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Are You Buying...

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  • All Digital

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  • 50/50

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  • Mostly Physical

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Well I went OT enough by asking those questions...my bad
Um, it's all good. Ask away. Or make a new thread for new Xbox One owners who might have questions like you do. It's all good and all fun.
 
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In my mind VaLLiancE looks just like that. Lol

But seriously Valliance, welcome to the club.
 
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Hey hey I am idle here half the time!

Didn't like DR3 my company did via the demo and kinect is in the box(until/if i see a worthy reason)
Haven't bought any games just played the DR3 demo(3 tries wth) and been playing KI.
The games I want aren't out yet :)
I am happy with what I see of the console the big ass console! LOL@ those who say its not that big the X1 is huge. BUT this isn't a problem I like the way it looks.


but Kinect will show you some love
it will know your name!!
next year you will hear Cortanas voice as she, your Xbox talks back to you
and the Kinect is a must for that

I could not find the controller at my brothers house, but I showed his girlfriend how the xbox one worked
by using only my voice
 
I always thought Valliance was a brotha.
Something about the stance of Xbox avatars makes them look so feminine.
 
You want to know what hasn't been brought up? The way Sony used Drive Club and the co marketing of Watch Dogs to push the PS4 line up when those games in reality were still so far away.

I wonder if there was some clever marketing to try and push more PS4's.

I mean those 2 games went from launch titles to no release dates 3 months after launch.
 
Well to be fair to them they didn't push back Watchdogs. Might be a little annoyed after all the attention they gave it.
 
Game delays happen all the time, it's silly to even bring that up.
 
I remember a site actually give Sony a little s*** because WD was on the PS4 box.......
 
I can tell you why PS4 is selling better. It's cheaper and the multiplats tend to be better on the PS4. Multiplats generally sell much better than exclusives, so in the end, multiplats are going to be some of the most important games in regards to what sells.

The cheaper I get. But I hadn't really read anything about multiplat superiority until TR: DE has been overanalyzed ad nauseum. Didn't hear or read anything about any major differences between Madden, FIFA, NBA2K, AC4, NFS. Yeah there was plenty of talk about COD and BF4 but I never came away with definitive answers on either hearing plus's and minus's on both sides of the war. Just saying not so sure that multiplat differences really have been a selling point between systems though it may show itself more prominently in the future.

I must also mention Qbert that I see you continually bringing up the Xbot flip-flop of claiming minor multiplat differences being important b/w 360/PS3 and now downplaying it with the roles reversed. Yes, there were a few extremists who did this but the lionshare of 360 owners may have used it as a bullet point in arguments but truly never saw the differences or cared. Nor do they care now. Gameplay will ALWAYS rule over minor eye straining differences.

I'd also add that there has been a SDF flip-flop also. When getting beaten down in the minor multiplat differences there common retort was it was always about the games and that Sony had the edge for great exclusives. And before launch it was all about PS4 is a gaming machine and for gamers. The flop there is that right now it's MS that is delivering the best exclusives. They've brought out the first nextgen racer, a great zombie game, the hottest new FPS IP in Titanfall along with Gears and Halo on the horizon. Sony's exclusives have been weak and it's only Infamous that is on the near radar for a quality exclusive.

Just my personal observation, as I've stated before - I bought both and honestly don't have a bias either way.
 
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The cheaper I get. But I hadn't really read anything about multiplat superiority until TR: DE has been overanalyzed ad nauseum. Didn't hear or read anything about any major differences between Madden, FIFA, NBA2K, AC4, NFS. Yeah there was plenty of talk about COD and BF4 but I never came away with definitive answers on either hearing plus's and minus's on both sides of the war. Just saying not so sure that multiplat differences really have been a selling point between systems though it may show itself more prominently in the future.

I must also mention Qbert that I see you continually bringing up the Xbot flop of claiming minor multiplat differences being important b/w 360/PS3 and now downplaying it with the roles reversed. Yes, there were a few extremists who did this but the lionshare of 360 owners may have used it as a bullet point in arguments but truly never saw the differences or cared. Nor do they care now. Gameplay will ALWAYS rule over minor eye straining differences.

I'd also add that there has been a SDF flop also. When getting beaten down in the minor multiplat differences there common retort was it was always about the games and that Sony had the edge for great exclusives. And before launch it was all about PS4 is a gaming machine and for gamers. The flop there is that right now it's MS that is delivering the best exclusives. They've brought out the first nextgen racer, a great zombie game, the hottest new FPS IP in Titanfall along with Gears and Halo on the horizon. Sony's exclusives have been weak and it's only Infamous that is on the near radar for a quality exclusive.

Just my personal observation, as I've stated before - I bought both and honestly don't have a bias either way.


What are you talking about "flop"? I never said XB1 was a flop? And while you think CoD and BF4 being better are no big deals......those 2 are arguably the game people will play the most for the entire year.

I'm not bashing XB1, just saying, it is what it is. 360 had more people playing multiplats because they usually were better. Now, people know that the best looking CoD version is on PS4. Sure, not a big deal, but when coupled with lower price, it's easy to see how a lot of people went to PS3.

As for "best exclusives", that's an opinion. Ryse meant sh!t to me. But guess what....so does KZ. In the end, the games that sell the best are multiplats, that can't be denied. So whether or not MS has better exclusives means nothing, when what sells best are games across all platforms. And while most games are about equal between the 2, the best sellers have been shown to be better on PS4.



Years ago, I said over at TXB that many "casual" gamers really had no brand loyalty, and we're seeing that to be true.
 
