Grand Dumb Auto XXIIX

[mb1025]

Why not keep it indefinite like Minecraft? They didn't offer 3 years for Minecraft.

A couple of things here.

1. When they acquired Mojang they didn’t have gamepass and Xbox had a different roadmap and structure.

2. With GP and 2 large publishers acquired they have leverage with these bigger games. It’s actually the first game outside of a contract deal that they would be putting on another console since Minecraft.

So with that said Microsoft shouldn’t just hand COD over permanently while Sony is locking down 3rd party games and stopping games from coming to GP.

The deal will go through and MS will do what’s it wants with the IP.

 

[Kvally]

How long are they signed for? Haven't seen much news of these.

Obviously.

 

[DriedMangoes]

A couple of things here.

1. When they acquired Mojang they didn’t have gamepass and Xbox had a different roadmap and structure.

2. With GP and 2 large publishers acquired they have leverage with these bigger games. It’s actually the first game outside of a contract deal that they would be putting on another console since Minecraft.

So with that said Microsoft shouldn’t just hand COD over permanently while Sony is locking down 3rd party games and stopping games from coming to GP.

The deal will go through and MS will do what’s it wants with the IP.

If they really are trying to offer gamers as many platforms and choices to play their games on, don't see why handing COD over is a bad thing. More revenue on an already existing userbase, they can still do day 1 on GP, win - win?

 

[Swede]

The butt-hurtness of Shawn in this thread is so obvious I almost feel bad for him. Poor little fella.

 

[karmakid]

Ok, who here thinks…

A - it’s going exclusive to Xbox, xCloud and PC

B - it’ll stay multiplatform and hopefully switch

My vote is on B

 

[karmakid]

Yo, a current logically scientific rumor that’s been floating around in my head regarding the lack of a COD game next year is because they’re switching to the unreal engine 5, truthful fact, cos statistics

 

[bullzeye]

Any links so I can read up on it?

Found another showing MS as #2.

Top 10 Gaming Companies In 2022 (Ranked Revenue Wise)

Sony and Microsoft lead the list of Gaming Industries Companies with revenue of $24.9 and $16.3 billion respectively

www.totalsportal.com

Top Public Video Game Companies | By Revenue | Newzoo

Newzoo's Top Video Game Companies ranking is updated every quarter. Features the top public video game companies by revenues.

newzoo.com

Top 10 gaming companies made $126bn revenue last year

The top 10 gaming companies made $126bn in revenue last year. That's according to a new report by Newzoo, shared by Ven…

www.eurogamer.net

Report: Top 10 companies made 65% of global games market in 2021

The top 10 public games companies account for 65% of the global market, according to the latest Global Games Market Rep…

www.gamesindustry.biz

Numbers everywhere

 

[menace-uk-]

Any links so I can read up on it?

Found another showing MS as #2.

Top 10 Gaming Companies In 2022 (Ranked Revenue Wise)

Sony and Microsoft lead the list of Gaming Industries Companies with revenue of $24.9 and $16.3 billion respectively

www.totalsportal.com

It doesn't even matter. Just using these numbers you see the Acti/Blizz deal only puts Xbox revenue at the same as Playstation revenue. Either way, all this talk of monopolies and what not is ridiculous.

Competition. Sony is afraid of it.

 

[menace-uk-]

There are no indefinite contracts. Like any contract, Minecraft has timed contracts.

They don't. It has rolling contracts. Sony wouldn't take that though as MS can cancel it anytime they want and Sony couldn't do a thing about it.

 

[karmakid]

They don't. It has rolling contracts. Sony wouldn't take that though as MS can cancel it anytime they want and Sony couldn't do a thing about it.

They could cancel contracts once bought but will honor them

 

[menace-uk-]

They could cancel contracts once bought but will honor them

They could, but that would take legal action, right. That takes time and money.

 

[JinCA]

A couple of things here.

1. When they acquired Mojang they didn’t have gamepass and Xbox had a different roadmap and structure.

2. With GP and 2 large publishers acquired they have leverage with these bigger games. It’s actually the first game outside of a contract deal that they would be putting on another console since Minecraft.

So with that said Microsoft shouldn’t just hand COD over permanently while Sony is locking down 3rd party games and stopping games from coming to GP.

The deal will go through and MS will do what’s it wants with the IP.

MS locks down games too and the fact that people keep acting as if Sony are the only ones that do this makes no sense. MS does it, MS are the ones that started paying to keep games away from other platforms. In the PS2 era all 3 consoles had very different architectures and it wasn't easy to port from one console to the other so PS2 always took priority because it was always the one that had the highest chance of making money for the developer/publisher.

MS isn't handing COD over, the fact is Phil Spencer and the other execs are the ones who kept telling everyone that they had no plans to make the game exclusive, any expectation that they wouldn't was their creation and the fact that they were lying about that needs more attention. I personally couldn't care less, I've said that many times I just don't like people lying like that and getting almost no backlash from the games media. They all kiss his ass because they want to continue to have access to him and oh yeah he plays Destiny and Jim Ryan doesn't lol.

