It would be nice if you quoted sources. But either way, Squadron 42 is not Star Citizen. It's a separate game.
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Yeah, when I've got time I'll try and find it, the problem with this game is because it's open development, there is so much info out there that sometimes trying to dig through the tonnes of info they put out can be a bugger to source quotes. You'll just have to take my word for it lol.
Yeah that sounds fine. I just know this game is still so crazy demanding. Even their Gamescom 2016 demo still had frame rate issues and stuttering, and those kinds of demos usually run on late gen Intel's and GTX Titans.Yeah, when I've got time I'll try and find it, the problem with this game is because it's open development, there is so much info out there that sometimes trying to dig through the tonnes of info they put out can be a bugger to source quotes. You'll just have to take my word for it lol.
I found this on a quick search.
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/robe...-for-star-citizen-on-ps4-and-xbox-one/0138398
It doesn't sound like he's against it, more like he won't compromise the game by making it to fit on console. It's conceivable that Scorpio could handle it, but at the time of this particular article, it wasn't on the radar. Most of his "never" attitude seems to be directed at last-gen consoles as he mentions 512mb ram.
Unfortunately no I couldn't find a source where the dev confirmed SQ42 was running on a PS4.
I stand by my comment though, I know I read it a few months ago.
EDIT: A couple of devs back in March stated that at that point they could run Squadron 42 on a PS4, at no point did they say it was coming to PS4 but it was technically feasible.
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Well that big, bold, highlighted reddit is completely backing away from the idea of this game coming to consoles. And the reddit doesn't say it ran on ps4. It just draws comparison to the PS4 as a reference by saying it "could" run on ps4 in its current state. That all pretty clearly goes against what you said earlier. It would be cool if the game came to consoles, but the developer is clearly against this.
I didn't read it as him being against it, more like he refuses to compromise to get to run on console. It sounds like him reassuring the fanbase that he won't cut corners to run on console, and that it is developed as a top tier PC game before all else.
Truthfully, when seen in context with his persistent message on the matter, it is in fact speaking very strongly against consoles. His sustained message for why there is no console release is "this game is impossible for consoles" and "i'm tired of console ports." Scorpio and Neo may change one of those things, but the developer's message has been very loud and clear and has not changed one bit all of these years even if they do have distant secret plans for ports somewhere deep in their upper management.
The developer is not clearly against the game coming to consoles, the developer is clearly treading on eggshells around a PC community who is funding the game, of which the vast majority would be happy for the game never to see a console release.
Chris Roberts has on many occasions had the opportunity to just come out and say clearly that they won't release on console, instead he has never ruled out a console release, instead opting to say that the game will be made first and foremost for PC without ever designing with any limitations console may bring.
This console release argument has been raging since 2013 when a PS4 development kit was spotted on a devs desk in the studio.
As for the reddit post, this was snippets from a conversation a redditor had with two devs at the PC gamer show back in March, the devs have quite clearly been experimenting with seeing how the game would run on PS4, the edit comes from the poster trying to quell a backlash from PC gamers in the thread moaning about the game coming to console, and him saying in his opinion he thinks they meant it as "illustrating more of a technical craftmanship in place" quote lol.
As I say, Chris Roberts is relying on the PC community to bankroll the game and knows they don't want to see a console release for PC exclusivity reasons, he's been very careful to qualify a console release in the face of opposition from the majority of backers.
Here is Chris Roberts in his own words regarding a console release on the RSI forums bearing in mind what I said about the backers opposing a console release.
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/76653/star-citizen-pc-ps4-and-consoles/p1
Some relevant snippets
: Star Citizen WILL NEVER COME TO X360/PS3
:He goes on to talk about high draw calls on Mantle (pre DX12 announcement) and says
" this is ironically the advantage next gen consoles have, so what is essentially a mid level PC of today (which are what the next gen consoles are) punches above its weight while Windows and direct X do a nice job of handicapping high end PC's
:If the platform holders Sony/MS allow us to update the code without restrictions and odious qc procedures, IF they allow our community to openly interact with each other, then I would consider supporting them.
WHY?
Because they are essentially inexpensive small form factor PC's with an operating system focused on gaming and who wouldn't want to see a bigger community of Star Citizens? If Sony and MS are willing to let their platform be open , then I see no difference between them and Valves Steam Box.
