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Are You Buying...

  • All Physical

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • All Digital

    Votes: 5 50.0%
  • 50/50

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • Mostly Physical

    Votes: 4 40.0%
  • Mostly Digital

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Gamepass all the Way!

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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That is easier to say when you haven't put much in it. Next year will have like half a billion worth of first party games added.
And probably a price increase. And probably a big increase of subscribers once hundreds of games including COD hit Game Pass.
 
Well Sony won't sign the agreement, so they are saying 2024 once this current one expires.

Phil said their intent is to treat COD like Minecraft, keeping it on Playstation indefinitely. So let's see if they backpedal ( or are lying :hehe:) here.
 
Phil said their intent is to treat COD like Minecraft, keeping it on Playstation indefinitely. So let's see if they backpedal ( or are lying :hehe:) here.
Well Sony won’t sign so there probably won’t be COD for PS 🤷‍♂️
 

Hmmm 🤔

Microsoft misses Xbox Game Pass subscriber target for second year​



Microsoft targeted a 73% growth rate for Game Pass for its fiscal year ending June 30, 2022, as part of performance incentives for Nadella and other top executives. But the service only achieved 28% growth.

  • That's two misses in a row. The company also failed to hit the executive pay Game Pass target last year, after exceeding it in 2020.
  • Microsoft doesn't publicize actual Game Pass subscriber target counts, but it said in the filing that its Xbox division has delivered "over 25 million Game Pass subscriptions."

Between the lines: In an interview yesterday at a Wall Street Journal tech conference, Microsoft's head of gaming, Phil Spencer, framed Game Pass as profitable but limited.

  • It accounts for 10%-15% of the company's content and services revenue (which includes gaming) and is "profitable for us," he said.
  • In remarks transcribed by The Verge, Spencer said Game Pass growth was "incredible" on PC but had slowed down on console, "mainly because at some point you’ve reached everybody on console that wants to subscribe."
  • Game Pass' growth might also be stalled due to a lack of available major releases. In the last two years, Microsoft has published few big exclusive games, especially compared to rivals Sony and Nintendo — neither of which bundle new releases into their subscription offerings.
 

Hmmm 🤔

Microsoft misses Xbox Game Pass subscriber target for second year​



Microsoft targeted a 73% growth rate for Game Pass for its fiscal year ending June 30, 2022, as part of performance incentives for Nadella and other top executives. But the service only achieved 28% growth.

  • That's two misses in a row. The company also failed to hit the executive pay Game Pass target last year, after exceeding it in 2020.
  • Microsoft doesn't publicize actual Game Pass subscriber target counts, but it said in the filing that its Xbox division has delivered "over 25 million Game Pass subscriptions."

Between the lines: In an interview yesterday at a Wall Street Journal tech conference, Microsoft's head of gaming, Phil Spencer, framed Game Pass as profitable but limited.

  • It accounts for 10%-15% of the company's content and services revenue (which includes gaming) and is "profitable for us," he said.
  • In remarks transcribed by The Verge, Spencer said Game Pass growth was "incredible" on PC but had slowed down on console, "mainly because at some point you’ve reached everybody on console that wants to subscribe."
  • Game Pass' growth might also be stalled due to a lack of available major releases. In the last two years, Microsoft has published few big exclusive games, especially compared to rivals Sony and Nintendo — neither of which bundle new releases into their subscription offerings.
Does that make you moist? 😎
 
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Hmmm 🤔

Microsoft misses Xbox Game Pass subscriber target for second year​



Microsoft targeted a 73% growth rate for Game Pass for its fiscal year ending June 30, 2022, as part of performance incentives for Nadella and other top executives. But the service only achieved 28% growth.

  • That's two misses in a row. The company also failed to hit the executive pay Game Pass target last year, after exceeding it in 2020.
  • Microsoft doesn't publicize actual Game Pass subscriber target counts, but it said in the filing that its Xbox division has delivered "over 25 million Game Pass subscriptions."

Between the lines: In an interview yesterday at a Wall Street Journal tech conference, Microsoft's head of gaming, Phil Spencer, framed Game Pass as profitable but limited.

  • It accounts for 10%-15% of the company's content and services revenue (which includes gaming) and is "profitable for us," he said.
  • In remarks transcribed by The Verge, Spencer said Game Pass growth was "incredible" on PC but had slowed down on console, "mainly because at some point you’ve reached everybody on console that wants to subscribe."
  • Game Pass' growth might also be stalled due to a lack of available major releases. In the last two years, Microsoft has published few big exclusive games, especially compared to rivals Sony and Nintendo — neither of which bundle new releases into their subscription offerings.
Not surprising at all. Between the console being limited by install base limitations, Xcloud streaming not there yet performance wise, and a pretty poor year in terms of games being added to the service in 2022.

The potential for the service is and always was the mobile market which Game Pass hasn't really targeted yet. That is why they want Activision, it isn't for COD so much, although it is a nice revenue maker, it isn't going to do much for GP sub increase on console. No, it is Activisions mobile games, IPs, and studios that are the big draw for MS.
 
The Long Dark numbers:

  • Steam (paid): 4,000,000
  • Xbox (paid): 750,000
  • Xbox Game Pass (subscription): 2,000,000
  • PlayStation (paid): 500,000
  • PlayStation+ (subscription): 1,300,000
  • Switch (paid): 68,000
  • WeGame (paid): 125,000
  • Epic Game Store (combo paid + give-away): 1,500,000+
 
So XS consoles are losing $100-200 for every console sold right now? 🤔



Today, Spencer said, Microsoft gives people choice in how much they’d like to spend if they want consoles. The company offers the $499 Xbox Series X and the less powerful $299 Xbox Series S. Microsoft subsidizes the cost to the tune of $100 to $200 per console, with the expectation that it will make the money back on sales of accessories and storefront purchases, he said. It’s up to gamers if they’d like to pay $10 or $15 per month for Game Pass subscriptions. They can also buy games outright, or play certain games for free.
 
  • Hmm
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How can they be losing so much money on the console when Sony said they were profitable pretty early on?
 
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