Who's upgrading their PS4 harddrive right away?

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From what I've read its believed the stock drive will be a 500GB 5400 RPM with 8mb of cache.
Can any tech heads tell me if getting a larger drive with 7200RPM and 32mb of cache would be substantially beneficial?
 
With multiple games coming out that are saying to be 50 or so gigs each I would say that you pretty much have to upgrade to a larger drive. 500 isn't going to last long... wish MS and Sony both would have ponied up for at least 1Tb if they knew game sizes would start out where they are at.
 
I'm going to wait. I have a 500 gb in my PS3, and it's been in there for a few years now. I'll upgrade eventually, but 500 gb should be fine for at least a year. At least I hope so.
 
Yeah, going to wait as well. I never upgraded my Phat 60GB PS3 and it was fine for this gen.
 
Will wait until it becomes necessary.

Btw, after all the Xbox36 HDD price-jacking I've gone through over the years, I'm GDF'in grateful I can just swap out my HDD for a reasonably-priced PC one.
 
I feel the same as many of you guys. I'll wait until it becomes necessary. If i would get a nice speed boost from upgrading, i would consider it sooner.
 
Are we talking about mandatory installs that are going to take up 50GB/game? That seems excessive. If it's just for digital-download titles, sure, I believe it. But if you own the disc, I can't see 50GB installs being needed. Also, are the larger hard-drives going to be official Sony-branded drives?
 
I don't think so. I haven't even used 50 of the 250 I've got now.
 
I might be a guinea pig and upgrade my PS4 to an SSD.

But I'll need a day or 2 to devote to making it matter. Will need to download a couple of games and do load time tests, then switch the drives.. re-download and do more tests after the SSD is there.

Either that, or I'm going to wait a while because surely some tech head sites will be doing all kinds of tests like that.

I have an unused 480GB SSD right now for the task. I'm going DD only too.. I'm not nearly as worried about space as most of you seem to be. I doubt I'll fill it quickly.. and when I do fill it, I'll have plenty of games I no longer need immediate access too and can delete.

But yes.. either way, a 7200RPM drive should give you a decent load time boost. It's just how that works.. 5400RPM is slow as s***.
 
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X1 and PS4 come with plenty of room. 500 gb will let you install a good 8 games (assuming the remaining 100 gb is enough to cover the OS, game saves, small digital indie games, map packs, DLC and such).

Are there people who are going to buy up 8 50 gb games right away?

Also, spending $100 for an external HDD goes against the whole "PS4 is cheap at $400, while X1 is too much at $500"
 
Also, spending $100 for an external HDD goes against the whole "PS4 is cheap at $400, while X1 is too much at $500"
No it doesn't. They both come with the same size HDD, so the price would increment proportionality for either system if adding an external drive. Nice try though, I know you can't help yourself.
 
I was under the impression that you could not fit a 1TB drive as they are to big to fit in the hard drive tray.
I have a "WD Blue 1 TB Mobile Hard Drive: 2.5 Inch, 5400 RPM, SATA II, 8 MB Cache - WD10JPVT" and it fit in my PS3 just fine. I think it is one of the few that will fit, though. I would've preferred 7200rpm, but I don't think that's an option at 1TB that will fit in PS3. I replaced my PS3 hard drive 2-3 times and I finally had enough of it and got the biggest I could. I'm not doing that BS with the PS4. When I can get a 2TB for a decent price, I probably will. Then again, if the progressive install is unobtrusive like it is supposed to be, I won't worry about disk space this gen.
 
No it doesn't. They both come with the same size HDD, so the price would increment proportionality for either system if adding an external drive. Nice try though, I know you can't help yourself.

I really hope Sony has an external HDD option like Microsoft is talking about for X1. Would definitely make life easier, but I'm sure it's a matter of being able to secure the content on an external drive.
 
