Can't we just agree that Bungie is behind the times on tech and their engine isn't conducive for decoupling its CPU framerate limits from the GPU.
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Who knew Bungie's game engines are (supposedly) so advanced with physics, AI and scope that every console game is 30 fps.
I've only dabbled with demos with Halo games (360) and Destiny (X1), but I don't see what's so advanced about them that they can't do better.
Ok, maybe for last gen games, only small map games like CoD did it. But if a game like BF can run at 60 fps with all the crap going on X1/PS4, I don't see how or why Destiny is so pushed to the limit it can only run at 30 fps.
Doesn't matter. If you don't want to play Halo MP or Gears MP. GO OFFLINE. Then its story focused.
Fact
Uncharted 4 = 3rd person shooter
Gears of War = 3rd person shooter
Horizon Zero Dawn = open world rpg
Sea of Thieves = open world rpg
God of war = hack and slash
Ryse = hack and slash
Spider man = openworld superhero game
Crackdown = openworld superhero game
Story focused isn't a genre. Its a made up term to defame Xbox exclusives and enshrine others
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They're co-op focused. Hardly have a story compared to Sony's heavy hitters but yeah Halo and Gears are great single player games. If you like shooting aliens. For most, it got boring ages ago. Co-op is rock solid though. My friends and I loved going back to Gears campaign all through last gen.
Just not seeing where the variety is. Where the gritty single player story focused games like Uncharted, The Last of Us, and Horizon are. It's a problem for Microsoft. This industry was built on single player games, not multiplayer. If multiplayer was king then nobody would touch any other platform other than PC.
No one can, that's why its such a contentious issue. Destiny 1 looked like a cross gen game (it was) and Destiny 2 looks barely improved graphically.
They're not any specific mode focused because there's no specific way to play them, they're just an option you can ignore.
Shipping without a campaign is a valid criticism. Insinuating that one 3rd person shooter is not as story focused as another is reaching...especially since Uncharted and Horizon have generic plots and Especially since 2 of the IP you mentioned have multiplayer and the 3rd is a GAAS
What would placate you? That Gears 5 have 5 hours of cutscenes instead of 2?
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Ask 343i how focused they were on Halo 5's story. It was a complete afterthought. Microsoft needs to step it up. You know this, but you continue to ignore it. Have fun though. That's what we're here to do. If you believe their direction is flawless, more power to you.
I guessed right. He did that classic thing where he pretends really hard not to be unbiased, so much that it's just overly obvious it's him. He'll take any angle to make it appear he doesn't hate MS.
Seems to me like you're confusing not liking the story with it with it not existing.
Halo 5 had 7 novels surrounding it and in lead up, a 40 issue comic book series, 2 seasons of an audio drama, 117 pieces of lore, 2+ hours of cutscenes and 3 levels with no shooting specifically for story exploration.
You need to specify what it is you're looking for if not 3 more hours of cutscenes, it can't be cohesiveness given Uncharted 4s continuity errors in the canon
If the story is afterthought, how's it not fair to look at an offline game from a Publisher who charges $60 for online and call its replayability an afterthought? Shouldn't one expect Sony to support the PSN network with game modes from 10 years ago?
How come assassins creed, mass effect and GTA can do it all and the one charging can't be bothered?
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Actually forget it, you keep calling them story focused, I'll keep calling them unfinished
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Do you? Good is subjective. MP being part of the experience is nothing new though. Hell, Pong was multiplayer. You know what I remember? Games were just damn fun with or without a friend. I remember spending hours playing Ninja Gaiden or Castlevania. I also remember spending way more hours playing Bubble Bobble, Street Fighter 2, Streets of Rage, Contra, Altered Beast, War, Guerrilla War, etc. with friends. Single player can be good for a time, but multiplayer can be great for much longer, and it's not a new development. After all, it's good to play together.
I am thinking that there were several reasons that VR was a no-show at E3. For one, the games just aren't ready yet. Second, they want to incubate the Windows MR environment on PC. Third, they kind of announced that they are waiting on wireless tech to emerge first. They are just getting the pieces in place first. All of this points to them releasing one or several certified "Works with Xbox" headsets out of the more flexible WinMR category. Lastly, they probably just want to focus on launching the Xbox One X this year, without the additional hardware release and developer environment software issues. This also increases the install base (if it's just for X)
I wish they were ready now, but all of this will really make a better product, in the end.
Weird thing about Microsoft's show is once I got over the fact that they have no AAA flagship exclusives that show off the power of X1X outside of Forza, I went back and watched a bunch of the game videos again. There's a ton of Indies that look good. Ironically this might be a better year for people to get a S if they don't have a Xbox.
This was the best showing of Indies I've seen at one point in time and I may buy a bunch of them. I'm more interested in Battlegrounds than Battlefront. I still really want State of Decay 2 despite the jank. Ashen's gameplay reveal that showed Dark Souls-esque gameplay was great. Cuphead and Ori might be the highest quality games Microsoft is publishing. Last Night and Artful Escape look really cool.
