Has Sony ever not delivered on good exclusives for their consoles ?

Johnmiceter said:
I think every company like Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony do this, but I reckon Sony do it the least.

If you look at Nintendo games, they are already making HD remakes on the WiiU, and they just always make, Pokemon, Mario Kart, any sort of Mario game really. What was the last lot of IP's Nintendo made ? I'm not sure as I haven't owned a nintendo for a while, but I don't think they make that many new IP's.

Microsoft, I know a bit about them since I have only owned a XBox since 2002, they seem to pick a IP and just keep remaking it. ON the 360 that I can remember: Halo 3, Halo 4, Halo ODST, Halo Wars, (there was another Halo Can't think of it), then FOZA 2, FORZA 3, FORZA 4 FORZA HORIZON, Fable 2, Fable 3, Fable Journey. Gears 1, Gears 2, Gears 3, Gears of war Juggernaught (or something like that, never played it)

Sony made Uncharted 1, 2 and 3, God of war trilogy, Asension and GOW 3, Grand turismo 5 and 6, KIllzone 1, 2 3.

Am I missing any other franchises from Sony they make a lot of ? I'm not trying to say Sony don't keep remaking thier franchises but seems to me they do it the least out of the big 3 companies and make more new IP's then any of the Big 3 ?
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Resistance i believe has five games for Sony. Gran Turismo would have a bunch. For me i would say Nintendo is easily the leader in the sequel business. Whether Sony or MS is second, wouldn't be by much in my opinion. Both systems just have some popular franchises they tend to milk.
 
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I personally think their PS2 exclusives are leagues better than the PS3 exclusives. I never got the gist of the Uncharted series after the first; Resistance felt like a mess in terms of multiplayer and campaign; the Ratchet games on the PS3 didn't really shine like the PS2 ones; Infamous 1 & 2 never felt fun for me; Killzone was fun for a few weeks.

This is all my opinion really.
 
Squiggs said:
I personally think their PS2 exclusives are leagues better than the PS3 exclusives. I never got the gist of the Uncharted series after the first; Resistance felt like a mess in terms of multiplayer and campaign; the Ratchet games on the PS3 didn't really shine like the PS2 ones; Infamous 1 & 2 never felt fun for me; Killzone was fun for a few weeks.

This is all my opinion really.
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What did they have on PS2 that was made from them as I never played it but heard it had a fair few good games on it. But probably most of them weren't made by Sony I'm guessing then ?
 
Johnmiceter said:
What did they have on PS2 that was made from them as I never played it but heard it had a fair few good games on it. But probably most of them weren't made by Sony I'm guessing then ?
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Well, the exclusives that really got to me on the PS2 were:

The Jak and Daxter games
The Sly Cooper games
Shadow of The Colossus
Ico
Ape Escape games
Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2
Onimusha 2

And others that are on the tip of the tongue but I can't seem to remember. This s***e was years ago. I was disappointed in the Ps3 exclusives at launch. The games for the PS3 that really got my approval were MGS4, TLOU (despite its numerous flaws, there was something special in it) Sly Cooper 4, Demon's Souls, Malicious, and I liked the Beyond: Two Souls demo so I might buy it or continue to stare at it while my roommate plays.

Made by their own very studios I have no clue which were. I assumed all the exclusives were made by them?
 
I don't know much about Sony's exclusives. I know Uncharted and Journey are amazing. But one game I spotted is that Knack game. If Cerny is trying revitalize Crash Bandicoot, he's going about it the wrong way. I don't approve of the game thus far from what I've seen.
 
What ever happened to Onimusha ? also instead of trying to reviatalize Crash, why don't they just buy the IP off Activision since they aren't doing anything with it and Crash is a well known Sony brand from back in the day and would be a great mascott for them to have in the future.

It puzzles me why they don't just buy it off them unless they are asking an unrealistic amount of money for it. A launch Crash Bandicoot game for PS4 would have been really good instead of Knack.:smash:
 
Onimusha went where Dino Crisis went.

Here's hoping Sony decides to make a Legend of Dragoon 2 on even if it's a small budget game.
 
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Johnmiceter said:
I think every company like Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony do this, but I reckon Sony do it the least.

If you look at Nintendo games, they are already making HD remakes on the WiiU, and they just always make, Pokemon, Mario Kart, any sort of Mario game really. What was the last lot of IP's Nintendo made ? I'm not sure as I haven't owned a nintendo for a while, but I don't think they make that many new IP's.

Microsoft, I know a bit about them since I have only owned a XBox since 2002, they seem to pick a IP and just keep remaking it. ON the 360 that I can remember: Halo 3, Halo 4, Halo ODST, Halo Wars, (there was another Halo Can't think of it), then FOZA 2, FORZA 3, FORZA 4 FORZA HORIZON, Fable 2, Fable 3, Fable Journey. Gears 1, Gears 2, Gears 3, Gears of war Juggernaught (or something like that, never played it)

Sony made Uncharted 1, 2 and 3, God of war trilogy, Asension and GOW 3, Grand turismo 5 and 6, KIllzone 1, 2 3.

