Kotaku: Installing Xbox One games takes way too long

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We wanted to test the install times of both new consoles, so we plugged a PS4 into an Xbox One's TV input and watched them race to install a game. You can see in our video, there's a big difference in the two systems.



Both the Xbox One and PS4 require all games to be installed from the disc, due to the increasing size of games and the relatively low speed of optical drives. So both consoles have a feature that allows you to launch a game as soon as enough content is installed to begin running it, while the rest of the data continues to install in the background. Our test was how long it takes to launch the game from the time you insert a disc, with a normal console connected to the internet.

We tested six multiplatform games on both consoles and every time, the PS4 was under a minute while the Xbox One install was several minutes long and required downloading an update before beginning the installation. When you include downloading those updates for each Xbox One game that happen in the background on PS4, the install times can get as high as fifteen minutes before you can even launch the game.

Remember that this is only a test of how long the games initially take to install. Once the games are fully installed, they take about the same amount of time to boot up on either console.

So here's the general idea: You put in a game to install it, a progress bar comes up, and at some point you can launch the game and start playing while it keeps installing.

On PS4, after inserting a disc, you'll be shown a progress bar that ends when you're able to launch the game, and if there's a day-one update, it downloads in the background, and you can install it when you want to play online or whatever the case may be for that update.

On Xbox One, you insert a disc and are shown a progress bar showing the percentage of the full installation, and when enough is installed to run the game, you'll see a message that says "Ready to Start!" The only difference is that the installation from the disc doesn't seem to start until you've downloaded and installed the update.1

Now, there's another big difference here. Both consoles will let you know when the game is ready to launch. But once you get into the game, some parts may not be finished installing. For ACIV and Battlefield 4, that would mean the multiplayer modes (on both platforms). However, it seems that Xbox One lets you launch a game even before some singleplayer content is ready. I tested this with Madden 25 on Xbox One. Once the game was "ready to start" most modes like Connected Franchise or Practice were locked off until the game was completely installed. However, after installing the same game on PS4, those modes were playable after the initial install, which took 38 seconds.

We tested Assassin's Creed IV on two different Xbox Ones, and had the same issue, resulting in standing in that beautiful Animus loading void while it installed the last bits of singleplayer content required to start the story. Although in that case it only required a couple of extra minutes to get those modes. Unlike Madden, the full disc didn't need to be installed. On both consoles, the game has a timer or progress meter in the main menu telling you the progress of the full install. So at least you aren't left blindly guessing when you'll be able to play.

Since all of the games we were testing required an update, we factored this into our times. On the PS4, they happened in the background and didn't affect our ability to install or begin the game, while on Xbox One, the installation from disc wouldn't begin until after the update finished.

I was using an Xbox One connected via Wi-Fi, getting about 9-11Mbps download speed, so we ran a test with another Xbox on a faster internet connection installing Assassin's Creed IV to see how much of a difference that could make in downloading the update. To give you an idea of the time difference the 300-500MB updates added, we tested installing Assassin's Creed IV on two consoles with the internet disconnected.

How Long Your First Install Will Take On PS4 And Xbox One

Assassin's Creed IV: Xbox One (offline, no update): 5 minutes 50 seconds
Xbox One (with update, fastest connection): 7 minutes 2 seconds
Xbox One (with update, 10Mbps connection): 10 minutes 32 seconds
PS4: 42 seconds

The rest of these were tested on our office Wi-Fi which is around 9-11Mbps. It may have been faster on a wired connection, but you can compare your own connection speed here.

These are our results:

Need For Speed Rivals: XBO: 09:25 (including update)
PS4: 00:32

Just Dance 2014: XBO: 08:48 (including update)
PS4: 00:45

NBA Live 14:
XBO: 16:26 (including update)
PS4: 00:35


FIFA 14:
XBO: 16:06 (including update)
PS4: 00:34

Madden 25:
XBO: 9:38 (including update)
PS4: 00:38

Do you have an Xbox One or PS4? Time a test, and let us know what you get. Include your internet speed, and make sure to note any other important information. Like if you timed from putting the disc in to launching the game, or actually getting to gameplay, or some other metric.
 
Yikes at those times. I spent a majority of my gaming time on PS3, and I know that feeling of having to sit around for an install. I'm glad it was addressed with the PS4, but I would have expected something similar for X1.
 
That's fairly crazy. I didn't time my x1 installs but those times seem about right. Any hardware gurus care to speculate on the difference? Those ps4 install times are spectacularly fast. How does it read read all that data from the disk so fast?
 
No wonder the PS4 drives spin so loud, it's a f***ing beast lol ~(Elpresador voice)

I do not yet own a PS4 but why were there no update comparisons for the PS4 games?
 
No wonder the PS4 drives spin so loud, it's a f***ing beast lol ~(Elpresador voice)

I do not yet own a PS4 but why were there no update comparisons for the PS4 games?

How can then compare PS4 exclusives? I can say KZ and Knack fell into those times, though.

And I'm sure the short times is due to the PS4 allowing you to play after "x" amount has installed, and it does the rest in the background. I thought X1 had that feature as well, but I guess not.
 
How can then compare PS4 exclusives? I can say KZ and Knack fell into those times, though.

Sorry, what I meant is when comparing those multiplat games, such as NBA, Fifa, Madden etc... In brackets they mention the X1 versions include the update (day one I assume) but don't the PS4 versions also have an update? Or are they updating whilst the game installs at the same time?

And I'm sure the short times is due to the PS4 allowing you to play after "x" amount has installed, and it does the rest in the background. I thought X1 had that feature as well, but I guess not.

Though I waited for the discs to fully install on my X1 (and COD took ages), the games did have an option to play whilst the remainder of the disc continued to install.

Not sure what Kotaku did exactly here, I have no idea because I won't have my PS4 until late December.
 
