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Exactly. Do people think XBox gamepass sub is so cheap is from the Goodness of their heart? Once they amanage to gain majority & god forbid monopoly, thier tail will come out. MS doesn't exactly has a good reputation for fair market competition.

The streamers may predominantly play on PC but many of their viewers play on console. The streamers will continue to play CoD and their viewers will want to do the same so they’ll just migrate to the platforms it’s on. If MS want to lead the gaming industry which I’m sure they do, then keeping CoD Xbox/PC exclusive will certainly go a long way in helping them achieve that. MS would definitely prefer to poach 5 million PS gamers to their platform buying games and subbing to game pass at 120/180 a year than settling for a one off 30% publishers fee on CoD.
 
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Dramatically? they sold over 116 million PS4's and the biggest COD was 14 million on PS4, the vast majority of PlayStation owners don't play COD. If you took away a PS4 for every copy of the highest selling COD game you'd still have nearly a 2-1 sales advantage over the xbox one vs the over 2-1 they have now.

Obviously, Sony won't want to lose COD and it would be terrible for consumers if MS just keeps buying up everyone, but I think some are overestimating what COD is, yes it's a huge franchise but it's only one of many. Most of the rest of the titles that come with this purchase are not going to impact Sony in any meaningful way if they go exclusive.

You make out like every one of those PS4’s sold are PS gamers. Many of those PS4’s were bought by Xbox players like myself who hardly used them. Not to mention that we’re now in a new generation where many millions will be looking to upgrade their console in the near future. I can guarantee there will be millions of CoD PS gamers who will buy an Xbox if that’s the only console they can play it on. It would benefit MS more financially to entice let’s say 5 million ex PS gamers across to Xbox buying games on Xbox and subbing to Gamepass than taking a 30% publisher’s fee from 10 million PS CoD gamers.
 
This still just pushes more consolidation. People that celebrate this can't be bothered by any negative outcomes in the future including Tencent buying more.

There is no reason to assume they won't follow what they did with Bethesda. Other than dealing with contracts in the short term.

I'm not saying it is a good thing, consolidation is inevitable. Whether or not I rant about it on a small messageboard is irrelevant.

What people don't like is MS and that's fine, but it is comical the amount of venom and hate people have for them.
 
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Serious question, with all the talk about CoD. DO people think its the biggest Franchise under Activation/Blizzard/King?
 
I'm not saying it is a good thing, consolidation is inevitable. Whether or not I rant about it on a small messageboard is irrelevant.

What people don't like is MS and that's fine, but it is comical the amount of venom and hate people have for them.
Lots of peoples opinions are swayed by console wars. No question about that. People should hate this because its Microsoft just like people shouldn't love it because its Microsoft but that is the way it is.
 
With animations done in Flash.
Sorry, trusted Windows Phone apps require the best Microsoft technologies, and so they'd use Silverlight over Flash (and besides, they can then port it to the Zune quickly enough that it'll make their Mixer reveal show).
 
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Serious question, with all the talk about CoD. DO people think its the biggest Franchise under Activation/Blizzard/King?
It was their highest grossing in 2020. Candy Crush was $275,000,000 less as their second highest grossing title.
 
Lots of peoples opinions are swayed by console wars. No question about that. People should hate this because its Microsoft just like people shouldn't love it because its Microsoft but that is the way it is.

People think that their goal is to sell hardware, and that's where the disconnect comes in, no matter how many times they say otherwise. People can't think past the endless threads of "how many units did they ship in Japan last month". They absolutely want to make sure enough Xbox units get out there, but if they were going to go full exclusive to sell hardware, they would not put everything on PC.

Any sour PS fan out there could just buy a PC and tell MS to go to heck. That's why it makes no sense for MS to push. They'll be able to offer every COD campaign and game on Game Pass, and that will sell them a ton without needing any exclusivity.

I don't hate it because it isn't a bad thing for gaming. I sincerely hopes Sony scoops up a big studio. I'd love to see Ubisoft get straightened around. Keep Facebook, Google, Tencent and Amazon out for as long as possible. Once those companies take over (and they ultimately will) that's when things go to hell.
 
