Do you believe in ALIENS?

Whoah. So even if you say only 1 in a million produce intelligent life, that still gives you 60,000 planets with LGM.

and that is 60 billion in OUR galaxy... not even out of the billions of other galaxies.

The numbers start to get out the realm of being real after a while.
 
I think America should consider the creation of a Citadel. That will get the aliens' attention. Let them know we just want to meet and chat.
 
and that is 60 billion in OUR galaxy... not even out of the billions of other galaxies.

The numbers start to get out the realm of being real after a while.

The 60 billion figure was just for the Milky Way alone? Wow...
 
I definitely believe in Aliens. There are simply too many cases about them throughout history. You gotta figure at least 1 of them is right. That's just the law of cause and effect right there mate. Not to mention I found this pretty interesting...

http://www.examiner.com/article/extraterrestrials-nasa-rover-shows-mars-rodent?cid=taboola_inbound

There was this one time in Utah too....o_O

I remember watching this show where a guy said, "everyone's got it wrong. We aren't waiting to be invaded. The invasion already happened." Something to think about..
 
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I definitely believe in Aliens. There are simply too many cases about them throughout history. You gotta figure at least 1 of them is right. That's just the law of cause and effect right there mate. Not to mention I found this pretty interesting...

http://www.examiner.com/article/extraterrestrials-nasa-rover-shows-mars-rodent?cid=taboola_inbound

There was this one time in Utah too....o_O

I remember watching this show where a guy said, "everyone's got it wrong. We aren't waiting to be invaded. The invasion already happened." Something to think about..

*Looks at McMasters avatar* I think you're an alien. That's why you say "mate" so much. It's not a term of friendship. It's orders from your leader.
 
The 60 billion figure was just for the Milky Way alone? Wow...


Yeah. I don't think some people truly realize how big the Milky Way is.

See where our solar system is on the image? That dot is actually covering enough space for it to be shown a dozen times... just a single pixel would represent the size of our solar system.

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*Looks at McMasters avatar* I think you're an alien. That's why you say "mate" so much. It's not a term of friendship. It's orders from your leader.

Wut? I'm alien because I say "mate" so much? I'm not seeing the connection....mate.

Actually, Aussies use the word to describe friends or someone special. And "orders from your leader?" That's odd. Look what I found:

mate1
māt/
noun
  1. 1.
    each of a pair of birds or other animals.

    "a male bird sings to court a mate"
    synonyms:match, fellow, twin, companion, other half, equivalent More
  2. 2.
    a fellow member or joint occupant of a specified thing.

    "his tablemates"
    synonyms:partner, life partner, husband, wife, spouse, lover, live-in lover,significant other, companion, helpmate, helpmeet, consort; More
verb
  1. 1.
    (of animals or birds) come together for breeding; copulate.

    "successful males may mate with many females"
    synonyms:breed, couple, copulate More
  2. 2.
    connect or be connected mechanically.

    "a four-cylinder engine mated to a five-speed gearbox"
 
yeah, but we also have to consider, we are basing our beliefs and theories on what WE know. When we look into the sky, we are looking into the past. So, some things we are looking at are billions of years old.

In that time, other life COULD in theory, and it is just theory, COULD find ways to defeat our KNOWN laws of physics and space. People should be willing to consider that things can and will change with scientific discoveries, but even then there is so much we don't know or don't understand.

People who blanketly say "no way they could even travel here" need to understand that as a race, we haven't even been upright that long. Other forms of life out there could have billions of years of evolution on top of us.

Oh I'm sure there is life out there more evolved than us, hell, we could all be pets in some galactic entities terrarium for all we know. I was referring to how long it would take us to reach those planets.
 
Oh I'm sure there is life out there more evolved than us, hell, we could all be pets in some galactic entities terrarium for all we know. I was referring to how long it would take us to reach those planets.

yeah, we in no way could.. not for a looooong time ;)

But the argument was about aliens I thought? That there is NO WAY they could make it to us because we can't envision a way to get to them.

My point is, don't rule out alien visits here just because it goes against what we know.
 
Wut? I'm alien because I say "mate" so much? I'm not seeing the connection....mate.

Actually, Aussies use [....]

:really: I guess you didn't get the joke. I'll explain. Look at your avatar. You have an alien for an avatar. That's why I said you were an alien.

Then, I played on the meaning of the word "mate." Many bad science fiction stories have the idea of aliens coming to earth and mating with us -- sometimes just for kicks, sometimes to save their species or whatnot. "Mate" as in procreate (definition #1, verb).

