Trump To Meet With Video Game Industry
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There’s not a lot to debate here. This tactic is a regular distraction to change the subject. Whether you agree with semi-autos being legal or not, this conversation was pushed by the NRA so that gun sales wouldn’t be negatively impacted by regulation. Continuing to engage is this debate, even if nothing happens to games and other violent media, means they’ve accomplished everything they wanted to. They being the NRA. This topic should die on every message board and news media because there is no new evidence in the past 2 decades to make us re-open this case.
On the other hand, semi-auto massacres are increasing and the evidence that a semi-auto is far more lethal than other rifles in mass killings is undisputed...so it’s more than fair to re-open that discussion.
Side note...if the United States is overrun by hostile leadership that decides to turn on its people violently, you’ll need drone defense...not a semi-auto. I think all the NRA arguments are grossly outdated. Hopefully our younger people see this stupidity and save us from ourselves when they can vote.
On the other hand, semi-auto massacres are increasing and the evidence that a semi-auto is far more lethal than other rifles in mass killings is undisputed...so it’s more than fair to re-open that discussion.
Side note...if the United States is overrun by hostile leadership that decides to turn on its people violently, you’ll need drone defense...not a semi-auto. I think all the NRA arguments are grossly outdated. Hopefully our younger people see this stupidity and save us from ourselves when they can vote.
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Bit of an exaggeration, but correct in spirit
I was thinking along the lines of "you can die for your country but you can't have a beer"
No 17year old would have access to WMDs in the military, but I get your point. I also say that if you can't handle a videogame then you have no business voting either. If we as a society decide the adult age is 25 (lol) then how long till it's 30? At some point you have to nut up and grow up, and be expected to.
Sorry I got my definition of WMD from George W. Bush. lol But you can join up at 17 and in less than a year have access to artillery and other heavy weapons. Many tank, air and naval crews have people under the age of 21, who do have access to that stuff. That's all I was getting at.
I think that if people can't handle a video game, movie, or even a firearm safely at the age of 18 then our society is in deep s***. Just a generation ago it was pretty common for someone under 21 years of age to be married with kids and a career. It's like civilization is moving backwards or something.
Raising the age to buy a gun or vote to any age other than 18 is really serious business though. You are legally an adult American citizen at age 18, so we are talking about violating the constitutional rights of millions of people here. Not to mention deciding adults of any age are allowed to watch or play, which is exactly what dictatorships and communist countries like China do, btw.
Weeeeelll, not to be pedantic, but no 18 yo is getting unsupervised access to anything. There are multiple levels of supervisors from squads to platoon to company. I don't know your background, but you may be surprised at just how not often you even have access to your assigned weapon, depending on your MOS.
I'm with you on the rest. Nanny State and helicopter parents are infantalizing our youth.
Good article reviewing the literature there. Studies do show a link between videogames and aggression, but it's short-term aggression, and it doesn't translate to actual real-world violence, nor is it much different than what you see with violent movies/TV.
A couple days ago, I heard a colleague say, "the problem is these videogames..." It's a guy in his 70s, who's never played a videogame in his life and knows only what the media (Fox News, mostly) tells him. I let it go. He's stuck in his ways, and I don't need to be the guy in the office who defends videogames. But it's annoying.
Like others have said, nothing will come of this. They'll meet, and nothing will happen. The politicians just need to be able to say they had a meeting, because apparently that means something has been accomplished. And it shifts the blame/focus.
It is all tribalism and talking points. The right is pro gun and wants zero discussion on this, so they shift, dodge, pivot and deflect.
If video games were even a problem for 1 in 1000 kids, our schools would be shooting galleries.
The truth is these awful events are still very, very, very rare.
Those stats include gangs and regular crime, which is like 99.99999% of it. There's horrible violence in cities like Chicago, Baltimore, etc but that has nothing to do with the mass shootings we're talking about (and certainly not motivated by video games either)
check the last 2.
the USA has shown time and again that it would rather let it's kids be murdered than change the constitution for the age we live in and not some past where guns were really needed.
Not sure which side you're coming at me from, but we don't need to change the Constitution to put in lots of common sense regulations. You seem kind of wrapped up in the binary thinking that is the problem with the issue.
The gun lobbies have tried to convince everyone that the 2nd Amendment means "no gun laws at all", but of course that's been shot down by the courts time and time again. The 2nd amendment isn't actually the problem at all.
The main point is video games have nothing to do with any of this.