I can take out two people within a couple of seconds with the bar , sometimes 3 . 20 rounds is the only drawback, but I understand why It's limited to 20 and am totally fine with it. My kpm with that gun is over 1.40 . It's ridiculous . Starting out with the bar , since I was late to the party I bought the support pack . Lol.. It got me way over a 2.0 kd . After using and mastering all the other lmgs, my kd is still climbing but no where near as fast as it did when using the bar . Heh . Using dmrs now . Just mastered the first one . Love the 3 shots to kill but you need a good side arm for the close quarter engagements .