Xbox One to outsell PlayStation 4 a Baird analyst says...

[SevenDead1ySinz]

The fact that some owners may not have crossed over the generation is irrelevant in calculation market share. Sony lost market share in the console industry plain and simple. It is no different than any other industry where the buyers change all the time

 

[Kvally]

Fail
Ps3 is over 80 million

I haven't seen Sony post their figures stating over 80 million. Last we saw it was 78 million.

But we know the 360 is over 80 million. According to MS at least.

 

[TeKPhaN]

78 million in march

 

[Kvally]

So nothing from Sony.

 

[hrudey]

So nothing from Sony.

I'm sure an anonymous developer has confirmed it somewhere.

 

[TeKPhaN]

So nothing from Sony.

NO WAY THEY SOLD OVER 2 MILLION SINCE MARCH!

 

[SevenDead1ySinz]

NO WAY THEY SOLD OVER 2 MILLION SINCE MARCH!

Worldwide..with new consoles coming? 2 million would be the max they would probably sell between March and November. Instead of guessimating with numbers that sound nice instead wait until the IDC or Sony reveal actual numbers. As it stands MS announced 80 mil, Sony hasn't, you would think if they had reach that milestone then they would have said something, especially after MS piped up about it.

 

[amigaengine]

I dont care who sold what aslong as we get games

 

[TeKPhaN]

Worldwide..with new consoles coming? 2 million would be the max they would probably sell between March and November. Instead of guessimating with numbers that sound nice instead wait until the IDC or Sony reveal actual numbers. As it stands MS announced 80 mil, Sony hasn't, you would think if they had reach that milestone then they would have said something, especially after MS piped up about it.

lol im done talking to you about this

 

[SevenDead1ySinz]

lol im done talking to you about this

Aww that's too bad, but I guess logic just goes against whatever VGChartz likes to make up right? cause they have been right so many times...

 

[TeKPhaN]

Logic? vgchartz=reliable ask MS

if you or anyone here actually believes 360's ahead in WW sales that's funny.

 

[SevenDead1ySinz]

Logic? vgchartz=reliable ask MS

if you or anyone here actually believes 360's ahead in WW sales that's funny.

I believe they are darn close, and no one..not even MS, uses VG for reliable sales data. The Halo 4 cover shows no numbers, it just shows a quote. Sorry but anyone using VGChartz for accurate totals cannot be taken seriously. They don't even update their numbers to reflect real information, they still are showing MS at 78mil. Until Sony or someone like IDC provides real numbers anything else is just a guess based on historical sales patterns.

 

[hrudey]

Logic? vgchartz=reliable ask MS

if you or anyone here actually believes 360's ahead in WW sales that's funny.

If anyone seriously thinks the difference between the two is even remotely significant, that's what is funny. They both sold roughly 80M, give or take a few, and whichever one is slightly higher doesn't get a magical power boost to make it worthwhile.

 

[TeKPhaN]

I believe they are darn close, and no one..not even MS, uses VG for reliable sales data. The Halo 4 cover shows no numbers, it just shows a quote. Sorry but anyone using VGChartz for accurate totals cannot be taken seriously. They don't even update their numbers to reflect real information, they still are showing MS at 78mil. Until Sony or someone like IDC provides real numbers anything else is just a guess based on historical sales patterns.

that quote is enough. Your wishful opinion isn't sorry..

 

[SevenDead1ySinz]

that quote is enough. Your wishful opinion isn't sorry..

And your wishful opinion clinging to VG numbers is? LOL spare me...When Sony announces 80+mil then go ahead and tout it, until then its nothing more than speculation and linear forecasting.

 

[TeKPhaN]

They don't need to shout it MS being in last again does...
If/when they hit 90 or pass the Wii expect them to speak on it.
2nd place they been at and its nothing to brag about since they are still behind Nintendo.

 

[Soldier Gryphon]

Doubt it. I think PlayStation has a tactical advantage in the marketplace being cheaper and having a PR advantage. Not that I don't think Xbox will sell very well. It will.

Or maybe I'm wrong and Xbox will attract more casuals since some of their marketing seems geared towards that.

Nevertheless, I would laugh my @$$ off if they did for all the trolling Sony fans have done.

 

[SevenDead1ySinz]

They don't need to shout it MS being in last again does...
If/when they hit 90 or pass the Wii expect them to speak on it.
2nd place they been at and its nothing to brag about since they are still behind Nintendo.

They certainly would have said something if they had passed 360 sales this generation..as of yet they have not.

 

[Phuque]

The console that will sell the most is the one that will outship the other at launch.

 

[TeKPhaN]

nope

 

[Cody32599]

I wonder which console had the biggest attachment rate.

 

[PermanentSelfBan]

Don't think so.

 

[Ape Still Rules]

Fail
Ps3 is over 80 million

Fail? What are you six? Who cares really as it only adds to the fact that there are more consoles out there this gen than last gen.

 

[The Wolf King]

So ValliancE is cutting right?http://unionvgf.com/index.php?members/valliance.14/

 

[Ape Still Rules]

Not the same...because you're looking at it as if 258 million is different households. We all know that most of them 360 owners also have a PS3.

Notice the number of Gamecubes compared to Wii. Notice the numbers of PS3/360 compared to PS2/xbox. It isn't so much a "lost market share" but rather a changing of market.

PS2 came out 13 years ago. Many of those gamers have moved on. Hell, there's plenty of launch 360 gamers that have moved on. It's not just a different generation of consoles, but we're going to start seeing a different generation of gamers. We're already seeing a large number of gamers becoming more casual gamers, and many of those PS2 era gamers have long since become parents and possibly moved on to casual games for their families.

You're looking at the above numbers as if they're unique numbers and there has been an increase in gamers, when it could be the opposite. Either way, none of us knows. The same way I can't sit here and say "who" owns these consoles, neither can anyone say that marketshare was lost, which insinuates that PS2 era gamers moved over to 360......we don't know that.

Like it or not gaming is bigger and more wide spread this gen than last. Average gamer age is like 37/38. Bottem like is, Sony sold less this gen than last and Microsoft and Nintendo sold more this gen than last.

 

[Dr D Wayne Love]

So ValliancE is cutting right?

Yes and the PS3 took over the xbox 360 in December last year and must be about 5 million ahead now.

Sony, being humble types, just don't like to brag about it.

 

[menace-uk-]

NO WAY THEY SOLD OVER 2 MILLION SINCE MARCH!

The difference here is MS has given official numbers while Sony has not. You may well be correct in your assumption, but to wage argument based on it is a fruitless thing. Lets just wait till Sony offer Official Numbers.

 

[The Wolf King]

Sony went from 70M to 80M in 2 months

The also started combining product sales a couple years ago but hey. But yeah if Sony had out sold the 360 they would have been sure to tell people.

 

[jimmyD]

Aww that's too bad, but I guess logic just goes against whatever VGChartz likes to make up right? cause they have been right so many times...

Logic is lost on that one. Another gen dominated by Sony is the most important thing to some.

I wonder which console had the biggest attachment rate.

360 I'm pretty sure but who cares about that? It is all about the hardware right?

 

[starlight777]

Like it or not gaming is bigger and more wide spread this gen than last. Average gamer age is like 37/38. Bottem like is, Sony sold less this gen than last and Microsoft and Nintendo sold more this gen than last.

and a lot are females and older gamers like Moi
about 45% female and 25% over the age of 50