So I was saying, you are an alien, come with orders to "mate" with us, and although you are trying to keep it secret, you leak your true purpose in your language. Ok, maybe that's not hilarious, but it's at least a little clever.

It reminds me of the old Damon Knight story, "To Serve Man." They made that one into a Twilight Zone episode. Everyone thinks the aliens are nice, here to serve us, because they are very attentive and have this book called "To Serve Man" they carry around with them. Last line of the story: "It's a cookbook."
 
It reminds me of the old Damon Knight story, "To Serve Man." They made that one into a Twilight Zone episode. Everyone thinks the aliens are nice, here to serve us, because they are very attentive and have this book called "To Serve Man" they carry around with them. Last line of the story: "It's a cookbook."
:laugh: Love that episode.
 
Yeah. I don't think some people truly realize how big the Milky Way is.

See where our solar system is on the image? That dot is actually covering enough space for it to be shown a dozen times... just a single pixel would represent the size of our solar system.

milky-way-earth-location.jpg

It's really impossible to grasp, how large the galaxy is, to say nothing of the universe. I cannot wrap my head around it. All I can do is just feel a sense of mystery and awe. It puts things into perspective.

It's kind of funny to imagine that on other planets, other species' fanboys are probably arguing about their version of console wars.
 
:really: I guess you didn't get the joke. I'll explain. Look at your avatar. You have an alien for an avatar. That's why I said you were an alien.

Then, I played on the meaning of the word "mate." Many bad science fiction stories have the idea of aliens coming to earth and mating with us -- sometimes just for kicks, sometimes to save their species or whatnot. "Mate" as in procreate (definition #1, verb).

So I was saying, you are an alien, come with orders to "mate" with us, and although you are trying to keep it secret, you leak your true purpose in your language. Ok, maybe that's not hilarious, but it's at least a little clever.

It reminds me of the old Damon Knight story, "To Serve Man." They made that one into a Twilight Zone episode. Everyone thinks the aliens are nice, here to serve us, because they are very attentive and have this book called "To Serve Man" they carry around with them. Last line of the story: "It's a cookbook."

That.....that's really gross, actually. o_O

Great! Now I'm having visions from the film Fire in the Sky, which freaked me out! Thanks Obama......I mean Anderson.
 
I think aliens more intelligent than humans is very slim. Evolution was good to us, most planets that have life are probably sea palms and photosynthetic like material. It took 4 billion years of random mutations in solvent(water) around heat vents to even start us off; and most planet cores aren't as stable as ours. My evolutionary proff always used the Goldilocks story, "we were just right." Most people forget that Earth's ambient temperature is perfect for stable configurations of material.
 
I think aliens more intelligent than humans is very slim. Evolution was good to us, most planets that have life are probably sea palms and photosynthetic like material. It took 4 billion years of random mutations in solvent(water) around heat vents to even start us off; and most planet cores aren't as stable as ours. My evolutionary proff always used the Goldilocks story, "we were just right." Most people forget that Earth's ambient temperature is perfect for stable configurations of material.
The universe is so old though that the random mutation may not be such a stretch though.
 
According to the numbers illiniguy posted, even if intelligent life is a 1 in a million occurrence on planets with life, that still yields 60K intelligent species in our galaxy alone -- then multiply that by however many galaxies there are. Intelligent life is no doubt rare, but because of the enormous scale of the universe, there are probably quite a few of these rare occurrences.
 
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If there is ever an alien invasion, I hope it happens near the end of my natural life. I don't think I could mentally deal with that s***.

I mean, they might not have the nicest intentions. They might be very large and hungry and are just stopping by to eat everybody on Earth before moving on in their travels. LOL.
 
If there is ever an alien invasion, I hope it happens near the end of my natural life. I don't think I could mentally deal with that s***.

I mean, they might not have the nicest intentions. They might be very large and hungry and are just stopping by to eat everybody on Earth before moving on in their travels. LOL.

Put it this way, any extra-terrestrial life that visits us is going to be way more technologically advanced than us.
 
It's a mathematical improbability that we are alone in the universe. As to why intelligent life has never contacted us? That's obvious, what intelligent life would want to talk to us?

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The Galaxy alone is so vast, countless numbers of spacefaring species could exist and never encounter one-another. From a cosmic perspective, we just popped into existence, and may be so far down the scale of intelligence, that to "Aliens" the radio noise and bustle emanating from our little planet is nothing more than the sound of crickets, chirping in the dark.
 
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