Yay! DF says X1 version of AC: Unity is L33t! Flynn throws a party! You're invited.

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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-assassins-creed-unity-performance-analysis

Better performance (consistently) on X1 during gameplay, with otherwise identical graphical presentations.

"in the majority of scenarios that challenge the game's 30fps cap, our tests reveal that it is the Xbox One that takes the lead."

"Certainly, from a visual perspective, Assassin's Creed Unity finally brings the series into the new generation, and the results are stunning. The new engine delivers a massive upgrade over last year's instalment, boasting significant improvements in levels of geometry detail on the characters and environments, more complex texturing, and new lighting and shader models that work beautifully in helping to create an almost" photo-realistic look to the game - although the characters often break the illusion, appearing distinctly stylised but encroaching into the uncanny valley at the same time. One of the biggest upgrades comes in the form of a dramatic increase in the amount of NPCs present in the game world, which can go into the low hundreds under specific conditions."

"the Xbox One version frequently out-performs the PS4 game in more detail-rich areas, such as locations littered with NPCs in the packed Parisian streets."

"overall image quality looks like a match between both PS4 and Xbox One"

Either way it looks like all versions of the game do have performance issues.
 
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You really are trying too hard. This is not DF Face-off and they did not declare any victor. Also they said the PS4 is better in cut-scenes and in combat while the Xbox is better outdoors in large crowds. And lets be honest, this game's a mess on every platform and the only definitive version is not playing the game at all.
 
The game is gorgeous, and the X1 enjoys a 25% increase in performance in area where the PS 4 version suffers.

Additionally, DF mentions in those moments, the X1 version has "tangibly more responsive controls."

Minimize all you'd like... Definitive version confirmed.
 
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I'm still getting AC: Unity for the PS4. The franchise has always been better on PS consoles and has had exclusive DLC in the past.

Definitive console confirmed.
 
Kinda of odd either way, you would think the ps4 version would easily outperform xb1.... in all cases, not some.
 
Troublegum said:
Faster CPU innit.
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DF:

In the meantime, the reasons behind the resolution parity and Xbox One's performance advantage remain something of a mystery. We know that the Microsoft hardware has more CPU time available, and that animation and AI tend to stress processor hardware heavily. The sheer volume of objects on-screen means that the CPU is working overtime in order to prepare the draw-call data for the graphics hardware
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maybe its better balanced for this specific type of game idk.
 
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Yeah, I literally laughed out loud when I read the DF article. It was so comically awesome. You're right, Dno69, I couldn't wait to post it.

...and I also eagerly anticipated the zealot fallout and demonstrable hypocrisy that would follow from the usual suspects.

Brilliant all around! It's even sunny here in Redmond. Ah, good times.
 
Obscene Jester said:
Key word : mystery
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But he did prove you wrong.

You claimed the X1 had no CPU advantage, and he showed DF's assessment that your statement is false, in that "We know that the Microsoft hardware has more CPU time available"

So no, the keyword isn't mystery. The key point is that you were wrong to call him out, and incorrect in your assessment. He was factually correct.
 
The game is a mess. People who have pre-ordered should buy games worthy of being played like Dragon Age or GTA V.
 
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timmy-boy said:
The game is a mess. People who have pre-ordered should buy games worthy of being played like Dragon Age or GTA V.
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Hahahaa... of course it is.

Multi-plat game is better on PS4 = Definitive version confirmed!
Multi-plat game is better on X1 = it's garbage anyway!

The zealots never cease to live up to their names. Predictability and hypocrisy at their finest.

NOTE: This thread, and all my posts in it are satire. They're for fun. They're meaningless. The perf difference is negligible, and the game looks gorgeous on both consoles. This thread is a joke, and so are any others like it. These comparisons are silly. They mean nothing. The overall experience is the same on both systems for all multiplat games, with perhaps the exception of one (Tomb Raider) that kind of a frame rate disparity is meaningful, but none of the rest is. It's all just internet c***-measuring of the worst kind, and something gamers should strive to avoid.
 
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maybe its better balanced for this specific type of game idk.
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That is a load of bull and you know it. I don't see any other open world games struggling: Watch Dogs, Mordor, Infamous, GTA V, Far Cry 4, DA: I says hello. This is probably more an issue with Ubisoft's optimization (or lack thereof) of the game. Hope to hear more news in the face-off article or when Ubisoft addresses this issue.
 
We'll see, these consoles have slightly different strengths, and while the gpu side is probably easier to exploit in most cases, we haven't seen a game yet with a huge, highly detailed crowd with hundreds of AI yet, so maybe ubisoft needed more cpu juice here. Either way, this is a terribly performing game.


