Numbers Discussion Thread

[Kvally]

Oh and there is this....

NY Times, "MSFT earnings show slowest growth in 5 years."

This and the and xbox content and SERVICES down 3%...

Gamepass is how old?

And MS also just said they expect an even larger drop next quarter.

“Due to a deteriorating PC market”, that doesn’t mean it’s going to get better next quarter, though. Microsoft is forecasting a Windows OEM revenue decline in Q2, 2023 in the high 30 percent mark.

Their content is down for Xbox due to first and third party games. Services are up.

 

[menace-uk-]

Will gladly walk you through what I posted.

NY Times, "MSFT earnings show slowest growth in 5 years."

This and the and xbox content and SERVICES down 3%...

Gamepass is how old?
Answer 5+ years June 1, 2017

So with reports of content,services being down 3% and MSFT showing its slowest growth in 5 years..

The simple interpretation is...
The 3% loss between content and services has to be divided by Gamepass and software ie games.

Taking into consideration the above,Gamepass being 5 years old and MSFT showing its slowest growth in 5 years.
Gamepass has lost them some money.

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You understand what "growth" means, right? And you claim you can read. So, how is it this info graphic just made a mockery off you. Lol.

GP isn't part part of the decline. It saw growth which actually helped offset the decline. It flat-out tells you that. Lol.

It also flat-out tells you where the decline comes from. Lol.

Lol.

 

[karmakid]

Microsoft Q1 2023: profits and Windows down but Xbox and devices up

Xbox and Surface do well as Windows stumbles.

www.theverge.com

 

[Kvally]

Microsoft Q1 2023: profits and Windows down but Xbox and devices up

Xbox and Surface do well as Windows stumbles.

www.theverge.com

Love that they are adding new gamers instead of just upgrading. I suspect the Series S will be at $199 next holiday. That's gonna fly off the shelves with all the 2023 Xbox exclusives coming out and Game Pass.

 

[karmakid]

Love that they are adding new gamers instead of just upgrading. I suspect the Series S will be at $199 next holiday. That's gonna fly off the shelves with all the 2023 Xbox exclusives coming out and Game Pass.

Weren’t there deals where it was 250 with an extra controller, and technically a pack in game that’s already f2p so you wouldn’t need live gold

 

[Kvally]

Weren’t there deals where it was 250 with an extra controller, and technically a pack in game that’s already f2p so you wouldn’t need live gold

Yup!

 

[Kvally]

Xbox Made More Money In Past 3 Months Than It Ever Has For A Q1 In 20-Year History​

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/x...has-for-a-q1-in-20-year-history/1100-6508625/

 

[menace-uk-]

Xbox Made More Money In Past 3 Months Than It Ever Has For A Q1 In 20-Year History​

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/x...has-for-a-q1-in-20-year-history/1100-6508625/

That Game Pass decline is unreal. I mean a 159% growth on PC is really bad and just highlights that GP decline. Lol.

 

[DriedMangoes]

That Game Pass decline is unreal. I mean a 159% growth on PC is really bad and just highlights that GP decline. Lol.

Did they ever announce what the PC numbers were for Gamepass ?

 

[Kvally]

Did they ever announce what the PC numbers were for Gamepass ?

73 million active for Vaio PC's. Still waiting on Surface and HP numbers. IBM won't give out Lenovo Game Pass for PC numbers.

 

[DriedMangoes]

73 million active for Vaio PC's. Still waiting on Surface and HP numbers. IBM won't give out Lenovo Game Pass for PC numbers.

Almost thought you were serious lol. Almost.

Would be nice to see what the segregated numbers are between console and PC.

 

[Kvally]

Almost thought you were serious lol. Almost.

Would be nice to see what the segregated numbers are between console and PC.

MS doesn't release numbers. You know this, and I know this. This has been told to you like 5 million times.

 

[DriedMangoes]

MS doesn't release numbers. You know this, and I know this. This has been told to you like 5 million times.

Yes they do. They released Gamepass numbers in January. Just seeing if they ever released just PC numbers

So I can see exactly how much growth there was because saying 150+% growth of an unknown number is pretty vague.