Sorry Q for not being clear. Edited flop to flip-flop which is what I meant.

As for better exclusives, I didn't even mention Ryse as an example. Much bigger IP's in Forza5 and Dead Rising 3 and both have sold extremely well on a new console. And the point about exclusives was that SDF is flip-flopping that a console is all about the games but right now it's MS that has the exclusives.
 
Sorry Q for not being clear. Edited flop to flip-flop which is what I meant.

As for better exclusives, I didn't even mention Ryse as an example. Much bigger IP's in Forza5 and Dead Rising 3 and both have sold extremely well on a new console. And the point about exclusives was that SDF is flip-flopping that a console is all about the games but right now it's MS that has the exclusives.


Sure they sell well, but still nowhere near the top played and purchased exclusives.

Do you honestly believe that people didn't pick up a PS4 because they knew it was cheaper and that exclusives would at worse be equal or at best be better?


As for flip flopping, yeah, you'll have some flip flopping. I'm not. But as for "has the games", again, opinion. I think KZ sold more than XB1 exclusives, so which has better is going to be in the eye of the beholder.
I've always acknowledged the 360 as being better, hence why it was my most played console. I only started playing PS3 to play with cousins, but I knew why the 360 did better. Hell, it was the console that the most played game was best on. But now, we're seeing 2 of the most played games being better on PS4 coupled with a cheaper price. That's the key point...."coupled with".


TF might change that, but as of right now, I believe the PS4 sold better because we've been hearing for months that it's more powerful coupled with a lower price.
 
Example on what I was saying about ms exclusives not selling great right now.

KZ is currently 40 something on the best sellers list for amazon. Neither DR3 nor Forza make the top 100.
 
Do you think the PS4 exclusives have a combined sales total greater than the X1 exclusives? Despite PS4 selling more consoles, who is selling more exclusive titles. Will that gap grow or shrink after TF and Infamous release? TF seems to be getting a lot more press and it is a FPS while Infamous has the advantage of a higher console base and also not being spread across more platforms like TF is.

I did say in my original post that I truly get the price difference helping Sony. I dont agree that multiplat superiority played much of a role and for games like COD and BF4 I would bet more thought was put into "what console are my friends getting so we can play together" than which version has a miniscule graphic bump.
 
Example on what I was saying about ms exclusives not selling great right now.

KZ is currently 40 something on the best sellers list for amazon. Neither DR3 nor Forza make the top 100.
well amazon isnt the only place that sells games lol i for example have never bought a game from amazon
 
Example on what I was saying about ms exclusives not selling great right now.

KZ is currently 40 something on the best sellers list for amazon. Neither DR3 nor Forza make the top 100.

Didnt we read that DR3 sold over 1 million and I think we read F5 was around 600,000 (just North America). I bet both companies are thrilled with those numbers considering the current install base.
 
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well amazon isnt the only place that sells games lol i for example have never bought a game from amazon
I totally agree. I too have never purchased a game from Amazon nor has anyone i know personally. But i guess Amazon is what we are going to use as the new standard for measuring total software sales and system sales ? Lol. Too funny...
 
Didnt we read that DR3 sold over 1 million and I think we read F5 was around 600,000. I bet both companies are thrilled with those numbers considering the current install base.


Geez, and here lies the problem. I say the games didn't sell as well as PS4 exclusive, and people automatically think I'm saying the XB1 games didn't sell well.


well amazon isnt the only place that sells games lol i for example have never bought a game from amazon

It's not the only place, but it cannot be denied that it's one of the largest sellers of video games, and it's a good indication of how things.


Also, Dr3 shipped over 1 million, but they are keeping how much was sold under wraps. In contrast, KZ sold over a million, and that was back in Dec.
http://www.insiderp.com/killzone-shadowfall-sells-1-million.html


Do you think the PS4 exclusives have a combined sales total greater than the X1 exclusives?
Never said that nor insinuated that.
 
Example on what I was saying about ms exclusives not selling great right now.

KZ is currently 40 something on the best sellers list for amazon. Neither DR3 nor Forza make the top 100.

It appears quite clear to me that you stated "ms exclusives not selling great right now". Is my reading comprehension faulty or is it your wording that is faulty?
 
It appears quite clear to me that you stated "ms exclusives not selling great right now". Is my reading comprehension faulty or is it your wording that is faulty?


Find where I said "ms exclusives are not selling great". Not selling "as well" does not equal "not great".



For the record, last I heard, worldwide, PS4 games were selling better....that doesn't mean XB1 games are selling great, just not as good. Which makes sense, over 1 million more PS4s were sold.
 
Find where I said "ms exclusives are not selling great". Not selling "as well" does not equal "not great".

Gotta say I am lost right now. I found and quoted exactly word for word what you said and you are saying you didnt say it. You didnt say selling as well, you said ms exclusives not selling great right now. It's ok, you are clarifying not selling as well as Sony exclusives...though I dont believe that is true either. While KZ may be leading the exclusive sales race, I believe MS has sold a higher combined total via F5, DR3, and Ryse.

I am totally perplexed that you are claiming you didnt say the former though as I quoted exactly what you said word for word.
 
Sony bragging:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...strong-software-sales-and-twitch-traffic.aspx


I would think that if XB1 sold more software than PS4, MS would have already come out and bragged about it, like they have in the past.

There is no debate that Sony has sold more software. The discussion was regarding exclusive sales. MS has come out of the gate with a stronger exclusive lineup and the SDF has flip flopped that its exclusives that are so important but now that MS is winning on that front they are pretty quiet about that aspect and have switched to the importance of minor differences in multiplats.
 
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