches; Samsung Galaxy S5 had 2.74 million searches. The Sony Xperia Z2 has an anemic 301,000 monthly searches.

If I had to predict which the winners are going to be in this competitive space, I would have to bet the ranch on Samsung and Apple.

The CEO of Sony, Kazuo Hirai stated, "As we strengthen our entertainment and financial operations, we will implement the transformation of our core electronics areas to ensure growth from 2015 on." We've seen Sony over-promise when it comes to guidance in previous years. Therefore, I'm not really sure if Sony will become profitable. 2014 was supposed to be the year in which Sony would leverage its growing smartphone business, shutter non-performing operations, and come away with incremental earnings growth.

I'm starting to think Sony's handset division will have trouble penetrating into developed markets. In the most recent fiscal quarter, the mobile products and communication segment declined by 9% in constant currency. Meanwhile, in the first quarter of 2014, the smartphone market grew shipments by 28.6% year-over-year, according to IDC.

Gone are the days in which Sony could launch a product and rely on its brand to generate sales. It actually has to compete for business, which is something it doesn't seem to be very good at.
 
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Sony CEO Apologizes to Investors

Sony Corp. (675:cool: Chief Executive Officer Kazuo Hirai apologized to investors after the company forecast a sixth loss in seven years, and he pledged that his restructuring efforts would fuel the electronics maker’s long-term growth.
“Sorry that we failed to meet shareholders’ expectations,” Hirai said at the company’s annual meeting in Tokyo. “We will bear responsibility to complete restructuring in fiscal 2014, with a strong sense of crisis and without further delay.”

Sony has lost 85 billion yen ($831 million) since Hirai became CEO in 2012 and predicts another 50 billion-yen loss this year as he struggles to revive the television business. The 53-year-old is counting on more restructuring, a slate of “Amazing Spider-Man” films, new Xperia smartphones and potential sales of the PS4 in China to revive its fortunes against Apple Inc. (AAPL) and Samsung Electronics Co.

“There’s only a 50 percent chance that Hirai can complete restructuring this year, it’s not an easy task,” said 83-year-old Tsukasa Kaneda, a Sony shareholder for more than 50 years. “I hope Sony can make great products again, like when the company was first founded.”
Sony shares rose 3.7 percent to 1,705 yen in Tokyo. The stock has dropped 6.6 percent this year, compared with a 2.6 percent decline in the benchmark Topix index.


“It’s a win-or-lose year for Hirai,” said Naoki Fujiwara, chief fund manager at Tokyo-based Shinkin Asset Management Co., which holds Sony stock. “If he cannot meet his committed numbers, he will lose force as a leader.”



Hirai’s Responsibility
The company has cut about 18,000 jobs, including engineers, during the last two years, Vice President Kunitaka Fujita at the meeting, where attendance was half of last year’s gathering.


Hirai said today he is responsible for carrying out the company’s restructuring and that he’s not spinning off the music or entertainment units. Third Point LLC investor Daniel Loeb has urged Sony to spin off a portion of entertainment assets.
So far, Hirai’s plans aren’t impressing individual investor Kido Renate from Germany.

“The shocking thing for me was too many excuses,” Renate said. “Sony is really going down.”

While investors aren’t calling for Hirai’s job yet, they do want the turnaround to show traction after the company cut its earnings three times last year. Sony is now worth about $17 billion, compared with a market valuation of about $120 billion in 1999.

“What Hirai is doing now isn’t wrong, but it is too slow,” said Kazuyuki Terao, Tokyo-based chief investment officer at Allianz Global Investors Japan Co. “The restructuring isn’t keeping up with the speed of change.”
 
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Sony Seen as Reject as Japan JPX Index Cuts Losing Stocks
By Anna Kitanaka and Toshiro Hasegawa Jul 28, 2014 11:10 PM ET

Sony Corp. (675:cool: is poised to be rejected from Japan’s government-backed stock index started in January.

The JPX-Nikkei Index 400 (JPNK400)picks companies with the best operating income, return on equity and market value to shame executives of those it excludes into boosting profit and shareholder returns. Japan’s biggest consumer-electronics maker will be kicked out when the gauge reassesses its constituents next month, according to UBS AG, Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and at least four other brokerages, as losses create negative return on equity that dwindling operating income and market value no longer counter.

