Well back when I (and prolly a majority of us here) were kids it wasn't you wanna hang out and play some video games, it was you wanna play some Nintendo. The name was ubiquitous with video games, not now.
The rumors of Nintendo's death* have not been exaggerated.
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Well back when I (and prolly a majority of us here) were kids it wasn't you wanna hang out and play some video games, it was you wanna play some Nintendo. The name was ubiquitous with video games, not now.
I dunno, I think the GC was very noticeably better. I think its just that Nintendo game stand out style wise more than being technically impressive and there weren't that many 3rd party games to really showcase the GC's power; which was arguably right there with the Xbox one 1(or Xbox 1 one?).
See me and my mates were split down the middle.
Half Sega and the other Nintendo so we rotated what we played.
Wait.. How were you not cutting each other all the time, let alone.... SHARING! You sir, are a disgrace to the WAR!
I highly doubt Nintendo goes third party like Sega, but I did read that Nintendo sold its majority stake in the Seattle Mariners for $661 million back in April. They purchased the team for 221 million in 1992.
I'm just amazed that a newly IP Splatoon sold like 4 million plus on an installed-base of 17 Million Wii Us. Pretty much tells you Nintendo first party > Sony + MS combined.
I'm just amazed that a newly IP Splatoon sold like 4 million plus on an installed-base of 17 Million Wii Us. Pretty much tells you Nintendo first party > Sony + MS combined.
It could also be because there are so few games on Wii U, any decent game releasing will get a lot of attention.
For example, when Intellivision phased out and INTV picked up releasing some games in 1986 and 1987, some of these games sold as much as games during the main years in 1981-83. Although hardly anyone played Intellivision anymore, the gamers that still played it (like my fam along with NES) bought almost every game that came out because at that time only about 8-10 games came out from 1986-87. We bought almost every one because there was no selection to pick from. Take it or leave it.
Yeah, or it tells you that they release new games so rarely that people will buy whatever comes out, I mean let's face it, it wasn't really competing with anything.
My bad. 13 million as of June 30, 2016 according to Nintendo website. I saw someone posted 17 million on CAG so I thought that was about right since Wii U launched a year before PS4/X1.
Basically 1/3 Wii U Owners bought Splatoon.
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/hard_soft/
And that 13 M is actually going to be lower, since that's Nintendo's financials in that link. Companies don't state sell-through data. They communicate shipment sales. Actual gamers sales might be 12 M.
Never the less, 4 M sales of Splatoon is about a 33% attach rate which is absurdly high for a game that is not packed in with a system. Maybe games like Super Mario on NES or Combat on Atari 2600 have an attach rate like that since it comes with the system, but in no way would any game on an MS or Sony system have 33% of gamers buying it. Not even Call of Duty or GTA sell so many copies 1/3 of a platform buys it.
So it shows to me, an attach rate like that is due to almost no games for Wii U, where gamers will buy up anything released.
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The attach rates being high on Wii U also has to do with audience not being diverse. You pretty much have hardcore Nintendo fans and that is it.
The original point is still true though. Look how their first party games sold on 3DS and Wii
The original point is still true though. Look how their first party games sold on 3DS and Wii
Truth, and worth pointing that they aren't gonna be bothered by reasons when you can sell that many units. Now, if they do manage reel in third party support, that may spell an end to that kind of thing. If they get all the money from each game, that won't incentivise them to dilute the pool.
The handhelds get good third party support and the the first party games still sell in big numbers.
I was referring to their console, not the handheld marjet they have a virtual monoply on.
Rumors of a subscription based model now? My God. That'll being the end even faster. DO IT! Third-party support will be going, completely. Also, their revenue will be so low compared to selling games that games will be far harder to fund. Less creativity. Less variety. It's all bad news for Nintendo.
Oh, I agree that they make good games, just that the relative rarity accounts for a portion of the attach rate.
Maybe we'll get an acceptable online with a sub. That's all they really need. Some decent games with good online. Black Ops 2 on the Wii U was money.
I don't see how a video game sub plan would work. How would Nintendo divvy it out? The more downloads the more money a dev earns? What if hardly anyone buy NX, but 30 games come out at launch? Is Nintendo going to guarantee a minimum pay out?
Part of the benefit of having physical goods is pipeline orders. This goes for any physical good.
I'm making up numbers..... if there are 10,000 walmarts, 10,000 Gamestops and 5,000 Best Buys. That's 25,000 stores right off the bat. Even if you ignore all other brick and mortar stores, online stores, wholesalers etc....., if 25,000 stores each order 5 copies to fill that space on the rack, that's right away 125,000 copes sold just to satisfy the first batch of inventory.
How is a sub plan going to match something like that?
Someone will bring up Netflix, but most of the movies and shows have already had their box office run. The tv show might be on season 3 on network tv, but Netflix now gets season 1. Again, the've made their money. Netflix is extra money.
And the system comes with the sub plan? I don't see it. OK, most people rent their cable box as a monthly fee, but the key difference is that the media companies who offer the media have their own stores to handle the admin of taking in and returning boxes.
I don't see Best Buy or Walmart wanting to handle subscription boxes.
Part of the benefit of having physical goods is pipeline orders. This goes for any physical good.
I'm making up numbers..... if there are 10,000 walmarts, 10,000 Gamestops and 5,000 Best Buys. That's 25,000 stores right off the bat. Even if you ignore all other brick and mortar stores, online stores, wholesalers etc....., if 25,000 stores each order 5 copies to fill that space on the rack, that's right away 125,000 copes sold just to satisfy the first batch of inventory.
How is a sub plan going to match something like that?
Someone will bring up Netflix, but most of the movies and shows have already had their box office run. The tv show might be on season 3 on network tv, but Netflix now gets season 1. Again, the've made their money. Netflix is extra money.
And the system comes with the sub plan? I don't see it. OK, most people rent their cable box as a monthly fee, but the key difference is that the media companies who offer the media have their own stores to handle the admin of taking in and returning boxes.
I don't see Best Buy or Walmart wanting to handle subscription boxes.
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