But this is a big if and it's asking a lot. To their credit, SONY seems to be the most eager to embrace indie games and openess, they chased us down TO GIVE US SOME DEV KITS TO PLAY WITH, BUT WE'VE BEEN CLEAR ON WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO GET THE GAME ON PS4.
:So FEAR NOT, PC Is the platform of Star Citizen, anything else if it happens at all will be after the fact.
Anyone with half a brain can see that Chris Roberts wants this on console and is treading a fine line in that post leaving the door open for a console port but at the same time trying to placate his PC gaming paymasters. I'm also pretty sure he would love to get his hands on the many $100's of millions a console release would put straight into his pocket seeing as the game has already been financed by gamers and all future sales would essentialy be pure profit. Chris Roberts, Billionaire developer of Star Citizen sure would have a nice ring to it from his perspective.
I rest my case lol.
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This quote distills it perfectly for me:
:So FEAR NOT, PC Is the platform of Star Citizen, anything else if it happens at all will be after the fact.
It hardly makes a case that they are making one now, but down the line, with something like Scorpio, the possibilities exist. The game ain't gonna be ready for a while anyway.
:So FEAR NOT, PC Is the platform of Star Citizen, anything else if it happens at all will be after the fact.
It hardly makes a case that they are making one now, but down the line, with something like Scorpio, the possibilities exist. The game ain't gonna be ready for a while anyway.
Agreed, in my original post i said it will come to console at some point. This would be a great game to showcase what the Scorpio/Neo could be capable of. Star Citizen the MMO aspect is imo 3 years away still from having all Star Systems and and trades in place but Squadron 42 was given a late 2016 release date last year which I think will be delayed into 2017 but I'm certain it will release in the next 12 months.
They'll be showing SQ42 off at Citizen Con in October.
Here is a little clip of the Bengal Carrier, bare in mind the Retaliator bomber that comes up from the bay, I'll post a little Vid of what the Retaliator looks like inside to give some reference of the scale of the Bengal Carrier.
Retaliator Bomber
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=kZ02-Pel0L0
Bengal Carrier (fully crewed in SQ42 and including all the decks is about the scale 3-4 battlefield maps)
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=iU0WIQml8zo
Man, that game is Crysis levels of beyond the competition on Tech. Stunning, and coupled with scale and depth in each aspect. I was reading that they were going to have stuff like AI characters having to make repairs and stuff the same way the player would have to. Imagine if you managed to board a ship while they were damaged, have a shootout, or disrupt the repair effort. So much potential to get immersed... My PC could never run this game
Man, wrapping my head around all the stuff to keep track of is crazy. Ships and people inside ships- you can't fake it, all must be tracked somehow. How they manage to make it look as good as it does on top of that is boggling.
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They already have said they are doing no console port. They have very clearly said over and over a console port is impossible. You are just ignoring their words and making things up, saying they confirmed console versions and have the game running on ps4. You are just misinforming everyone with lies.
Please show me where I have stated they have confirmed console version. When you can't, have the decency to apologise.
I don't know what your problem is, anything I've said I've backed up with links. I've never ever stated they have confirmed a console version, only ever gave my opinion why I'm convinced that a console version will come and I've linked to Chris Roberts statement showing why I believe that to be the case.
Calling me a liar and saying I'm trying to deceive people here is below the belt.
Edit: I have spent a considerable amount of time sourcing and linking, putting it in the open for all to see, how you can say I'm lying and deceiving is completely untrue, people here can read what I linked and make up their own mind if they agree with me.
You on the other hand are the one slinging out accusations with nothing to back it up.
Your initial reply to me stating the developer has never made any comments regarding the game coming to consoles has been disproven by my post above. You are the one coming across like a PC elitist desperate for this game to never come to console which is kind of funny considering you recently started a thread calling Star Citizen a scam.
Which one of us is wrong? Your position is the developers have never mentioned anything about Star Citizen coming to consoles and I'm a lying ******* that wants to embaress myself by making up a load of lies that will never come true
My position, I've clearly backed up where Chris Roberts, the boss of CIG and the driving force behind the game clearly wants the game to come to console at some point. I've linked to where the developers have said the game would run on a PS4 (how would they know without trying it?)
