Xbox One HDD full @ 362GB / 500GB

Rover said:
I wonder many games do people play at a time where they always need access to it? I'm probably an outer edge case since I only play one game at a time, finish it, then move on to the next game without going back to the last game I just finished, since I mainly play single player campaign games, so replay factor isn't huge for me. Therefore, for me, I would never need 20 games installed at once anyways as I wouldn't be going back to play most of those games I already beat again.

However, if I have the space I would just leave games installed even if I beat them already like on my comp where my steam folder is 700 gigs right now, but space isn't an issue on my comp.
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I usually do play straight through a single player game when I game after getting it, but I also do go back frequently to replay games if I enjoy the experience or there's more to see (e.g., Paragon/Renegade in ME, save/harvest in Bioshock, etc.) And then my 8 year old often plays quite a few different games, at least on 360 - he'd fire up Blue Dragon, or any one of about eleventeen trillion LEGO games depending on what he feels like playing on a Saturday.
 
I never filled up my 250gb slim hard drive and I installed all my games from the disc so I don't seeing this being an issue for me
 
Those 3 operating systems must be taking some amount off from the HDD.

I'd like to see IGN do it with the PS4 now.
 
Mcmasters said:
They didnt want users to have to worry about how much HD was being used so they created it to manage space automatically. I still would like the ability to do so manually however....
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Uh you can, you can uninstall your game data anytime you want, Xbox One doesn't auto manage your install data at all. MS' auto memory management is strictly in regards to game saves...
I mean MS even wrote a statement on this prior to the console's release.
 
Its a give and take with both systems, with the Ones external ability it makes it less of a headache..with the PS4's rapid install speed that to makes it a bit easier.

My biggest concern is the PS4 tho in terms of storage a year from now because of PS+.
I have a TB in my PS3 now and its not enough. I downloaded Bianary Domain and Grid 2 and had to delete Xcom and Deus Ex...now Borderlands 2 is coming free and I'm gonna have delete something else :(
My own fault for hoarding games tho lol Luckily if you download them then delete then you "own" them even after they lose "free" listing and you can redownload them at no cost still :)

My worry is a year from now I'm gonna encouter it again with my PS4 Once PS+ starts rolling out a ton of free crap. Only brightside is the few seconds it takes to start the game in seconds as the download starts. Still rather have the option of an external like the Xbone.
 
That was my next question. I know some of the games pull parts of it off the cloud like titanfall will do. Will an external hard drive hinder that any?
 
VaLLiancE said:
just get a external
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Just get an external. Just get a new smartphone. Just get a tablet. Just get Smart Glass. Just get a new Turtle Beach. Anything else they want us to buy on top of our already overpriced $500 console, Xbox Live Gold, games, controllers, & internet? lol.

Just saying...
 
devilsgrin_6 said:
Just get an external. Just get a new smartphone. Just get a tablet. Just get Smart Glass. Just get a new Turtle Beach. Anything else they want us to buy on top of our already overpriced $500 console, Xbox Live Gold, games, controllers, & internet? lol.

Just saying...
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Well you don't have 2 get one..
But thankfully its a option and we don't gotta use a overpriced MS made one.
 
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pravus said:
Wtf is on my HDD?

That is nuts. There is no way the OS is that big, it has to be reserved space or something.
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Probably cache. All Xbox models have always had the ability to use an available HD as cache space for games. The OG Xbox had 3 750 MB partitions for cache (IIRC). Don't remember the 360 reservation. I have no plans to get near 20 games bought until likely next holiday and a good portion of those will have been traded in or completed and marked for deletion (the ones I know I'll never replay for instance). That said, the external HDD support update is something they need to get out sooner rather than later.
 
With 391GB available, shouldn't the OP subject line be updated?
 
Soldier 95B said:
With 391GB available, shouldn't the OP subject line be updated?
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Well, ifixit said 391GB but then how come IGN can't install a 3GB file once they reached 362GB? One is real-world usage and the other is a teardown. So which one to believe?
 
DriedMangoes said:
Well, ifixit said 391GB but then how come IGN can't install a 3GB file once they reached 362GB? One is real-world usage and the other is a teardown. So which one to believe?
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Do any of the games they have installed have patches?
 
VaLLiancE said:
The os is on the internal..which can limit the speed of the external drives.
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Uhh.. no. Having your OS on a separate drive speeds up access, not slows it down.

USB 3.0 is really fast. Theoretically an SSD connected to the USB 3.0 will perform better than the internal 5400 RPM drive.

Especially since the vast majority of it will be reading from the drive. USB 3.0 starts slowing down with a lot of writes, but you are limited by your drive speed on reads.

Say something else wrong ;)
 
BunzHoles said:
Uhh.. no. Having your OS on a separate drive speeds up access, not slows it down.

USB 3.0 is really fast. Theoretically an SSD connected to the USB 3.0 will perform better than the internal 5400 RPM drive.

Especially since the vast majority of it will be reading from the drive. USB 3.0 starts slowing down with a lot of writes, but you are limited by your drive speed on reads.

Say something else wrong ;)
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The OS is the heart of the console and the OS is installed on the internal HDD.
A (*COUGH* very expensive) external SSD drive would be limited by the internal drive and the USB 3.0 speed(which is fast).
 
VaLLiancE said:
The OS is the heart of the console and the OS is installed on the internal HDD.
A (*COUGH* very expensive) external SSD drive would be limited by the internal drive and the USB 3.0 speed(which is fast).
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An external drive's speed is not limited by the internal drives speed, or what drive the OS is installed on. You are making things up again.

6GB/sec SATA is faster than 5GB/sec USB 3.0.. but drives aren't even close to that speed. Read speeds from an internal SSD would be very similar to the read speeds from a USB 3.0 external SSD.

You have no clue WTF you are talking about. No, the OS itself wouldn't speed up it's loads... but the OS is then in memory.. any game being loaded from an external USB 3.0 drive would be limited by the speed of the drive not the USB 3.0 port, or the internal drive, or anything else you can make up.

And even a cheap 5400 RPM external should be basically the same speed as the internal drive.

Not "way slower."

Here, let me teach you how to respond.

Valliance said:
Oh really? Thanks.. guess I was thinking about USB 2.0 and don't know what I'm talking about. And for some reason I thought the OS drive mattered, guess not.. gee now I am more knowledgeable!
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If you take a pc and put the OS on a SSD the whole machine will move faster and no I am not saying it will speed up other non SSD drives in the pc. So even though its a bit different think similar then the opposite of that.

Making things up? No just adding them up.... I could be adding wrong though
 
VaLLiancE said:
If you take a pc and put the OS on a SSD the whole machine will move faster and no I am not saying it will speed up other non SSD drives in the pc. So even though its a bit different think similar then the opposite of that.
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Right, the OS itself won't be sped up. That doesn't mean game load times can't be improved.. it doesn't mean that the external is somehow limited by the internal.. and you were 100% wrong about external drives being "way slower" than external drives.

Making things up? No just adding them up.... I could be adding wrong though
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No you are saying things that are wrong.. not true.. factually incorrect..

You repeatedly said the external drive would be limited by the internal drive. SPEAK ENGLISH. If you want to say it won't speed up the OS, then type that.

w.. then o.. then n.. then an apostrophe.. then an s... then a p...
 
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