Is that definite? I wasn't sure.
Definite? I am not sure, I am only going from the tweet from Yoshida, where he was asked if there was going to be external hdd support for installing and he simply answered with 'no'. There may be external hdd support for other media though I guess
 
Definite? I am not sure, I am only going from the tweet from Yoshida, where he was asked if there was going to be external hdd support for installing and he simply answered with 'no'. There may be external hdd support for other media though I guess
Gotcha. That's close enough to definitive at least for the near future. Wish they'd consider it, though.
 
Gotcha. That's close enough to definitive at least for the near future. Wish they'd consider it, though.
It'll surely come. Both MS and Sony are rushing their systrems to market to an extent. Though many games are ready, both sides have their incompatibilities at this point.... external HDDs, various current gen headsets not working yet, Sony's PS3 BR remote doesn't work, etc..... Chances are many of these will work with a patch of some kind, but everyone just has to wait it out.
 
Gotcha. That's close enough to definitive at least for the near future. Wish they'd consider it, though.
If someone is planning on upgrading the HDD thinking they'll install 50 gb games on it, no. But if someone is planning on using it for other types of stuff (media), then sure.

http://techland.time.com/2013/09/04...supports-external-storage-but-theres-a-catch/

Yes, the PlayStation 4 Supports External Storage, but There’s a Catch
Game installs look like a no-go.
By Matt Peckham @mattpeckhamSept. 04, 20136 Comments

It was probably a given, but we now know that while the PlayStation 4 supports external storage (like the PlayStation 3 before it), we won’t be able to use that storage to play downloaded games. Thank Sony games honcho Shuhei Yoshida — one of those rare corporate divisional presidents who spends a pile of time fielding questions on Twitter, pretty much daily – for confirming as much last week.

  1. Jay @_Tracid_
    @yosp Hello Mr Yoshida, can we use external hard drive to install games without having it on the main internal hard drive?

I’m assuming that’s not an anti-piracy thing, since Sony uses a generic 500GB internal hard drive in the PS4 and supports swapping it in or out, just like the PS3.

Shuhei Yoshida @yosp
And yes, PS4's HDD is upgradable like PS3 <3

4:04 AM - 11 Jun 2013

If you’re hoping to lock down your hard drive in an attempt to thwart freebooters (hey there, Xbox 360), you’d never make your internal drive swappable. And since Sony doesn’t sell PlayStation-branded hard drives priced upwards of twice what you’d pay for the same hard drive off whatever store shelf (hey again, Xbox 360), it’s also not a proprietary profit-making thing.

Okay, so a transfer speed issue then? Probably not. I don’t know enough about the PS4′s developmental architecture to make a blanket assumption, but while an external hard drive standard like eSATA (which the PS4 doesn’t support) is faster than USB 2.0, USB 3.0 (which the PS4 does support) brings things at least up to par with eSATA, give or take nominal differences when performing different transfer functions. In theory, there’s no reason the PS4 shouldn’t be able to play games running off a speedy external hard drive tethered with a USB 3.0 cable.

Indeed, computer-based gamers do as much today via external hard drives, playing Steam-based games without incident. Or take Nintendo’s Wii U, which employs USB 2.0: the console supports running games off external hard drives — indeed, the top-end Deluxe model only comes with 32GB of internal storage, so plugging in an external hard drive is mandatory if you’re scarfing from the full-downloads trough. It’s perplexing, to me anyway, that Sony wouldn’t support gaming off an external drive.

Not that Microsoft‘s doing much better: Speaking at PAX a few days ago, Larry Hryb (aka Major Nelson) confirmed that while the Xbox One will eventually support external storage, the feature won’t be present at launch because “the team is working on some other things.”

And yes, you’ll need a lot more than 500GB if you’re going all-digital. Not day one. Maybe not even year one. But we’re talking, at least in some instances, 50GB per game; do the math and that’s less than a dozen games before you’re forced to play the “which do I play least” game.

I hope, as I’m sure most do, that Sony eventually comes around and supports playing games off external hard drives (Microsoft, too, if it’s planning the same, though Engadget claimed back in May that the company’s senior director of product planning had said the Xbox One would ultimately support installing games to an external device). That, or Sony ought to explain, candidly and in some detail, why this feature’s a no-go.