DF: Sniper Elite 3 Face-Off (PC, PS4, X1)

Status
Not open for further replies.

DriedMangoes

We The North 🦖🍁
Sep 12, 2013
26,472
9,061
3,930
- PS4 almost matches PC IQ, running at ultra settings.
- XB1 has lower resolution artwork and reduced texture filtering and also limited indirect shadowing
- Fluctuating framerate on both consoles
- PS4 closest to delivering 60 fps experience with a 5-10 fps lead over XB1
- XB1 has trouble keeping a consistent framerate when vegetation is on screen
- XB1 suffers a lot from screen tearing
- PC seems to have lower quality "buggy" shadows compared to consoles

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-sniper-elite-3-face-off

The PS4 game matches up closely to the PC release, aside from featuring a lower level of anisotropic filtering (we reckon it's 8x against 16x on the PC) that mildly impacts distant texture sharpness. On the other hand, things appear a little more ropey on Xbox One, with Rebellion making a number of graphical sacrifices, perhaps in order to achieve native 1080p while targeting 60fps. These mainly come down to a reduction in texture filtering and use of lower-resolution artwork deployed upon surfaces on the ground. Indirect shadowing is also limited to screen-space ambient occlusion, while the PS4 and PC appear to utilise a more advanced implementation known as obscurance fields.

In terms of console performance, achieving a similar level of stability is out of the question - both versions feature fluctuating frame-rates that impact upon the overall experience. However, it is the PS4 that comes closest to delivering a 60fps experience, although frame-rate varies wildly from scene to scene.

Here we see similar frame-rates across both consoles, with the PS4 version edging out an occasional 5-10fps lead while remaining solidly v-synced. In comparison, the Xbox One game tears constantly and this generates additional judder and a distinct screen wobble that proves distracting when shooting targets from far away. As we move further into the stage, the differences become more pronounced despite the action shifting into slightly quieter territory, with the PS4 hitting a near-solid 60fps while the Xbox One game trails behind in the mid-40s. [Update: Thanks for the comments, yes, the Xbox One launch day patch adds a v-sync option. It's actually an adaptive v-sync that appears to lock gameplay to 30fps, with occasional tearing when the engine dips below that target. We'll have an updated comparison video later.]

Plants, bushes and a light coating of mist populate the area with alpha-based effects, while draw distances are kept suitably long to allow spotting potential targets and vantage points from far away. In these scenes we see the Xbox One demonstrate frame-rates frequently hovering around the 30fps mark complete with tearing, while the PS4 game manages to maintain a solid lead. At other timesboth consoles stabilise at around 50fps, delivering a smooth experience, although the PS4 does so without any impact to image consistency.

The performance analysis suggests that Rebellion wanted to target 60fps on both platforms but simply wasn't able to closely achieve anywhere near that on the Xbox One without compromising image quality. In which case a choice was made to disable v-sync in order to get the fastest controller response possible and to allow for the higher frame-rate, albeit at the expense of some horrible screen tearing. Consistency metrics are revealing here because we actually see more latency during frame drops on the PS4 due to the strict adherence to v-sync - frames are either rendered at 16.67ms or 33.3ms when frames are dropped - but the poor frame-rate and judder caused by the tearing means that Xbox One never 'feels' more responsive in practice, even though frame-time hovers a lot more closely around the desired 16.67ms mark.

There's also the issue that the analogue sticks on the Xbox One controller simply don't feel as quick to respond as those on the PS4's DualShock 4. It seems like the overall range is spread across more travel - how far the sticks physically move - resulting in a heavier feel that lacks the twitch sensation available on the PS4.

Rebellion's in-house Asura engine proves that it has the potential to bring a 60fps experience to consoles, although the technology doesn't appear to be fully optimised for the task in hand given the large gap between PC, PS4 and Xbox One performance. The PS4 game holds up rather well in approaching a 60fps set-up while featuring almost identical graphical quality to the PC game running with ultra settings enabled. The frame-rate drops are still distracting, but aren't really severe enough to heavily impact upon the gameplay. It's clearly the most dependable console version and easily the one to go for given the choice.

In comparison, the Xbox One version feels like it could have used a little more time in development to better optimise around Microsoft's more complicated hardware set-up. The graphical compromises rob scenes of some fine detail, while performance fails to deliver anywhere near a perceptual 60fps. An obvious solution for achieving closer parity may have been to drop resolution, but in a game so reliant on picking out small detail from a distance, that probably isn't the best idea. There's the sense that Rebellion simply made the best compromises available. By and large, it works. There's still much to enjoy here - it's just that the experience isn't as solid as it is on competing platforms.



badzjzvl.png


rly2plif.png
 
Last edited:
I don't see much of a difference to be honest.
 
I don't see much of a difference to be honest.

It looks virtually identical but the difference here is the game performance where X1 suffers more in FPS drops, lower shadow quality and horrible screen tearing. Watch the video, you can clearly see the difference and how it could impact the experience.

DF suggests a drop in resolution (maybe to 900p) may help better achieve game performance parity but it wouldn't be optimal since the fine details count in this type of game.