 

[JinCA]

They could cancel contracts once bought but will honor them

That's not true at all, they are legally obligated to fulfill the contract as long as Activision remains intact. The only way to cancel those contracts is dissolve Activision as a company and bring all of the IP etc into xbox game studios. That's part of the process of buying a company, once you enter a certain phase you are given access to all of the contractual obligations you will inherit, most deals have an assignment clause which means if the company changes owners the deal still must be honored, so at that point the "buyer" can decide if they still want to buy the company or not but just changing ownership doesn't do a thing. That's why it makes me laugh when Spencer acts like they are being good guys but fulfilling the contracts, they are legally obligated to. The guy is full of crap and knows how to manipulate his fanbase.

 

[Kvally]

MS locks down games too and the fact that people keep acting as if Sony are the only ones that do this makes no sense. MS does it, MS are the ones that started paying to keep games away from other platforms. In the PS2 era all 3 consoles had very different architectures and it wasn't easy to port from one console to the other so PS2 always took priority because it was always the one that had the highest chance of making money for the developer/publisher.

MS isn't handing COD over, the fact is Phil Spencer and the other execs are the ones who kept telling everyone that they had no plans to make the game exclusive, any expectation that they wouldn't was their creation and the fact that they were lying about that needs more attention. I personally couldn't care less, I've said that many times I just don't like people lying like that and getting almost no backlash from the games media. They all kiss his ass because they want to continue to have access to him and oh yeah he plays Destiny and Jim Ryan doesn't lol.

Sony started it with PS not MS. PS2 paid to keep games off of competing consoles.

Weird that you are stating that you don’t like others lying (Phil isn’t but we know Jim Ryan does all day) yet you are trying to pass off something that is not factual.

 

[Swede]

 

[Pureshooter]

That's not true at all, they are legally obligated to fulfill the contract as long as Activision remains intact. The only way to cancel those contracts is dissolve Activision as a company and bring all of the IP etc into xbox game studios. That's part of buying a company, you are given access to all of the contractual obligations you will inherit and then decide if you still want to buy the company or not but just changing ownership doesn't do a thing.

So if contracts are as transferrable and unbreakable as you say, all the more reason you would never enter into one in perpetuity.

 

[Swede]

That's not true at all, they are legally obligated to fulfill the contract as long as Activision remains intact. The only way to cancel those contracts is dissolve Activision as a company and bring all of the IP etc into xbox game studios. That's part of buying a company, you are given access to all of the contractual obligations you will inherit and then decide if you still want to buy the company or not but just changing ownership doesn't do a thing. That's why it makes me laugh when Spencer acts like they are being good guys but fulfilling the contracts, they are legally obligated to. The guy is full of crap and knows how to manipulate his fanbase.

f*** man, you really hate good guy Philip lol

 

[menace-uk-]

So if contracts are as transferrable and unbreakable as you say, all the more reason you would never enter into one in perpetuity.

But but....silly reason....Sony loves me.

 

[menace-uk-]

f*** man, you really hate good guy Philip lol

No, he just has no clue what he is talking about.

 

[DriedMangoes]

It doesn't even matter. Just using these numbers you see the Acti/Blizz deal only puts Xbox revenue at the same as Playstation revenue. Either way, all this talk of monopolies and what not is ridiculous.

Competition. Sony is afraid of it.

#2 and #5 is MS and Activision in terms of gaming revenue. Kind of crazy when this doesn't "matter".

Guess this is the only way to try to dethrone Sony right now.

 

[Swede]

#2 and #5 is MS and Activision in terms of gaming revenue. Kind of crazy when this doesn't "matter".

Guess this is the only way to try to dethrone Sony right now.

 

[lowdru2k]

Sony fans are afraid to see their brand fall out of first place. MS is the bad guy in all this.

 

[menace-uk-]

#2 and #5 is MS and Activision in terms of gaming revenue. Kind of crazy when this doesn't "matter".

Guess this is the only way to try to dethrone Sony right now.

That wasn't what I said doesn't matter.

It also isn't dethroning anybody.

So wrong twice.

 

[menace-uk-]

Sony fans are afraid to see their brand fall out of first place. MS is the bad guy in all this.

They wont though, that is the moronic thing.

 

[Kvally]

Top Public Video Game Companies | By Revenue | Newzoo

Newzoo's Top Video Game Companies ranking is updated every quarter. Features the top public video game companies by revenues.

newzoo.com

Top 10 gaming companies made $126bn revenue last year

The top 10 gaming companies made $126bn in revenue last year. That's according to a new report by Newzoo, shared by Ven…

www.eurogamer.net

Report: Top 10 companies made 65% of global games market in 2021

The top 10 public games companies account for 65% of the global market, according to the latest Global Games Market Rep…

www.gamesindustry.biz

Numbers everywhere

Oof!!!!

 

[Pureshooter]

I think the discrepancy in these numbers is the recognition of mobile. If you take mobile out of the picture Tencent and Activision/Blizzard both drop down substantially.

 

[Kvally]

I think the discrepancy in these numbers is the recognition of mobile. If you take mobile out of the picture Tencent and Activision/Blizzard both drop down substantially.

So take out things to fit an agenda in other words?

 

[Pureshooter]

So take out things to fit an agenda in other words?

Google Search: "What I want to be true."

 

[The Wolf King]

 

[The Wolf King]