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Don't forget Insomniac Games, Sucker Punch, Santa Monica Studios, From Software, Polyphony Digital etc.

Probably more new studios that will develop exclusives for the PS5 this gen, can't wait to see them.
True, but not all of this are first party or were until the end of last gen. Note did most developed at least three titles. I still feel three titles under any studios belt on a console will truly show what a dev can do, the last of us easily looked a generation ahead of uncharted.

again, true, can’t wait to see what new things may come, granted if they peak my interest.

like the thought of ff being exclusive for who knows how long I could care less. But if they were to make a game where it was Hyrule warriors but with ff cast I’d probably be all over it…
 
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Sure, gameplay is different. But as far as visuals. There is no comparision. Details of characters, details on environment, the lighting, the art style. the water. I can go on & on.

But 343 has E3 to prove me wrong, & I am happy to be wrong. I feel worry for Halo at the moment.
The few new screenshots (from 2 months ago) I seen of Halo Infinite are underwhelming. They do not even look better than the old Hroizon game IMO.


Does these Screenshots look impressive for a next gen game, let alone supose most expensive game ever with 500 million estimated caost & 6 years in dev. Looks like something that can be done with last gen hardware.
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Sure, gameplay is different. But as far as visuals. There is no comparision. Details of characters, details on environment, the lighting, the art style. the water. I can go on & on.

But 343 has E3 to prove me wrong, & I am happy to be wrong. I feel worry for Halo at the moment.
The few new screenshots (from 2 months ago) I seen of Halo Infinite are underwhelming. They do not even look better than the old Hroizon game IMO.


Does these Screenshots look impressive for a next gen game, let alone supose most expensive game ever with 500 million estimated caost & 6 years in dev. Looks like something that can be done with last gen hardware.
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Yikes
 
The Halo screenshots look fine. We also know MS does backwards compatibility better. Ray tracing will be added in. Until the PS5 gets a native enhanced edition then all anyone should expect is the PS4 pro version with some better frames down the line.
 
The Halo screenshots look fine. We also know MS does backwards compatibility better. Ray tracing will be added in. Until the PS5 gets a native enhanced edition then all anyone should expect is the PS4 pro version with some better frames down the line.
But Halo need to be more than "Fine". Its a flagship game & one if not the most expensive game ever made.

Sony fans expect every PS5 first party exclusive to have exceptional visuals on top of critical acclaimed.

if Xbox fans are happy with "fine", then I guess they get fine games I guess.
 
Horizon is not a next gen game. It is a flagship game though and I’m not in awe of what I’m seeing. Seems like you have higher opinion of it.
 
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Horizon is not a next gen game. It is a flagship game though and I’m not in awe of what I’m seeing. Seems like you have higher opinion of it.
I have high expectation of both Horizon, & halo. Halo is NOT meeting that expectation so far, as far as visuals. But like I said, I hope to be proven wrong.
 
Horizon has a more limited scope. It should look better graphically as a result. There is a lot less to build. Meanwhile 343 has almost an impossible task very few games ever pull off. Great campaign, great multiplayer, great community tools and great on-going support for years.
 
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They’re both getting my money, on whatever collectors/legendary edition they release….I’ll most likely finish halos campaign first though, and if BotW 2 is released near horizons launch, that may just steal me away from any game

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f***ing xbot loser


LOL what? Another LED is a raving pony. You can tell by his ridiculous comment 😂

Sure, gameplay is different. But as far as visuals. There is no comparision. Details of characters, details on environment, the lighting, the art style. the water. I can go on & on.

But 343 has E3 to prove me wrong, & I am happy to be wrong. I feel worry for Halo at the moment.
The few new screenshots (from 2 months ago) I seen of Halo Infinite are underwhelming. They do not even look better than the old Hroizon game IMO.


Does these Screenshots look impressive for a next gen game, let alone supose most expensive game ever with 500 million estimated caost & 6 years in dev. Looks like something that can be done with last gen hardware.
halo-infinite-84.jpg

halo-infinite.jpg
Those are beautiful 🤩
 
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LOL what? Another LED is a raving pony. You can tell by his ridiculous comment 😂


Those are beautiful 🤩
I loved the “hard sci-fi” look 343 did with four, it looked closer to what bungie was going for with their halo Mac demo. Infinite is a nice in-between og halo, halo wars 2 and four.
 
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LOL what? Another LED is a raving pony. You can tell by his ridiculous comment 😂


Those are beautiful 🤩
He maybe a Pony, & his "gabage" remarks is over sensational, but the core view is echo by many; Halo Infinite (suppose most expensive game ever, super Big S stuido, suppsoe has top talents, on suppose most powerful console) looks bad compare to Forbidden West.

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Gureilla game- Employee 350+
343 studio 750+ (2020)

500million budget (rumored) making it most expensive game ever.

If I am a major shareholder, I will be asking where did the money goes, & why is the visuals inferior to smaller lower budget compeitions
https://www.gfinityesports.com/halo...red-to-be-the-most-expensive-video-game-ever/

These are screenshot from theHnter Call of thw wild, released in 2017 by studio of about 100 employee (Expansive Worlds). Look at the quality of lightings & details of the environment compare to NEXT GEN 1/2billion budget Halo.....