Am I missing any other franchises from SOny they make a lot of ? I'm not trying to say Sony don't keep remaking thier franchises but seems to me they do it the least out of the big 3 companies and make more new IP's then any of the Big 3 ?
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Sony milk a lot,

Since the current gen started,

5 Resistance games
5 MotorStorm games
A lot of Ratchet & Clank
4 Killzones
4 Uncharted's
5 God of War titles [including the HD remake]
4 GT
5 LBP games to name a few.

Also worth pointing out Gears is still Epic rather than MS who also did a lot of their publishing in later years with XBLA games for new IP's.

Both have IP's they are ignoring that I wish they would show some love.
 
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If you only gonna list the franchises, everyone milks alot. :-/
Tokyo Jungle, Rain, Puppeteer, Beyond 2 souls, Last of Us, are new entries this year - amongst both old and new title Sony seems to keep a pretty decent even 50/50 mix, wich is rather good for a publisher.

So there are loads of new IP's, especially since you also count handheld games amongst the franchises, you should also concider new IP's there.
Then the new IP list get's huge..
 
Yeah I've mentioned that a few times but for some reason some don't call Sony out on it.

And again as said before if an ip sells well publisher will make more of them. If people don't like it the simple answer is to not buy them. For instance I've not bought a COD in years but I'm not going to moan than they keep making them.

But if you look at MS and Sony they have bought many new IPs out this gen be it retail, digital or handheld.
 
MS seems to bring its new IPs out early in the generation, and so far at least seems to rely on sequels more predominantly as the generations go on. Sony definitely seems to do a better job with late-in-generation new IP.
 
Depends on how you look at it this gen with MS as they bought out a good number of new IPs to go with Kinect. But they haven't released a big budget controller title in a few years other than Halo 4 while Sony have released TLoU and I think they released a few big new ips on PS2 around the time the PS3 came out?
 
This is why consoles are adding other features and content, imho. I don't care what exclusives are released for either company, I usually ween off of whatever poison I'm playing simply because other things take precedence over just gaming and it isn't holding my interest. Not to mention I get bored of mostly every game I purchase fairly quickly. Once that sets in, I go back to revisit in two hour sessions, once every two to three weeks or so.

For example, I love GTAV but I'm already somewhat bored of it. I've only finished about 15% since it released. The last game I can remember playing full throttle was Tomb Raider, in which to me was a very good game. I treat great books the same way. Overall I think this contributes to why I prefer an Xbox over the Playstation. It's something that contributes to my life style--fits in well with the way I consume games, movies, music, television and so on. The good news is that I don't believe gaming will completely evaporate in my life, hence why I'm happy about the current direction and vision for gaming/entertainment consoles; they fit in and mature as my life and career needs, change with me.
 
Why dont you give gaming a break for a few months and see how you go. If you stop completely for a while and take up something else, maybe you will be more excited to play games again.

I did this for a few years, concentrated on sport and work and when I bought a new console I felt like a little kid again.
 
Thank god
The Wolf King said:
Sony milk a lot,

Since the current gen started,

5 Resistance games
5 MotorStorm games
A lot of Ratchet & Clank
4 Killzones
4 Uncharted's
5 God of War titles [including the HD remake]
4 GT
5 LBP games to name a few.

Also worth pointing out Gears is still Epic rather than MS who also did a lot of their publishing in later years with XBLA games for new IP's.

Both have IP's they are ignoring that I wish they would show some love.
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As opposed to

5 Fable games
4 Forza games
6 Halo games
4 Gears of War games

You milk your IPs that print money, that's kinda how it works. Companies will stop milking when gamers stop buying.
 
As I said ..

And again as said before if an ip sells well publisher will make more of them.
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:p

Also Gears still counts as an Epic IP
 
Almost all gamers who complain about "milking" lap up someone else's milk readily.

For instance, I noticed a pattern.. many of those people are Nintendo fans, the absolute epic king of milking not only IP's but gameplay styles that are 30 years old.

I find it to be a rather tired discussion. If a series isn't doing it for me I don't buy every sequel.. even if every game ever was a sequel from here on out there are enough series to switch between out there that I'd never get bored of gaming, and the majority of series DO in fact change or evolve gameplay despite how people claim they don't.

Some people are truly consistent and aren't hypocritical about it. Just don't know what to tell those people.. products that are successful get sequels.. that isn't limited to gaming or even media industries. It's sort of a fruitless desire to expect or want companies to always be trying new things.
 
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BunzHoles said:
For instance, I noticed a pattern.. many of those people are Nintendo fans, the absolute epic king of milking not only IP's but gameplay styles that are 30 years old.
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I'd forgive them for all of that if they'd just re-theme Mario Kart around Metroid, and maybe call it "Samus' Ball Riding".
 