As a developer I do understand some of it, this a massive undertaking with polygons alone, not to mention all those AI. Even if you are streaming certain elements the player could potentially walk into a scene with 10x the amount of polygons. Thats a TON of strain of these weak cpus.

Can you imagine this at 1080p? they couldn't even get 900p smooth.
 
DriedMangoes said:
That is a load of bull and you know it. I don't see any other open world games struggling: Watch Dogs, Mordor, Infamous, GTA V, Far Cry 4, DA: I says hello. This is probably more an issue with Ubisoft's optimization (or lack thereof) of the game. Hope to hear more news in the face-off article or when Ubisoft addresses this issue.
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you sound mad. Which of those games you mention have hundreds of AI onscreen?


you do understand AI are heavy on processing power and is CPU heavy?
 
de3d1 said:
you sound mad. Which of those games you mention have hundreds of AI onscreen?


you do understand AI are heavy on processing power and is CPU heavy?
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Yes, I know. But the fact that people are experiencing other bugs like random crowd pop-ins, face disfiguring, performance issues tells you the game is not ready for launch. I mean, that's what QA is for, right? The game seems to have a lot of bugs regardless of the AI.
 
Flynn said:
Hahahaa... of course it is.

Multi-plat game is better on PS4 = Definitive version confirmed!
Multi-plat game is better on X1 = it's garbage anyway!

The zealots never cease to live up to their names. Predictability and hypocrisy at their finest.

NOTE: This thread, and all my posts in it are satire. They're for fun. They're meaningless. The perf difference is negligible, and the game looks gorgeous on both consoles. This thread is a joke, and so are any others like it. These comparisons are silly. They mean nothing. The overall experience is the same on both systems for all multiplat games, with perhaps the exception of one (Tomb Raider) that kind of a frame rate disparity is meaningful, but none of the rest is. It's all just internet c***-measuring of the worst kind, and something gamers should strive to avoid.
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I never said it was garbage? I said it was a mess with it being unoptimised and probably should have been delayed for a good few months, we know about framerate,screen tearing and glitches before release. And I stated those two games because they will most likely be two of the best games this year with GTA V being the best. People should not reward Ubisoft for putting out a buggy and unfinished game and those microstransactions just sour it even more. And thought I prefer the PS4 I have never shat on the Xbox One, I always try to be impartial. My issue simply stems from the game being unfinished. This was probably more suited to the Unity thread in general.
 
I would love to see Astrograd right now. I bet he is drinking rum, wearing nothing but underpants and staggering around gleefully like Jack Sparrow.
 
DriedMangoes said:
That is a load of bull and you know it. I don't see any other open world games struggling: Watch Dogs, Mordor, Infamous, GTA V, Far Cry 4, DA: I says hello. This is probably more an issue with Ubisoft's optimization (or lack thereof) of the game. Hope to hear more news in the face-off article or when Ubisoft addresses this issue.
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None of those games you mention approach AC in terms of number of AI's on screen at once, though.
 
DriedMangoes said:
Yes, I know. But the fact that people are experiencing other bugs like random crowd pop-ins, face disfiguring, performance issues tells you the game is not ready for launch. I mean, that's what QA is for, right? The game seems to have a lot of bugs regardless of the AI.
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thats different. a bug is not related to performance drops here, you can watch the vid and see heavy scenes straining the consoles and then the fps dips. Its apparent. Bugs can be anything, menu glitches whatever, pop ins, etc.

however they could easily patch it and improve it, and DF's speculation could be wrong
 
Flynn said:
None of those games you mention approach AC in terms of number of AI's on screen at once, though.
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An extra 150mhz won't make a big difference, especially 5 FPS difference. Just seems to be a case of poor optimization.
 
timmy-boy said:
I never said it was garbage? I said it was a mess with it being unoptimised and probably should have been delayed for a good few months, we know about framerate,screen tearing and glitches before release. And I stated those two games because they will most likely be two of the best games this year with GTA V being the best. People should not reward Ubisoft for putting out a buggy and unfinished game and those microstransactions just sour it even more. And thought I prefer the PS4 I have never shat on the Xbox One, I always try to be impartial. My issue simply stems from the game being unfinished. This was probably more suited to the Unity thread in general.
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By whose standards is it unfinished? It's gorgeous, completable, fun, interesting, and in many ways the best Assassin's Creed to ever exist. It has bugs, but that's to be expected with a game of that level of scope and sophistication, especially when moving to a new engine.

An unfinished game is Gran Turismo on PS2. I think it was Gran Turismo 2 which was litterally impossible to complete to 100%. That was an unfinished game.

AC:U is a finished game. It just might need a few patches to address any remaining issues which meaningfully impede gamers.

GTA V is a game I'm not at all interested in. I vastly prefer Assassin's Creed, and always have since the release of the franchise.
 
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