AM I being harsh. I am, but with budget of 1/2 billion, I expect mind blowing industrial leading visuals.
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He maybe a Pony, & his "gabage" remarks is over sensational, but the core view is echo by many; Halo Infinite (suppose most expensive game ever, super Big S stuido, suppsoe has top talents, on suppose most powerful console) looks bad compare to Forbidden West.

Under Wiki
Gureilla game- Employee 350+
343 studio 750+ (2020)

500million budget (rumored) making it most expensive game ever.

If I am a major shareholder, I will be asking where did the money goes, & why is the visuals inferior to smaller lower budget compeitions
https://www.gfinityesports.com/halo...red-to-be-the-most-expensive-video-game-ever/

🤔 so you’re saying ninja theory should make the next mainline halo game?
 
He maybe a Pony, & his "gabage" remarks is over sensational, but the core view is echo by many; Halo Infinite (suppose most expensive game ever, super Big S stuido, suppsoe has top talents, on suppose most powerful console) looks bad compare to Forbidden West.

Under Wiki
Gureilla game- Employee 350+
343 studio 750+ (2020)

500million budget (rumored) making it most expensive game ever.

If I am a major shareholder, I will be asking where did the money goes, & why is the visuals inferior to smaller lower budget compeitions
https://www.gfinityesports.com/halo...red-to-be-the-most-expensive-video-game-ever/
I would also ask where is Horizons 120fps. Ask where Horizons extensive multiplayer is. Ask where Horizons Forge map making tools are. I would ask where Horizons lack of AI and vehicles on screen are compared to Halo. I would ask where Horizons community tournament tools are.

Then more importantly I would ask why would graphics matter if a game that wasn’t as pretty happens to be substantially more fun to play 💁‍♂️
 
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I would also ask where is Horizons 120fps. Ask where Horizons extensive multiplayer is. Ask where Horizons Forge map making tools are. I would ask where Horizons lack of AI and vehicles on screen are compared to Halo. I would ask where Horizons community tournament tools are.

Then more importantly I would ask why would graphics matter if a game that wasn’t as pretty happens to be substantially more fun to play 💁‍♂️
The difference between me & apologists is, I do not delude myself with excuses. There are fair arguments for sure, but I have not seen a complying one so far.

A game looking good & playing well are NOT mutually exclusive. People who made the visuals are separate from people doing gameplay. They are not one person studio. The multiplyer, forege etc can be easily answered with 343 is more than double the size of Gurilla games. AI are CPU linked & doesn't really tax GPU. I can go on, but all I seen are excuses why Halo look worse. How about demanding 343 matching or exceed visuals from Sony exclusives.



The most funny part of all these exchange is. I am NOT the biggest Halo or XBOX fan, yet I seems to WANT MORE & more passionate about halo Infiniate being the Top dog than big fans!!!!
 
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The difference between me & apologists is, I do not delude myself with excuses.

A game looking good & playing well are NOT mutually exclusive. People who made the visuals are separate from people doing gameplay. They are not one person studio. The multiplyer, forege etc can be easily answered with 343 is more than double the size of Gurilla games.



The most funny part of all these exchange is. I am NOT the biggest Halo or XBOX fan, yet I seems to WANT MORE & demand more than big fans!!!!
I want a splinter team from GG go and make a separate multiplayer game…it doesn’t have to be horizon or killzone, just something fun and pretty ;) that could be Sony’s big investment with them wanting more service games, if they make it f2p.

Oh maybe one where it incorporates leads from all their owned IPs, or would that be better suited for insomniac?
 
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The difference between me & apologists is, I do not delude myself with excuses. There are fair arguments for sure, but I have not seen a complying one so far.

A game looking good & playing well are NOT mutually exclusive. People who made the visuals are separate from people doing gameplay. They are not one person studio. The multiplyer, forege etc can be easily answered with 343 is more than double the size of Gurilla games. AI are CPU linked & doesn't really tax GPU. I can go on, but all I seen are excuses why Halo look worse. How about demanding 343 matching or exceed visuals from Sony exclusives.



The most funny part of all these exchange is. I am NOT the biggest Halo or XBOX fan, yet I seems to WANT MORE & more passionate about halo Infiniate being the Top dog than big fans!!!!
For me, my priority is game play beyond all else. The Last of Us 2 looks amazing but I would play through Nier Replicant (which looks like ass in comparison) 10 times to barely want to finish TLOU.

I am almost done with Godfall but I couldn’t bring myself to spend more than an hour or two in HZD.

My point is that I play game play not graphics. I love games that I enjoy.

I don’t need excuses but I can use common sense. Both Horizon 2 and Infinite are two different things including performance and graphics.

Flight Simulator is probably the best looking game this gen but the gameplay isn’t gonna be the best.
 
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are grappling hooks the new “must have gameplay mechanic” thing to do now? Will Mario, souls-like and JRPGs have them now?
They are nothing new. But because Halo is one of the biggest esports games out there, it’s really a focus for competitive online games.
 
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