Goldman Sachs says Sony, creator of the PlayStation, is surpassed by 959 businesses jostling for the 400 spots. Rejection matters as investors including the $1.2 trillion government pension fund buy and sell shares to emulate the gauge’s movements. Sony has fallen from grace as it struggles to stem losses in its television business.

“If you’re dropped, the impact on your share price could be quite big,” said Tomomi Yamas***a, who helps oversee the equivalent of $6.3 billion at Shinkin Asset Management Co. in Tokyo and says he can now list almost all 400 companies on the measure. “It’s also going to hurt your image.”

Founded in 1946 in Tokyo’s Nihonbashi district, Sony grew from a telecommunications-equipment maker with 190,000 yen in capital to a Fortune Global 500 company credited with helping popularize consumer electronics in the U.S. with Japan’s first transistor radio. Hit products followed, from the Walkman in 1979 to the world’s first CD player in 1982.

More Losses
Now Sony is falling behind Samsung Electronics Co. and Apple Inc., posting losses in five of the past six years and predicting another one to come. Market value was $18.4 billion yesterday, data compiled by Bloomberg show, compared with a peak of $125.8 billion in 2000 and $21.2 billion on June 28, 2013, the base date for the first selection of the index’s companies.

The JPX-Nikkei 400 climbed 0.2 percent to 11,733.59 at the trading break in Tokyo today, bringing its decline this year to 0.3 percent. Sony’s shares fell 0.1 percent, extending their 2014 drop to 1.6 percent.

JPX-Nikkei 400 constituents are chosen based on three-year average return on equity, which measures how efficiently capital is used, and cumulative operating profit, each accounting for 40 percent of the selection criteria, while market value makes up the remaining 20 percent. About 10 firms can also be replaced based on corporate-governance standards, such as providing English-language results and appointing at least two independent outside directors.

Bigger Problems
Sony had a higher three-year operating income when the gauge’s companies were first chosen, helping it get into the measure despite negative ROE, while peers like Panasonic Corp. and Olympus Corp. were left out. Sony’s cumulative profit earned from regular business operations sank to 189.3 billion yen once this year’s results were included, compared with 362.6 billion yen at the end of the previous period. Its three-year average return on equity was minus 7.9 percent, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

“It’s amazing Sony was there in the first place,” said Seiichiro Iwamoto, who helps oversee the equivalent of $39 billion at Mizuho Asset Management Co. “To be blunt, ROE is the least of its worries. Sony needs to restructure its business and income streams or it’s in big trouble. I hope this pushes it to want to get back on the index.”

Sony spokeswoman Yo Kikuchi declined to comment by phone on July 23 as changes in index members haven’t been decided yet. The updated list is announced on Aug. 7. Natsuho Torii, a spokeswoman for Japan Exchange Group Inc., declined to comment.

TV Unit
The cost to insure Sony’s debt against non-payment rose 42 basis points this year to as high as 182 basis points last week, exceeding that of Tokyo Electric Power Co., the utility embroiled in the worst nuclear crisis since Chernobyl, for the first time since November 2012, CMA data show. The Markit iTraxx Japan credit-default swap index declined 3.5 to 64 since Dec. 31, while the measure for U.S. companies fell 2.9.

In an attempt to stop the losses, Sony has exited its PC business and split its TV division into a separate entity. Chief Executive Officer Kazuo Hirai said in May the TV unit could make its first profit in more than a decade even if it misses sales forecasts by as much as 16 percent.

The JPX-Nikkei 400, the brainchild of the bourse and planners loyal to Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, seeks to push Japanese companies to change business strategies that have kept returns at half the global average. As the nation exits deflation, Abe wants companies to focus more on making profit and investing it for growth or distributing it to shareholders.
 
A case of too many cooks spoil the broth ?

I think it is more arrogance. There are equal products on the market that sell for a lot less than Sony products but Sony didn't adjust to the trend. Instead, they believed (correctly in some instances) that their NAME was worth the extra $$$ for a TV or computer.

Competition just found a better price point and product for that price and that is crushing Sony's consumer electronics (save for PS).
 