How can then compare PS4 exclusives? I can say KZ and Knack fell into those times, though.

And I'm sure the short times is due to the PS4 allowing you to play after "x" amount has installed, and it does the rest in the background. I thought X1 had that feature as well, but I guess not.

It is supposed to. But for me KI had to install 72% before it was ready. DR3 was at 48%.

I would kill for a ten minute install time on my xbone and according to support I'm not the only one right now. For me there is a conflict that forces me to have to turn off the net to get it to install properly and then I have to open access to the net again to get any updates. It is awful. Hell, I'd kill for an hour at this point.
 
Sorry, what I meant is when comparing those multiplat games, such as NBA, Fifa, Madden etc... In brackets they mention the X1 versions include the update (day one I assume) but don't the PS4 versions also have an update? Or are they updating whilst the game installs at the same time?



Though I waited for the discs to fully install on my X1 (and COD took ages), the games did have an option to play whilst the remainder of the disc continued to install.

Not sure what Kotaku did exactly here, I have no idea because I won't have my PS4 until late December.

For the PS4, the game is installing while the day one update is being downloaded. After the initial installation, you then have the option to install the update (if you choose to) or go straight into the game to start playing. From what I've read, it seems Xbox One needs to download the update first AND THEN install while PS4 installs while simultaneously downloading the update and then you can either play the game straight away when ready or wait till update finishes downloading, install it, then play the game.

Either way, it usually takes under a minute for me to get into any game and coming from the PS3, that's a huge difference.
 
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My theory is that Microsoft isn't as good as Sony at figuring out exactly what files you need to play right now as Sony, because Sony just spent the last 10 years getting good at it.

Also, I blame the DRM reversal for this. We could play other games while install but the DRM haters made it so the disk is required to play the game... Now all we can do it watch TV...
 
That's a huge difference. Maybe the X1 install times will get better when they unleash the cloud power. :eek:

Hehehe.

I'm kinda hoping MS will allow the BD to run a little louder and install games faster with an update.

After the mess that was PS3 game installs, why MS went and did the same thing is beyond me.

Also, I blame the DRM reversal for this. We could play other games while install but the DRM haters made it so the disk is required to play the game... Now all we can do it watch TV...

We can still play whilst it installs, it just takes a matter of time, the problem is not related to DRM at all, the problem is the drive is slow as f*** for the sake of noise, they need to speed it up for installs.
 
I bought the digital version of Ryse. The download was quick, but the install took a long time before I could launch the game, then it sat at an install screen in game that literally took hours. I was finally able to play one section then the screen went black. I ended up uninstalling and reinstalling overnight. It worked fine the next day, but I'm curious if my next large game install will have the same issues. Not a good initial experience for the first game on a new system. Luckily I like the game!

Obviously, even without the issues I experienced, this is an area MS has a lot of work to do.
 
I bought the digital version of Ryse. The download was quick, but the install took a long time before I could launch the game, then it sat at an install screen in game that literally took hours. I was finally able to play one section then the screen went black. I ended up uninstalling and reinstalling overnight. It worked fine the next day, but I'm curious if my next large game install will have the same issues. Not a good initial experience for the first game on a new system. Luckily I like the game!

Obviously, even without the issues I experienced, this is an area MS has a lot of work to do.

You might have had a similar issue as me. It seems like the install and the updates are trying to do the same thing at the same time and they are stalling out the process. 6 hours with KI and 3 with DR3 here. Remember the good old days when you could just put the disc in the machine and play the game? How the hell did we get here?
 
You might have had a similar issue as me. It seems like the install and the updates are trying to do the same thing at the same time and they are stalling out the process. 6 hours with KI and 3 with DR3 here. Remember the good old days when you could just put the disc in the machine and play the game? How the hell did we get here?
Wow....is this really happening for some of you guys??? I had KI, Forza 5, and Battlefield 4 ready to play in less than an hour...
 
I don't trust Kotaku. I need more sources. Such a video could have easily been created falsely.
 
The comparison isn't full installation, but simply install time before you can quick launch the game and play the content available at that moment. Didn't make sense that a full PS4 disc would install in less than a minute and a full X1 game in only about 10-15 minutes. Both will require much longer times "to get all content available".

But kudos for PS4 having quick launch times in less than a minute.
 
I don't trust Kotaku. I need more sources. Such a video could have easily been created falsely.

Whilst it's possible, it's unlikely they'd fake something this obvious and risk their credibility over this.
 
I have 6 XB1 games right now. From this point on any new game I buy I can play the ones I have or watch TV/Netflix while it installs. Odd there is such a difference in times between the 2 consoles but the "matter meter" is really low for me on this.
 
PS4 does boast some good times, but Kotaku has been on a tear with X1. I'm usually pretty thick skinned reading the articles, but it's getting ridiculous.
 
None of this matters unless someone can provide the differences in installation file structure.
 
Who gives a crap really, while games are installing i'm usually watching TV or doing something else on the console. Not that important to me. Of course would be nice to see that improve but there are higher priority items to address.
 
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Consoles could take another note from steam here and allow preloading. Pre download and install game plus updates then just unlock it at midnight on release day. I have no idea why it's taking the x 1 this long to install though. Maybe a bunch of anti piracy regulation? Don't know.
 
I remember the first day I got mine, my BF4 seemed to take forever, then NBA2k14 was even longer, I was like: Yikes. The Xbox One does have a slow Blu-Ray drive in it though!
 
Do people really think adding 24 hour DRM checks would magically make install times from the disc faster? The two things aren't at all related, it's mind boggling. It has to do with the blu-ray speed and how soon the initial data copied to the HD can be launched and played while the rest of it installs.

I don't know what the digital purchase install/play times are like btw, but this article is clearly about discs.