"An obvious solution for achieving closer parity may have been to drop resolution, but in a game so reliant on picking out small detail from a distance, that probably isn't the best idea."
 
It looks virtually identical but the difference here is the game performance where X1 suffers more in FPS drops, lower shadow quality and horrible screen tearing. Watch the video, you can clearly see the difference and how it could impact the experience.

DF suggests a drop in resolution (maybe to 900p) may help better achieve game performance parity but it wouldn't be optimal since the fine details count in this type of game.

"An obvious solution for achieving closer parity may have been to drop resolution, but in a game so reliant on picking out small detail from a distance, that probably isn't the best idea."

I tend to take their analysis articles with a pinch of salt. If they're reviews were to be taken at face value, games like Dead Rising 3 would be an unplayable mess. We know this is very much not the case.
 
I tend to take their analysis articles with a pinch of salt. If they're reviews were to be taken at face value, games like Dead Rising 3 would be an unplayable mess. We know this is very much not the case.

That's okay but you can watch the video with your own eyes and then judge for yourself. I can clearly see the juddering/screen tearing in the X1 version but in contrast, the game looks smoother on the PS4 to play.
 
The truth is people will spend more time reading the DF comparison than actually playing this game.
 
Yup, pretty much the same...and the gap continues to diminish. Nice. Though PC takes the cake yet again, no surprise.
 
I think the X1 version is using the new SDK tools too, right?
Yup, they had just got it. Bummer they haven't had much time with it, but it jumped them up to 1080p right away because of it. They said they will optimize it more with time.
 
i don't either.. other than the tearing which can be patched, the games look identical

Update: Thanks for the comments, yes, the Xbox One launch day patch adds a v-sync option. It's actually an adaptive v-sync that appears to lock gameplay to 30fps, with occasional tearing when the engine dips below that target. We'll have an updated comparison video later.

It's a patch to lock it @ 30 though, not 60.
 
PC master race.

Yep.
900p is the sweet spot for these consoles as even the more powerful (PS4) console struggles to maintain 60fps.

Fine details be damned.
If people want amazing detail at full 1080p/vsync/60fps they need to consider PC gaming as a viable alternative.
 
Yep.
900p is the sweet spot for these consoles as even the more powerful (PS4) console struggles to maintain 60fps.

Fine details be damned.
If people want amazing detail at full 1080p/vsync/60fps they need to consider PC gaming as a viable alternative.

What is more, to achieve that on a PC does not require any special rig. It is a rather low power game.
 
Wow. Thank God I dont give a crap about most if this. Otherwise I wouldn't be playing this awesome game.
 
My question EXACTLY. What the hell was that all about? Why slow the game down to a snails pace to make comparisons? I wonder what the game looks like at full speed..

To show the screen tearing, lolz. Is typical DF. If screentearing is that big a deal then it will be fully noticeable at full speed, and since that is what people play it at, it would also be more useful for potential consumers.
 
Not shocked at the outcome. I might buy V3 later, they gave away V2 for free on Steam so I've been playing that occasionally.
 
What ever happened to Lens of Truth? They actually did better comparisons (visually), but they haven't posted since April...and even then, it was rare. They used to do all the games.
 
Yep.
900p is the sweet spot for these consoles as even the more powerful (PS4) console struggles to maintain 60fps.

Fine details be damned.
If people want amazing detail at full 1080p/vsync/60fps they need to consider PC gaming as a viable alternative.
It didn't struggle to maintain 60fps lol and this is a 1st attempt from Rebellions on the PS4.
PS4 has shown it can handle 1080p/60fps the XBO not so much....nice try though.
 
I don't think the sdk will be advantageous for most games that are coming out now will they? I mean look at BF: hardline 1080p and 60fps on x1, but thats because it comes out later I would assume, more time to bump up everything.
 
What is more, to achieve that on a PC does not require any special rig. It is a rather low power game.

I'm sure my girlfriends ebay PC/theater room PC could max the game at 1080p 60fps solid.
 
[QUOTE="VaLLiancE, post: 206661, member: 14"]It didn't struggle to maintain 60fps lol and this is a 1st attempt from Rebellions on the PS4.PS4 has shown it can handle 1080p/60fps the XBO not so much....nice try though.[/QUOTE]

What? Isn't it like 99% of developers 1st attempt on PS4? You make no sense.
 
I don't think the sdk will be advantageous for most games that are coming out now will they? I mean look at BF: hardline 1080p and 60fps on x1, but thats because it comes out later I would assume, more time to bump up everything.

I don't think the sdk will be advantageous for most games that are coming out now will they? I mean look at BF: hardline 1080p and 60fps on x1, but thats because it comes out later I would assume, more time to bump up everything.

BF Hardline is not 1080p 60fps on PS4 and certainly not X1.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-battlefield-hardline-beta-performance-analysis

"On PS4, we see the same 1600x900 native rendering resolution and identical post-process anti-aliasing, along with a performance profile that's similar - perhaps possibly worse - than its DICE stablemate's."
 
Status
Not open for further replies.