I think it is more arrogance. There are equal products on the market that sell for a lot less than Sony products but Sony didn't adjust to the trend. Instead, they believed (correctly in some instances) that their NAME was worth the extra $$$ for a TV or computer.

Competition just found a better price point and product for that price and that is crushing Sony's consumer electronics (save for PS).

Yeah. I can see where you are coming from with this, but still. They have there hand in nigh on all electronic stuff. Which would be fine if they all made equal revenue, but some of them seem to be a bit on the low side. AV, PC's, and other for example are so low.
 
With such a diversified portfolio, its hard to understand why Sony isn't doing better as a whole. Then you look at their TV hardware division and former PC division numbers and the picture gets clearer.
I'd double down on their gaming division and Tv/Movie production. Those seem to be profit makers.
 
How I imagine Intellivision when he reads this news:

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With such a diversified portfolio, its hard to understand why Sony isn't doing better as a whole. Then you look at their TV hardware division and former PC division numbers and the picture gets clearer.
I'd double down on their gaming division and Tv/Movie production. Those seem to be profit makers.

exactly...

those two divisions were massive money sinks...

I don't believe for one second Sony will ever "bow out" of consoles, or consumer electronics, but they definitely are in need of refocusing. Should prob get the PS division to give them some pointers ;)
 
With such a diversified portfolio, its hard to understand why Sony isn't doing better as a whole. Then you look at their TV hardware division and former PC division numbers and the picture gets clearer.
I'd double down on their gaming division and Tv/Movie production. Those seem to be profit makers.
If I was an investor, the only way I'd invest in Sony is if they split off their banking/insurance division into a totally separate entity which was tradable over the markets. It's the only division for ages that consistently makes big profits every year. Everything else is either a consistent money pit or hit and miss depending on the year.

Oddly enough, it's also the division that gets the least amount of hype or promotion.
 
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Sony Debt Riskier Than Tepco on Looming Downgrade: Japan Credit
By Cheng Leng Jul 28, 2014 11:28 PM ET
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Sony (9501) Corp.’s bond risk climbed above that of a power company embroiled in the worst nuclear crisis since Chernobyl before earnings results this week that may trigger a ratings cut for the ailing electronics giant.

The cost to insure Sony’s debt against non-payment rose 42 basis points this year to as high as 182 basis points last week, exceeding that of Tokyo Electric Power Co. for the first time since November 2012, CMA data show. The Markit iTraxx Japan credit-default swapindex declined 2.5 to 65 since Dec. 31, while the measure for U.S. companies fell 2.9.

Sony Chief Executive Officer Kazuo Hirai apologized to investors last month after forecasting a sixth loss in seven years as competition from Apple Inc. and Samsung Electronics Co. hammers its smartphone and television businesses. The Tokyo-based company is on watch for a downgrade at both Japan Credit Rating Agency Ltd. and Rating & Investment Information Inc. Bloomberg’s default-risk reading suggests it’s poised for a cut of as many as four levels to the bottom of investment grade.

“The risk of another loss has skyrocketed and so have the concerns about the company’s credit rating,” said Yoshihiro Nakatani, a senior fund manager at Asahi Life Asset Management Co. “The upcoming earnings will determine the course of bond risk going forward.”

Sony is scheduled to report results for the fiscal first quarter on July 31. Estimates for the net loss in the period range from about 7 billion yen ($69 million) to 14 billion yen, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

TV Losses
The company in May forecast a loss of 50 billion yen in the year to March 2015, citing 135 billion yen in costs related to restructuring and exiting the personal computer business. Sony’s TV unit, which invented the Trinitron cathode-ray tube in the 1960s, hasn’t made money since 2004. The operations hemorrhaged more than 790 billion yen in the past 10 years, according to the company.

“Large-screen TV sales domestically can be expected to take a hit from higher sales tax” in effect since April, said Yusuke Ueda, a credit analyst at Bank of America Merrill Lynch in Tokyo. “That drag on earnings is likely to last through the first half.”

Sony is poised to be rejected from JPX-Nikkei Index 400, Japan’s government-backed stock index started in January, according to UBS AG, Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and at least four other brokerages. The losses create negative return on equity that dwindling operating income and market value no longer counter, they said.

