Project Scorpio v3.0
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4K sets are basically all that's sold anymore, the problem for 4K blu ray is there isn't a very good selection of movies right now, I have a 4K blu ray player I got in December for under $250 and haven't even taken it out of the box yet lol.. Just look at this past holiday, the One S has UHD blu ray but the PS4 sold more units. The early sales likely had a lot of people trading in older model X1 units to "upgrade" to the smaller newer console as well. As time goes on UHD players are going to get cheaper and cheaper, there are already a few that are on the market for $300 or less and there will probably be more by the time Scorpio comes out.
Three months straight and it was a new piece of hardware which likely also had a lot original X1's traded in towards the newer model and those 3 (I think it was actually 4 months, not sure) were mostly during the summer when console sales are generally down anyway. PS4 sold more than X1 during the holiday period.
This isn't a sales thread so I'm not trying to derail it, I just don't think pricing Scorpio over $400 is a wise move no matter what the features are.
Factoring inflation the 360 launched for ($500) with PS3 right on the horizon. Scorpio will be the most powerful console for at least 2 years if not more. Think it'll be wise if it's powerful.
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As wise as it is powerful.
Price? $399...they spec according to price. Value? $899
I can't image it will be for every game, but there are numerous cases of better performance for BC games on the One, so there is a level of precedent. I would also expect games coming out from now till release to get a boost. Certainly all MS's First party games will as they are planning on Scorpio. One of the reasons I am still buying multiplats on the One S is the hope that they will receive some form of upgrade in future. Kinda like BF1 gets for the Pro.
No, just the display needs a processing chip to unpack the metadata. Any console out there today has the processing overhead to do Dolby Vision. It's not really that demanding. The Xbox S could easily do this, if they decided to add it.
Even some displays were able to do a firmware update that added Dolby Vision, since they had enough processing power already.
Depends on what is inside. If it's everything that has Ryzen and Vega then it's going to be $499.
If it is not then I am looking at $399.
Also depends on the type of HDD and size as well
If it is not then I am looking at $399.
Also depends on the type of HDD and size as well
Given that they announced the target for 4k last year, I would hope most major games since last E3 would get a bump. You know Horizon 3 and Gears 4 will.
It already is powerful based on the GPU alone. The 360 would have failed had it launched for $500, as it is it took a little while to really get going.
Well, if we want more than pretty shaders, then let's keep our fingers crossed for a better CPU. It would be pretty unbalanced with the Jaguar, and Phil has made the point about balance this time...
The device has to have the hardware built in.
Nothing can get the upgrade unless its there already from reading through the threads
on my TV(the only TV to get it that I am aware of)They say the TV had the hardware all along but Sony and Dolby didn't come to terms until it was announced this Jan @ CES.
No UHDBR player that doesn't say its getting it will get it as the hardware isn't there.
I wish it was that easy cause than I could just keep this Samsung UHDBR player.
No, the TV needs the hardware built in, not the player because there has to be decoding of the metadata on the receiving end. Why on earth would the player need anything more than the hardware that is already in a console? That makes absolutely no practical sense. A console can't process a simple video encode? I just can't see how that is possible.
In addition to the last thread and Dolby Vision, I just noticed 2 UHD Blu-ray players added support for Dolby Vision. They are LG and Oppo models. It's not really some impossible thing. Anything with HDMI 2.0 out and a bit of processing power should do it with no problem. It's the TV that needs decoding hardware!
https://www.hometheaterforum.com/lg-firmware-update-dolby-vision/
https://www.hometheaterforum.com/lg-firmware-update-dolby-vision/
They were made with support for Dolby Vision its future update was in the specifications.
The Samsung,Panasonic,XBOS and Phillips won't get such a upgrade.
Think you're misunderstanding. The 360 was $500 if you're equating today's money. $400 then is equal to $500 now. So it launched for what is $500 in today's money and did well. Scorpio can drop price in year two or three as well.
The X1S and Pro also upscale standard Blu ray discs. So I think that kind of minimizes the importance of having a 4K player.
But it was still ahead when Sony launched the PS4 slim which certainly shouldnt have happened.
IMO its a combination of UHDBD, back compat, slim and PS4s meagre holiday lineup.
The only reason it was barely ahead between November and December was the $199 PS4 and Pro launch.
Hey everybody, ok now predict why will it suck for some.
Educated guesses based on the past slams on every MS console please.
No changeable faceplates this time?
Too big, too small, too black too white, not a Playstation...
Educated guesses based on the past slams on every MS console please.
No changeable faceplates this time?
Too big, too small, too black too white, not a Playstation...
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