I've established that CIG are and have been in possession of PS4 dev kits since at least 2014 and Chris Roberts has spoken to Sony and discussed what they needed to do to get the game on PS4. I've put this all out in the open, including the reddit link which the full transcript appears on this page, not hidden behind a link. I tried to copy and Paste Chris Roberts full post regarding consoles but for whatever reason couldn't from RSI forum so posted the link and typed up some relevant points from his post.
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You said the game is definitely coming to consoles and that it is even already running on PS4 despite no confirmation of either. And this is also all contrary to the developer's very adamant comments over a console port, all ranging from "it's impossible" to "that's a BIG IF even after the PC version is fully completed."
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Two Pennys Worth if you read your last reddit quote, you would see it said they would only support consoles if and only if they became completely open platforms like Windows, which the developer continues by stating the extreme unlikelyhood of this with "that's a BIG IF. And that's asking a lot." Basically they will port ever a console port of they do the so unlikely feat of abandoning everything that makes them consoles and make them into completely open platforms. I don't mind if you think you are trying to be informative, but most of what you are doing is just trying to misrepresent what they say.
Give it up buddy, how am I misrepresenting by showing what Chris Roberts said? It's not a Reddit post, it was Chris Roberts on his own website. Are you saying that all the things I posted aren't what he said?
As for "I don't mind if you think you're being informative" take a hike you douche. Who do you think you are? I don't need your permission, get over yourself.
You are saying the game is for sure coming to consoles because Roberts said they would have no problem bringing the game over if and only if some very rare conditions are met by console makers. That quote actually makes a console port look even more unlikely than it is already and further supports his hatred of consoles and their closed systems.
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No, I'm saying anyone with half a brain can see Chris Roberts wants this to come to console for all the reasons he gives in his post. As I say, he's talking to his PC gaming paymasters who don't want a console port but still gives umpteen reasons why it could and should come to consoles.
I know exactly what he said as I remember it being posted in 2014, that's why I've known all along of his intentions to bring it to console at some point.
Edit: you also seem to be missing the point of it's my opinion which I have backed up with statements of why I think so. Why are you being so literal and making out I've said it's been confirmed?
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When did he exaxtly say he would love to bring the game over to consoles? I never saw one listed by you. Only saw "if and only if they console were completely open platforms," and that doesn't count for anything. Roberts knows hell will freeze over before that.
I'm done mate, you've derailed this thread enough. If you can't see that he wants to bring this game to console from the post on the previous page where I linked his post and all his comments regarding porting it to console, I don't really know what else to say to you.
I'm not really interested in what you believe, other gamers on this forum can read it and make their own decision, to me it's obvious but maybe you see things differently. We'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm tired of going round and round in circles with you. I've posted what I consider compelling reasons, for crying out loud, in Chris Roberts own words they've got PS4 dev kits and have been in talks with SONY but whatever.
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You are just ignoring the part where he said only if consoles became completely open platforms. He hates how closed consoles are right now and Sony/MS have yet to do anything to meet his requirements and demands. So there is no console port. You can't just pretend he didn't list those very clear requirements. It really would be nicer if you just didn't resort to such a crazy open interpretations that ignore the other half of everything he says to try and support unfounded claims. Why not give an example of how Sony and MS are working towards meeting his demands?
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Two Pennys Worth Sorry, but as you quoted, he said if and only if consoles became completely open platforms like PC for them to operate in. And PS4 and Xbox One aren't open platforms. So it's not coming to consoles. You can't ever read only half of everything he says and pretend he didn't name his strict terms for what console makers need to do.
Are you being deliberately obtuse?
Turn it in you're boring me now and it's getting embarrassing. We'll see what's what over the next few years.
So the definitive takeaway from this is that nobody really knows, perhaps even the developer himself. In fact, nobody can even really say which way the dev seems to be leaning.
Side note, down at the bottom in "Similar Threads" there was a thread from almost three years ago entitled:
"graphics wise will star citizen be able to compete with killzone shadowfall"
Hindsight is 20/20, but still funny.
"graphics wise will star citizen be able to compete with killzone shadowfall"
Hindsight is 20/20, but still funny.