George Boyd, a spokesman at Sony, declined to comment on the company’s bond risk and credit ratings.

Downgrade Fears
The company’s debt is ranked A by JCR, the risk assessor’s sixth-highest investment grade, while R&I rates it a level lower at A-. The Bloomberg default-risk model, which considers factors such as share prices, debt levels and interest expenses, suggests the 10th-lowest rating, matching that of Standard & Poor’s at BBB-.

Moody’s Investors Service has rated Sony at its highest junk grade since January and has a stable outlook on the company. S&P put it on watch for downgrade in February.

“There are expectations that Sony won’t be able to hold on to its A level rating from R&I,” Ueda said. “The bets on whether R&I will downgrade or not are reflected” in CDS price moves, Ueda said.

Riskiest Bonds
When Sony’s bond risk last exceeded that of Tepco in November 2012, it faced a downgrade to junk by Moody’s, which warned then that Hirai’s strategy for reviving the electronics business may take longer than expected. R&I also put the company on negative watch at the time after a surprise quarterly loss that sent shares to the lowest since 1980 the following month.

Tepco’s contracts are down 155 basis points this year at 175 as of yesterday, helped by state and bank support that led S&P to raise its outlook to stable in April. The operator of the crippled Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear power plant is Japan’s second-riskiest company on the iTraxx index, with Sony trailing by three basis points at 173, according to CMA data. SoftBank Corp. tops the list at 185.

The bond risk of Tepco was as high as 1,762 basis points in October 2011, seven months after the nuclear crisis that forced the evacuation of about 160,000 people.

Bond Spread
The yield premium investors demand to own Sony’s 10 billion yen of 1.41 percent notes due 2022 rose 18 basis points this year to 83 basis points over government debt. The securities, the last offered by the company to institutional investors, were issued at 43 basis points in March 2012, Bloomberg-compiled data show. A basis point is 0.01 percentage point.

Sony’s spreads have climbed even as borrowing costs fall in Japan in reaction to the central bank’s monthly buying of an unprecedented 7 trillion yen of notes. Japan’s 10-year benchmark yield has dropped 21 basis points this year to 0.525 percent. The yen has risen 3.4 percent to 101.89 against the dollar as of 12:26 p.m. in Tokyo today.

“The market is bracing for another loss in the electronics segment,” Nakatani at Asahi Life Asset Management said. “Even if no such deficit materializes, it would take really good earnings results to wipe away investors’ fears.”
 
Sell the Playstation division to Nintendo.
I know little to nothing about the business side of things, but why would Sony sell one of their most profitable and reliable divisions? I'm sure they could get a huge chunk of change from MS or Nintendo, enough to get the out of the red, but unless their failing divisions start to perform again, I don't see how unloading the PS brand is a viable solution.
 
I know little to nothing about the business side of things, but why would Sony sell one of their most profitable and reliable divisions? I'm sure they could get a huge chunk of change from MS or Nintendo, enough to get the out of the red, but unless their failing divisions start to perform again, I don't see how unloading the PS brand is a viable solution.
I was mostly joking, but it might also be the chink of cash they need to restructure and get other things going again.

Seriously though, I think they should cooperate with a Chinese TV manufacturer. These days you can get pretty damn good TVs from a dozen Chinese makers for a lot less than a premium brand. Joe Bloggs will buy a cheap Chinese TV quite happily but if there was the known and trusted Sony brand on the box, yet the price was Chinese, Joe would choose that one.
It would definitely net them more marketshare than the other dozen unknown Chinese brands.
 
Joe is a popular name in China?

No, I think its a bad move. If people realized that Sony is a rebrand Chinese Product, their reputation & perprieved quality of their products (even for products that are not rebranded) will go down like a Husky on a sledge.
 
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Sony recently posted a surprise profit, why wasn't this posted?


Edit: I get it, its about negative Sony news.
 
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Sony recently posted a surprise profit, why wasn't this posted?


Edit: I get it, its about negative Sony news.
because I have not been posting lately I I usually announce it
I will update this when I am in the mood.. but you also can update it with links of course
no reason to stand on ceremony