 

[DriedMangoes]

UK Boxed Charts Week Ending October 22nd 2022:

Gotham Knights takes No.2 in week of fresh releases | UK Physical Charts
WB Montreal action game kept off the top spot by another big FIFA week

Gotham Knights takes No.2 in week of fresh releases | UK Physical Charts

FIFA 23 has held on to the top spot in the UK physical charts for a third week, despite a 19% decline in sales. There w…

www.gamesindustry.biz

Gotham Knights Takes No.2, Sales Spilt Per Platform:

PS5: 78%
Xbox Series: 22%

A Plague Tale Requiem At No.5, Sales Spilt Per Platform:

PS5: 90%
Xbox Series: 10%

Horizon Forbidden West At No.8

Ghostbusters Spirits Unleashed At No.15, Sales Spilt Per Platform:

PS5: 56%
Xbox: 23%
PS4: 21%
PS5+PS4: 77%

 

[Kvally]

Yes they do. They released Gamepass numbers in January. Just seeing if they ever released just PC numbers

Nope.

 

[Kvally]

UK Boxed Charts Week Ending October 22nd 2022:

Gotham Knights takes No.2 in week of fresh releases | UK Physical Charts
WB Montreal action game kept off the top spot by another big FIFA week

Gotham Knights takes No.2 in week of fresh releases | UK Physical Charts

FIFA 23 has held on to the top spot in the UK physical charts for a third week, despite a 19% decline in sales. There w…

www.gamesindustry.biz

Gotham Knights Takes No.2, Sales Spilt Per Platform:

PS5: 78%
Xbox Series: 22%

A Plague Tale Requiem At No.5, Sales Spilt Per Platform:

PS5: 90%
Xbox Series: 10%

Horizon Forbidden West At No.8

Ghostbusters Spirits Unleashed At No.15, Sales Spilt Per Platform:

PS5: 56%
Xbox: 23%
PS4: 21%
PS5+PS4: 77%

RIP Xbox...boxes. Hello GAME PASS! Plague Tale was a solid fit for Xbox Game Pass, that is fo sho.

 

[Kvally]

 

[DriedMangoes]

RIP Xbox...boxes. Hello GAME PASS! Plague Tale was a solid fit for Xbox Game Pass, that is fo sho.

Cuts into traditional sales but for subscribers this is a good score.

 

[Kvally]

Cuts into traditional sales but for subscribers this is a good score.

And Phil just now confirmed that Game Pass is profitable for Xbox.

"Xbox Games Pass. I think it'll stay in that 10-15% overall revenue, and it's profitable for us" - Phil Spencer

 

[DriedMangoes]

And Phil just now confirmed that Game Pass is profitable for Xbox.

"Xbox Games Pass. I think it'll stay in that 10-15% overall revenue, and it's profitable for us" - Phil Spencer

Especially after they raise prices.

 

[Kvally]

Especially after they raise prices.

Yup, even more! Just like Sony is making more after raising prices.

 

[DriedMangoes]

Yup, even more! Just like Sony is making more after raising prices.

So it's good to raise prices again.

 

[Kvally]

So it's good to raise prices again.

For the companies, yes!

Not for us, the gamers (the most important part!)

 

[DriedMangoes]

For the companies, yes!

Not for us, the gamers (the most important part!)

Good thing I did the $1 trick and conversion of 1:1 XBL gold to GP ultimate

 

[Kvally]

Good thing I did the $1 trick and conversion of 1:1 XBL gold to GP ultimate

Same! Now, if we can just do the same with PS+! FOR THE PLAYERS!

 

[DriedMangoes]

Same! Now, if we can just do the same with PS+! FOR THE PLAYERS!

I bought $29 CAD PS plus 12 months like a decade ago but I'm due for some renewal in November 2023 next year. Hopefully can score some deals or loophole

 

[Kvally]

I bought $29 CAD PS plus 12 months like a decade ago but I'm due for some renewal in November 2023 next year. Hopefully can score some deals or loophole

I was thinking along the lines of the PS+ Premium.

$29 is great for PS+. Best deal I have got is $39 USD. Which is the same as my XBL Gold. CD Keys for my purchases.

 

[menace-uk-]

Did they ever announce what the PC numbers were for Gamepass ?

Not that I am aware of.

 

[menace-uk-]

RIP Xbox...boxes. Hello GAME PASS! Plague Tale was a solid fit for Xbox Game Pass, that is fo sho.

More like Rip irrelevant info. Hello digital.

 

[menace-uk-]

And Phil just now confirmed that Game Pass is profitable for Xbox.

"Xbox Games Pass. I think it'll stay in that 10-15% overall revenue, and it's profitable for us" - Phil Spencer

That is easier to say when you haven't put much in it. Next year will have like half a billion worth of first party games added.