Your fanboyish is so bad, that you did not bother to check basic facts. Like the fact I am not a Playstation fanboy. My PS4 has collect dust, & the last game I played on it was like 1.5-2 years ago,
calm down chill out GIF
 
People think that their goal is to sell hardware, and that's where the disconnect comes in, no matter how many times they say otherwise. People can't think past the endless threads of "how many units did they ship in Japan last month". They absolutely want to make sure enough Xbox units get out there, but if they were going to go full exclusive to sell hardware, they would not put everything on PC.

Any sour PS fan out there could just buy a PC and tell MS to go to heck. That's why it makes no sense for MS to push. They'll be able to offer every COD campaign and game on Game Pass, and that will sell them a ton without needing any exclusivity.

I don't hate it because it isn't a bad thing for gaming. I sincerely hopes Sony scoops up a big studio. I'd love to see Ubisoft get straightened around. Keep Facebook, Google, Tencent and Amazon out for as long as possible. Once those companies take over (and they ultimately will) that's when things go to hell.
Its bad for gaming. Gamepass could be on PS5 and Switch tomorrow and the consolidation is still bad for gaming. The disconnect comes from when people say its bad for gaming people think it that means Microsoft is bad for doing it.
 
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People think that their goal is to sell hardware
People DON't think their goal is ONLY to sell hardware!!!!! But it will be crazy to even think selling hardware isn't an important goal, as selling hardware is an integral part (not the only obviously )of expanding their gaming customer base to sell gamepass & games.

Its an educational guess most subbers to gamepass have an Xbox. More Xbox console sales, more gamepass subbers.
 
Serious question, with all the talk about CoD. DO people think its the biggest Franchise under Activation/Blizzard/King?
Interms of console and PC, yes, I would think so. No idea how popular WoW is today.

No clue how popular their mobile games are because who here really cares about that?
 
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Its bad for gaming. Gamepass could be on PS5 and Switch tomorrow and the consolidation is still bad for gaming. The disconnect comes from when people say its bad for gaming people think it that means Microsoft is bad for doing it.

It is actually perfectly ok to not like a company and root against them. It is the people who twist themselves in knots trying to pretend to be objective. Why bother?

I see the anti-MS bias in every level of the IT industry. I've seen large companies ignore MS products they already own and buying competitors products without even giving the MS stuff an evaluation. (all these people run a Macbook by the way).

I hate certain companies. If Apple bought Xbox tomorrow I would sell mine on eBay for retail price asap. Everyone has biases. As long as it isn't against people, have at it.
 
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I play almost exclusively on PC. If someone call me a PC fanboy, at least I can digest, compare to completely bogus claim I am a PS4 fanboy, even though I just prefer PC platform, & prefer to be called just a gamer.

In case you confuse me with someone else. Also I am not sunset.
 
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I never said there would be no exclusives, and they are not making all Bethesda games exclusives. They are making a brand new IP exclusive that has never been on any platform yet. That's a long way from pulling COD off PS.

What's comical is people act like Activision is some great company. The absolute worst case is that MS is no better, and chances are they improve.

It is hilarious what gamers turn a blind eye to. Warzone is a total, buggy mess. They do this same dump of the new game into WZ every year and every year it breaks the game for months. They've snuck pay to win transactions into the game multiple times and keep "apologizing" for it. (you can buy guns that are cosmetic but also have better stats than what you can earn in game).

They are finally investing in anti-cheat, while ignoring multiple pro players being caught cheating and countless money tournaments having cheaters participate.

You barely hear the gaming world complain about any of this though. Nobody can fathom that maybe, just maybe, MS will actually improve things (which would not be hard to do given the current state).

Quality isn't the thing we're talking about though. Exclusivity of content is. I'd be willing to put money on it that CoD campaign and MP will go to Xbox only. Warzone will multi plat. I'm not endorsing the idea and personally I think the whole 'exclusive content' s***e is terrible for the industry but this is what is going to happen.
 
Its bad for gaming. Gamepass could be on PS5 and Switch tomorrow and the consolidation is still bad for gaming. The disconnect comes from when people say its bad for gaming people think it that means Microsoft is bad for doing it.
I'm not sure the consolidation is bad. Look at where we are headed. Gamepass, PS Now, EA Play, EA Play Pro, Ubisoft plus, Stadia, Netflix,etc. Already too many sub services and they will only grow. Consolidation could be the best thing for consumers.
 
