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You so are actually just putting words in trump's mouth. Trump didn't mean FBI when he said feds. Feds means armed marines.
He's said Feds. I was making you didn't think he was talking about a few FBI agents. The moron is talking about military action.
 
He's said Feds. I was making you didn't think he was talking about a few FBI agents. The moron is talking about military action.
Feds =/= US Army
Also Feds =/= 200 feds

You are twisting his words
 
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Feds =/= US Army
Also Feds =/= 200 feds

You are twisting his words


"Feds" means
Military = Army, Navy, Marines


Are we just mincing words here? Point is, be it military....or armed federal agents, you're still looking at an outside armed force coming in enforce law (law according to Trump/Feds), and that is the federal government overstepping their dutied into state's rights.

Also, the "feds" work with military forces, like the national guard, and that my friend, is bringing in an outside military force.
 
The Federal Bureau of Investigation does not do riot control. That's someone else's job. And nothing about trumps tweet implied riots. And military action is completely different from police action.
 
The Federal Bureau of Investigation does not do riot control. That's someone else's job. And nothing about trumps tweet implied riots. And military action is completely different from police action.

Anybody acting as an agent of the federal government, can be considered a "fed."

Just as in the los angeles riots in the early 90's(I lived in LA during time).

Third day (Friday, May 1)[edit]
The third day was punctuated by live footage of Rodney King at an impromptu news conference in front of his lawyer's Los Angeles offices on Wilshire & Doheny, tearfully saying, "People, I just want to say, you know, can we all get along?"[66][67] That morning, at 1:00 am, California Governor Pete Wilson had requested federal assistance. Upon request, President George H. W. Bush invoked the Insurrection Act via Executive Order 12804, federalizing the California Army National Guard and authorizing federal military personnel to help restore law and order,[68] but it was not ready until Saturday, by which time the rioting and looting was under control. Meanwhile, the 40th Infantry Division (doubled to 4,000 troops) of the California Army National Guard continued to move into the city in Humvees, eventually seeing 10,000 Army National Guard troops activated. Additionally, a varied contingent of 1,700 federal law enforcement officers from different agencies across the state began to arrive, to protect federal facilities and assist local police. As darkness fell, the main riot area was further hit by a power cut.[citation needed]

The California Army National Guard was federalized and became active federal agents.

What Plainview is saying, if trump federalizes the Illinois National Guard OR sends federal military personnel, without the request of the governor of Illinois it will cause riots and it will.

It's a federal military invasion at that point.
 
The Federal Bureau of Investigation does not do riot control. That's someone else's job. And nothing about trumps tweet implied riots. And military action is completely different from police action.

He's going to take everybody from the EPA, Department of Education, and anything else that will eventually get folded into Minitrue and send all those unnecessary employees there, since they'll either solve the crime problem or get shot and stop being a drain on the nation's coffers.
 
The Federal Bureau of Investigation does not do riot control. That's someone else's job. And nothing about trumps tweet implied riots. And military action is completely different from police action.


You are not getting it, are you?

By "bringing in the feds", he means, bringing in....the feds. Federal agents. The federal government. It's a slang term that simply refers to a federal group. That could mean FBI, CIA, IRS, etc. Some of these federal groups, do indeed work with the federal military. For example, you do know that it was the CIA that worked to get Bin Laden, and used the Navy to carry out the work.

THAT is precisely what is referred to as bringing in the feds. He means just that, bringing in the federal government, to enforce a state's job, and they use what means is at their disposal as they see fit...and that includes the military, like the national guard, army, etc.


I'm not sure what it is that you're not understanding, but I already listed why that's not a good idea in the previous page.
 
There's a major difference. Obama was a black liberal mooslim who was coming for their guns, while Trump is an orange non-liberal mooslim hater who's going to cure the gun violence in Chicago by giving everyone more guns. #MAGA : More American Guns? AWESOME!
I'm just hoping they stand by the rhetoric of small government, not just because of who was in the white house. This is their chance to overcome that stereotypic the way I see it.
 
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You so are actually just putting words in trump's mouth. Trump didn't mean FBI when he said feds. Feds means armed marines. This is why trump has a chance at presidency. Because there is and has been a lot of proof of news organizations twisting his words to create a controversy.
I think Trump just doesn't actually know, but supposedly in the case of marshall law, it'd be very legal to use the marines as a police force. That's just something I read on reddit though, so I'm not 100% credible on this one.
 
I think Trump just doesn't actually know, but supposedly in the case of marshall law, it'd be very legal to use the marines as a police force. That's just something I read on reddit though, so I'm not 100% credible on this one.

Yep, because federal agents work with the military to carry out enforcement.
 
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Don't federal agents (FBI agents) regularly get involved with local police during high priority investigations? Or is that just something they make up on cop shows?
 
Don't federal agents (FBI agents) regularly get involved with local police during high priority investigations? Or is that just something they make up on cop shows?

As far as I know, it's usually in cooperation when the investigation involves someone that is breaking federal law, or maybe crossing state boundaries, or crap like that.
 
Don't federal agents (FBI agents) regularly get involved with local police during high priority investigations? Or is that just something they make up on cop shows?
Regularly, no. It has to be a federal issue or something substantial like a serial killer, etc.
 
Anybody acting as an agent of the federal government, can be considered a "fed."

Just as in the los angeles riots in the early 90's(I lived in LA during time).



The California Army National Guard was federalized and became active federal agents.

What Plainview is saying, if trump federalizes the Illinois National Guard OR sends federal military personnel, without the request of the governor of Illinois it will cause riots and it will.

It's a federal military invasion at that point.
Feds means FBI. It does not mean any employee employed by the U.S. Government. This is a ridiculous attempt to twist trumps words. Also you can't "federalize" the National Guard. That makes no sense. They already work for the federal government.
 
Feds means FBI. It does not mean any employee employed by the U.S. Government. This is a ridiculous attempt to twist trumps words. Also you can't "federalize" the National Guard. That makes no sense. They already work for the federal government.


No, it doesn't. I suggest you look it up. Even CIA, or hell, IRS are considered Feds.
 
Feds means FBI. It does not mean any employee employed by the U.S. Government. This is a ridiculous attempt to twist trumps words. Also you can't "federalize" the National Guard. That makes no sense. They already work for the federal government.

I'm not twisting anything. Seems like you have a different interpretation than I do. feds = any agent of the federal government in my book.

As to the National Guard:

The Constitution of the United States specifically charges the National Guard with dual federal and state missions. When under the control of its state governor, national guard functions range from limited actions during non-emergency situations to full scale law enforcement of martial law when local law enforcement officials can no longer maintain civil control. The National Guard may be called into federal service in response to a call by the President or Congress.

So yes, it can be federalized. Otherwise, it is controlled by individual states.
 
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Thanks Trump!


Right, what about it going from 6,500 all the way to 18,500 or 19,000 under Obama? No thanks there? Of course not.

Don't worry, when the bubble bursts, and it will, I'll make sure to thank trump, but I have inkling that you will blame obama and democrats even though the GOP has control of all 3 branches.
 
I'm not twisting anything. Seems like you have a different interpretation than I do. feds = any agent of the federal government in my book.

As to the National Guard:
Feds = FBI. You are trying way too hard to claim he in any way said he's sending in the military. His tweet had nothing to do with riots. He said he wanted to curb the rising crime rate. So no one is instating martial law. People just overreact and twist his words.
 
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