As a whole, Sony releases lots of good exclusives, but their launches and first year games are usually lousy/mediocre compared to many competing systems. But after a few years, they pick up steam.
 
Intellivision said:
As a whole, Sony releases lots of good exclusives, but their launches and first year games are usually lousy/mediocre compared to many competing systems. But after a few years, they pick up steam.
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I wonder why they keep doing this ? You would think they would have learned by now after this being their 4th console now. Is it because thier current machine is still out and they like to support it as much as the can so they continue to make games for that even though their next gen is out too ?

Microsoft doesn't do this at all, once their next system is announced they basically stop making forst party games for it right away and put them onto next gen consoles. If Sony ever did this, they would have a really strong launch line up, but they don't for some reason.
 
On the other hand, people are still loving the PS3 because they didn't do that -- they kept feeding it new games. MS, otoh, stopped offering something new years ago. It's a trade-off: early vs. late. If I were a Sony buyer, I'd be more confident that they would support the platform long into its old age. If I were buying X1, I'm figuring MS will pile on the support for the first two-thirds of its life then back out during the last third. I can't blame them. It's a good business strategy. As a gamer, though, I prefer the way Sony does it.
 
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Johnmiceter said:
I wonder why they keep doing this ? You would think they would have learned by now after this being their 4th console now. Is it because thier current machine is still out and they like to support it as much as the can so they continue to make games for that even though their next gen is out too ?
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I wonder if it has something to do with their dev cycles? Just as an example, Turn 10 pushes out a new Forza every two years like clockwork, so getting them to come out with a version for the launch of a new console isn't difficult, while DP puts out a new GT much less frequently. Between that and maybe just different aims for the companies as a whole -- MS seems more about trying to give you compelling reasons to put down the money for the console now, with early exclusives and making sure that you know Halo and Titanfall are coming in the first year or so after launch. Sony's more casual about it - they're on the "if you buy our console, we'll make sure you value it down the road". Both approaches are valid, and I think both companies can learn from the other on this.
 
Sony started off slow but they have more new IP's than any console maker this gen. A lot of them didn't get mentioned including ModNation Racers and Blood Siren,

Mercylack said:
Exclusives that sucked were Haze and Dragons Lair
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Dragon Lair is a great game if you download he patch off psn. You can play the controls normally
 
hrudey said:
I wonder if it has something to do with their dev cycles? Just as an example, Turn 10 pushes out a new Forza every two years like clockwork, so getting them to come out with a version for the launch of a new console isn't difficult, while DP puts out a new GT much less frequently. Between that and maybe just different aims for the companies as a whole -- MS seems more about trying to give you compelling reasons to put down the money for the console now, with early exclusives and making sure that you know Halo and Titanfall are coming in the first year or so after launch. Sony's more casual about it - they're on the "if you buy our console, we'll make sure you value it down the road". Both approaches are valid, and I think both companies can learn from the other on this.
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Yeah in the past MS has always delivered exclusives early on in the COnsoles life, say for the first half of the console, and after that, they slow down and rely on 3rd party support. And when it's closer to their next cosnoles like , like the last 1-2 years, there aren't many at all. And as soon as they announce their new cosnole, nothing.

I would of thought Sony could of made GT6 for PS4 though since they already gave PS3 users a great exclusive like THE LAST OF US, they could of at least evened it out a bit and given a good exclusive to PS4 at launch instead. No need to make so many good exclsuives at the end of the PS3's life.
 
Bit hard to fully judge MS in that sense. Remember the XBox wasn't out very long and it was never a money maker plus due to the falling out they killed it quick. Also with this gen you cant ignore Kinect[Just like you cant ignore Move]. Sure not every one liked it but that's where the new IP's from MS came in the last couple years with at least 8 new retail IP's.

I also see some of the blame having to go to Dom who started to focus on other areas so it will be interesting to see how they go next gen under new management and with Harrison in the mix.

Also worth pointing out not all Sony IP's are first party including the latest release Beyond Two Souls. Both use 3rd party studios for games but I'm not sure why that's seen as a problem for some? The games get made and it gives a smaller dev work.
 
Anderson said:
On the other hand, people are still loving the PS3 because they didn't do that -- they kept feeding it new games. MS, otoh, stopped offering something new years ago. It's a trade-off: early vs. late. If I were a Sony buyer, I'd be more confident that they would support the platform long into its old age. If I were buying X1, I'm figuring MS will pile on the support for the first two-thirds of its life then back out during the last third. I can't blame them. It's a good business strategy. As a gamer, though, I prefer the way Sony does it.
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Totally agree and I personally was done with MS 1st parties years ago with Halo 4 being the only hope for them left on the 360 IMO but that was a huge letdown.

The 1st 5 years or so MS was on fire with 1st party offerings on the 360 and the whole life of the OG Xbox IMO.
 
Viktor said:
All I want is a new Syphon Filter. Is that too much to ask?
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That would be good, but the SF franchise isn't known well enough to revive.

A new Colony Wars would great too, but the same fate there too.
 
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