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I play almost exclusively on PC. If someone call me a PC fanboy, at least I can digest, compare to completely bogus claim I am a PS4 fanboy, even though I just prefer PC platform, & prefer to be called just a gamer.

In case you confuse me with someone else. Also I am not sunset.
No, I remember you, you love playstation and Fortnite.
 
It is actually perfectly ok to not like a company and root against them. It is the people who twist themselves in knots trying to pretend to be objective. Why bother?

I see the anti-MS bias in every level of the IT industry. I've seen large companies ignore MS products they already own and buying competitors products without even giving the MS stuff an evaluation. (all these people run a Macbook by the way).

I hate certain companies. If Apple bought Xbox tomorrow I would sell mine on eBay for retail price asap. Everyone has biases. As long as it isn't against people, have at it.
I don't have biases towards companies. Couldn't careless about the maker, my only concern is product and service quality.

If you do the same thing then why are you constantly crying about anti MS bias? Bit hypocritical don't you think.
 
It is actually perfectly ok to not like a company and root against them. It is the people who twist themselves in knots trying to pretend to be objective. Why bother?

I see the anti-MS bias in every level of the IT industry. I've seen large companies ignore MS products they already own and buying competitors products without even giving the MS stuff an evaluation. (all these people run a Macbook by the way).

I hate certain companies. If Apple bought Xbox tomorrow I would sell mine on eBay for retail price asap. Everyone has biases. As long as it isn't against people, have at it.
I don't have a problem with saying better company X than company Y. But "could be worse" still doesn't mean its necessarily good.

I'm not sure the consolidation is bad. Look at where we are headed. Gamepass, PS Now, EA Play, EA Play Pro, Ubisoft plus, Stadia, Netflix,etc. Already too many sub services and they will only grow. Consolidation could be the best thing for consumers.
Well that is a lot of services nobody cares about hypothetically if it became about subscriptions you still want competition. None of those would really be competition for gamepass if it blew up like it could.
 
Quality isn't the thing we're talking about though. Exclusivity of content is. I'd be willing to put money on it that CoD campaign and MP will go to Xbox only. Warzone will multi plat. I'm not endorsing the idea and personally I think the whole 'exclusive content' s***e is terrible for the industry but this is what is going to happen.

That wouldn't even make sense. MP and Warzone are still tightly integrated (only way to practically level up your guns for one thing). The battle passes still mesh together as well as the cosmetics.

You'll see Xbox get the same stuff that Sony has been getting for years. Extra XP boosts and such (which are annoying but far from industry breaking).

If MS takes COD exclusive, I'll call them out on it. I just don't think it will happen. MS isn't going to win people over that way, and they know it. They've tried the heavy handed stuff in past gens and we all know how that turned out for them.

As I said too, if I was a salty PS fan, I'd just buy a PC, because there really is no exclusivity anymore. (this is also why it is not a monopoly). If they were trying to sell every Xbox they could, they would not put all their big "exclusives" out on PC.
 
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I don't have a problem with saying better company X than company Y. But "could be worse" still doesn't mean its necessarily good.


Well that is a lot of services nobody cares about hypothetically if it became about subscriptions you still want competition. None of those would really be competition for gamepass if it blew up like it could.
Competition yes, but we don't want 100 sub based services. That isn't good.

Consolidation doesn't prevent competition.
 
Competition yes, but we don't want 100 sub based services. That isn't good.

Consolidation doesn't prevent competition.
If you want these smaller serviced to combine into game pass size equivalents who would do that? Other than Sony? Do we want Apple/Amazon/Facebook to buy Ubi Soft, EA, and others?
 
If you want these smaller serviced to combine into game pass size equivalents who would do that? Other than Sony? Do we want Apple/Amazon/Facebook to buy Ubi Soft, EA, and others?
What we want is irrelevant.

The future is service based, that seems pretty much inevitable at this point. We need competition, but MS is really the only major player. To get that competition more consolidation has to happen. Sony can't afford it, MS knows this.