Think we're sleeping on Black Desert. I've never played a MMORPG but I've also never seen one with that level of graphics and fast gameplay. That looked bigger budget than Microsoft's 1st party stuff.
This was the best showing of Indies I've seen at one point in time and I may buy a bunch of them. I'm more interested in Battlegrounds than Battlefront. I still really want State of Decay 2 despite the jank. Ashen's gameplay reveal that showed Dark Souls-esque gameplay was great. Cuphead and Ori might be the highest quality games Microsoft is publishing. Last Night and Artful Escape look really cool.
Think we're sleeping on Black Desert. I've never played a MMORPG but I've also never seen one with that level of graphics and fast gameplay. That looked bigger budget than Microsoft's 1st party stuff.
I posted these in another thread. But it looks like everyone is lingering over here still.
One of the ID@Xbox games that I thought looked good.
This is from April. BTW does MS still not break out paid subs from non paid when reporting? haven't paid attention in a while.
https://venturebeat.com/2017/04/27/...-division-generated-1-9-billion-last-quarter/
Obviously the coolest game of the show! If you disagree, you're opinion is wrong and you're a s*** person.
I mean, the developer is called Beethoven and Dinosaurs!!! That's f***ing rad!
The lead designer is called Johnny Galvatron!!!
There's naked saggy titted women with Lazer eyes!!!!
It's soooooo cool!!!!
In the end, so many users get outted on GAF it is a miracle that anyone trusts anything from there
That tweet looks as if Gaming Bolt (sh*t publication) misidentified "Matt" as being Matt Pettineo, and then retracted it when they were made aware of their mistake. Afaik, Matt at GAF doesn't go around saying his full name. I could be wrong. I am not plugged into GAF as much as some. But last I checked, Matt had a pretty good reputation there.
Rollins posted this in the Forza Motorsport 7 thread and I thought everyone would appreciate this:
This week marks the one-year anniversary since the Xbox Scorpio (now Xbox One X) was revealed at E3 2016. In the past year, Microsoft has regularly teased how powerful this machine would be, but mostly in terms like "six teraflops" and "60Hz rendering." Everyone knows those specs are impressive, but it's tough to quantify how that translates to running games. We're basically just told that the games run well.
In a behind closed doors presentation with Microsoft, we were given a statistic that seems particularly impressive. Forza Motorsport 7 content director John Wendl told us that there's a 30 percent surplus on the GPU, even when running the game at 4K resolution and 60 frames per second. That's surprisingly not-close to the Xbox One X's limits.
The coming months will probably be full of claims like this. Like with PS4 Pro's enhancements, everyone will want to explain how and why their games run better on the new hardware. But, as we collectively find out more and more about Xbox One X, this is another interesting anecdote that sheds just a little more light on what Microsoft's new console is capable of.
https://www.destructoid.com/the-xbo...n-when-running-forza-at-4k-60fps-441794.phtml
This week marks the one-year anniversary since the Xbox Scorpio (now Xbox One X) was revealed at E3 2016. In the past year, Microsoft has regularly teased how powerful this machine would be, but mostly in terms like "six teraflops" and "60Hz rendering." Everyone knows those specs are impressive, but it's tough to quantify how that translates to running games. We're basically just told that the games run well.
In a behind closed doors presentation with Microsoft, we were given a statistic that seems particularly impressive. Forza Motorsport 7 content director John Wendl told us that there's a 30 percent surplus on the GPU, even when running the game at 4K resolution and 60 frames per second. That's surprisingly not-close to the Xbox One X's limits.
The coming months will probably be full of claims like this. Like with PS4 Pro's enhancements, everyone will want to explain how and why their games run better on the new hardware. But, as we collectively find out more and more about Xbox One X, this is another interesting anecdote that sheds just a little more light on what Microsoft's new console is capable of.
https://www.destructoid.com/the-xbo...n-when-running-forza-at-4k-60fps-441794.phtml
There's a Below t-shirt. What happened to that game?Spencer going on giant bombs show today.
Always a great interview
They said a while back that they were going dark until the had something to show. However long that may take. It's probably dead.
Yep, thats accurate. Matt is a solid poster, he just seems to upset posters of all walks of life when he basically tells them that Santa isn't real. He's been spot on with any info he has given out as far as I can tell.
Don't think it's the same guy, NOBODY would take a word he says seriously there if it were.
The games are getting better impressions in person than they did in the trailers. Seems like Indies are having a coming out party. Better impressions of the gameplay than the graphics. It's all opposite of what I expected. I expected shiny stuff to show off the powerful console. Still don't get why Microsoft didn't have any super pretty exclusive outside of Forza. Next 12 months should be good for games even though games that show off your 4K tv will be limited in that time.
As they should. You can't really simulate what these games will look like or play like watching on a stream. Seeing is believing and if nothing else Sea of Thieves, Crackdown 3, and Ori will be amazingly beautiful and fun games. I'm with you though, would be nice to have a gritty game or two to show off the raw power of Xbox One X. Maybe Halo 6 is the game that finally gets some recognition for being a graphical monster.